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#1 RedSea

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:33 PM

At this point it is beyond obvious that he just doesn't belong on the Wings roster. Despite logging PP time, he has only mustered 3 points in 25 games, a (-4) rating and a horrible 2.9% shooting percentage.

 

If having a right handed shot on the PP is so important while Alfie is hurt, why not use Eaves? He is more athletic than Samuelsson and has the same amount of goals (1) in 15 games and 3.3% shot.

 

I'm just frustrated that we have either high energy guys like Tootoo or skilled young guys like Jurco buried in GR. I'm not a coach or GM, but c'mon Mikel, do the right thing.



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:39 PM

To answer your question, No.

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:43 PM

Would Holland?
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:45 PM

Why would he ever surrender half a seasons pay? To just placate us fans is not a good enough reason.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:50 PM

Why would he ever surrender half a seasons pay? To just placate us fans is not a good enough reason.

 

Couldn't Holland offer him a a 1 year desk job for $1.5mil? ;)



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:52 PM

 

Couldn't Holland offer him a a 1 year desk job for $1.5mil? ;)

 

It's gonna have to been one big ass desk. Plus I think he already has an assigned chair in the press box.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:53 PM

There has to be some way to get rid of this guy. With all our injuries haven't we freed up enough cap space to be able to just buy him out and use the roster spot for someone else? 

 

 

Time is running out and Kenny is sitting on his hands. Then we'll get healthy and Jurco, Sheahan, Glendening and Eaves will be sent down while Sammy remains. 



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:56 PM

There has to be some way to get rid of this guy. With all our injuries haven't we freed up enough cap space to be able to just buy him out and use the roster spot for someone else? 

 

 

Time is running out and Kenny is sitting on his hands. Then we'll get healthy and Jurco, Sheahan, Glendening and Eaves will be sent down while Sammy remains. 

Can't buy him out until after the season and by then he'll be a free agent anyway. You can never call an injury fortunate but boy was the injury he had before the season timely for him; we couldn't buy him out which it saved him 3 mil.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:20 PM

Is there a team in Sweden that would want him?
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:31 PM

We aren't that lucky. He's going to milk every penny and completely suck at hockey at the same time. Best case scenario is somebody gets healthy maybe and he goes back to rotting in the press box.
 
 
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:33 PM

Samuelsson, Bertuzzi and Cleary are gone next year for SURE. Those three players are costing us 7 million. Man, we could sure use ONE player that would be worth 7 million right about now.



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:38 PM

Samuelsson, Bertuzzi and Cleary are gone next year for SURE. Those three players are costing us 7 million. Man, we could sure use ONE player that would be worth 7 million right about now.

 

I have this gut feeling that at least one of those 3 will be back, taking up a roster spot for one of the much more deserving Griffins. I hope I'm wrong.



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:41 PM

 

I have this gut feeling that at least one of those 3 will be back, taking up a roster spot for one of the much more deserving Griffins. I hope I'm wrong.

No way!! I'd bet everything I have that Bert, Cleary and Sammy have seen their last days, not only as Red Wings but probably in the NHL.



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:45 PM

I'm getting a genuinely bad feeling Cleary will be re-signed. The support for Cleary has been so over the top from everyone associated with the team, they all still view him as essential. Holland seemed ready to waive him In late November, but then all these injuries hit and the Cleary PR offensive began and now I'm not so sure he walks. Holland will have to be the one to put his foot down.

Ideally of the three, Bert will be brought back as I think he's been a good veteran presence with some skill.

But boy, Sammy sure has worn out his welcome. At least fans still like Cleary as a person. Sammy just went and pissed everyone off in and outside the organization.
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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:22 AM

No way!! I'd bet everything I have that Bert, Cleary and Sammy have seen their last days, not only as Red Wings but probably in the NHL.

 

Don't make that bet, Bert will be back.


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:29 AM

I'm expecting everyone back. These injuries are perfect justification for Holland's vision of the team. Load up on "veteran depth," don't cut any ties, keep the kids down, BAM! STANLEY CUP!

 

(Sammy won't be back. Bert might. Cleary, probably not, though I wouldn't rule him out. Of the three, I'd only be ok with Bert returning - and even him, I dunno.)


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:49 AM

I'm expecting everyone back. These injuries are perfect justification for Holland's vision of the team. Load up on "veteran depth," don't cut any ties, keep the kids down, BAM! STANLEY CUP!
 
(Sammy won't be back. Bert might. Cleary, probably not, though I wouldn't rule him out. Of the three, I'd only be ok with Bert returning - and even him, I dunno.)


I think Bert's been good I wouldn't mind having him back for another year at a low cap hit.

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:55 AM

I seem to be the only one who thinks this but I think Bertuzzi has been really bad...

 

He makes bonehead passes and takes bad penalties, and of course hes terribly slow. Doesn't do anything on defence and when he does he tends to take that penalty. 

 

On a positive note hes basically all we have when it comes to a net front presence, and hes decent when playing with Z and D together as he seems to be more confident


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 01:13 AM

Don't make that bet, Bert will be back.

no he won't
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Posted 17 January 2014 - 01:44 AM

I seem to be the only one who thinks this but I think Bertuzzi has been really bad...

 

He makes bonehead passes and takes bad penalties, and of course hes terribly slow. Doesn't do anything on defence and when he does he tends to take that penalty. 

 

On a positive note hes basically all we have when it comes to a net front presence, and hes decent when playing with Z and D together as he seems to be more confident

Tonight he made two nice set up passes. One in Sheahan's feet that probably should have been a goal







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