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#61 GMRwings1983

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:33 PM

 

Just because he's not a superstar doesn't mean that he couldn't improve the overall quality of our defense quite a bit. Erhoff in and of himself is not a guy worth going crazy over on an individual level like you would a superstar, but what he'd bring to the TEAM in filling out the D would be no small thing. We're not in a position to bring in an elite player either via trade or free agency at this point. We need to make the best of the situation and bring in guys that can help get this team going in the right direction towards being a contender again. Then maybe somewhere down the line we might be able to more reasonably get our hopes up about bringing in top talent. Right now, we just need solid guys to round out a defense that still has some glaring holes in it.

 

Yeah, I guess he would improve on guys like Lashoff and Kindl (so would anyone).  But it's not a signing that will wake up the fanbase that's currently becoming lethargic and used to mediocrity.  


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:37 PM

Ericsson has a no trade contract doesn't he? I'd love to see him traded along with Kindl and Franzen to try and get a forward while getting Ehrhoff and Niskanen. Not gonna happen though.

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:01 PM

Ericsson has a no trade contract doesn't he? I'd love to see him traded along with Kindl and Franzen to try and get a forward while getting Ehrhoff and Niskanen. Not gonna happen though.

 

I don't think we should trade away Ericsson. Guy has size and is solid and stable on the back end. He's got a decent enough salary, and same goes for Franzen. Don't want to turn this into another Franzen bashing thread, but we're not going to replace his size and production for that kind of cap number. Not going to happen. 

 

I don't think we'll have room for both Niskanen and Ehrhoff. We'll hopefully get one though. Forwards aren't' the priority now on this team, D is. And I think we'll have an outside shot at Iginla, so may as well trade Kindl for a pick or two if we can.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:03 PM

Kronwall  Ericsson

Ehrhoff  DeKeyser

Smith  Marchenko


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:06 PM

Ericsson has a no trade contract doesn't he? I'd love to see him traded along with Kindl and Franzen to try and get a forward while getting Ehrhoff and Niskanen. Not gonna happen though.

 

If we do end up with Erhoff and Niskanen, that's two less spots for our defensive prospect pool to take, so in addition to Kindl and Lashoff (who have pretty low trade value), Marchenko, Sproul, Ouellet all become movable assets, because there won't be any room in Detroit.  Sproul I think we need to hold onto, because of his offensive capability and he shoots right, but I don't know how he would break into the lineup if Erhoff and Niskanen are here.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:08 PM

 
I don't think we should trade away Ericsson. Guy has size and is solid and stable on the back end. He's got a decent enough salary, and same goes for Franzen. Don't want to turn this into another Franzen bashing thread, but we're not going to replace his size and production for that kind of cap number. Not going to happen. 
 
I don't think we'll have room for both Niskanen and Ehrhoff. We'll hopefully get one though. Forwards aren't' the priority now on this team, D is. And I think we'll have an outside shot at Iginla, so may as well trade Kindl for a pick or two if we can.



Ericsson has a size but he's not using it... same goes with Franzen

 
If we do end up with Erhoff and Niskanen, that's two less spots for our defensive prospect pool to take, so in addition to Kindl and Lashoff (who have pretty low trade value), Marchenko, Sproul, Ouellet all become movable assets, because there won't be any room in Detroit.  Sproul I think we need to hold onto, because of his offensive capability and he shoots right, but I don't know how he would break into the lineup if Erhoff and Niskanen are here.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:11 PM

Helene st James saying the wings don't need erhoff. Sorry but she is dead wrong on that one

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:16 PM

Wings don't need a second pair D. They have 3 of them. I don't see Ehrhoff as a significant upgrade over Smith, Dekeyser, or Ericsson.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:18 PM

Yea either one of Niskanen or Ehrhoff will be just fine, but not both. Logistically for cap room, and also for clogging up the way for our D guys who are nearly ready. If it were me I'd actually be tempted just to stick both Ouellet and Sproul on the 3rd pairing to start the year. 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:20 PM

Dear Helene,
Please take a note that our dear Kenny has already regret couple os FA signings such as: Q, Carlo, Sammy, Williams, Tootoo... I don't think that Ehrhoff belongs to the same category
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:36 PM

We're not getting Ehrhoff and Niskanen. There's absolutely, positively, unequivocally no chance that happens. We'll be lucky to get one of them.

 

I don't mind Ericsson. He's a good top-four shutdown defenseman. He's one of our better PKers and shot-blockers. He's a huge body who's shown he can handle the toughest of assignments. He has good chemistry with Kronwall. I don't really care that he doesn't throw monster hits every shift. Having said all that, I'd be interested to know his trade value. Certainly there's never a shortage of GMs looking to add a veteran top-four shutdown defenseman with Ericsson's frame. Show the Leafs and Oilers the clip of him obliterating Bickell and talk up his GRIT and CHARACTER and INTANGIBLES.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:44 PM

We're not getting Ehrhoff and Niskanen. There's absolutely, positively, unequivocally no chance that happens. We'll be lucky to get one of them.
 
I don't mind Ericsson. He's a good top-four shutdown defenseman. He's one of our better PKers and shot-blockers. He's a huge body who's shown he can handle the toughest of assignments. He has good chemistry with Kronwall. I don't really care that he doesn't throw monster hits every shift. Having said all that, I'd be interested to know his trade value. Certainly there's never a shortage of GMs looking to add a veteran top-four shutdown defenseman with Ericsson's frame. Show the Leafs and Oilers the clip of him obliterating Bickell and talk up his GRIT and CHARACTER and INTANGIBLES.


I've said it before and I'll say it again....if Ericsson knew how to use his size, he would be a top ten defensemen in the league. He shows flashes but he played his whole life at forward so he doesn't quite get that part of being a defenseman

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:56 PM

Wings don't need a second pair D. They have 3 of them. I don't see Ehrhoff as a significant upgrade over Smith, Dekeyser, or Ericsson.

 

Oh, please. The Wings could absolutely use a very good second-pairing defenseman. DeKeyser-Smith is not good enough, especially given the injury woes every year. Ehrhoff can hold his own on a top pairing, log huge minutes, handle the toughest assignments, run an effective power play, and put up points, all on a mercilessly bad Sabres team. He's an established high-end defenseman, and not because of ludicrous scoring prowess or "truculence" or whatever. He's just a solid, experienced, top-four two-way defenseman. We don't need a savior, we just need a legtimate top four. If he'd only cost us money, I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want him on our thin, offensively-challenged blue line.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:04 PM

I don't see Ehrhoff as a significant upgrade over Smith, Dekeyser, or Ericsson.

 

those 3 haver career highs of 19, 23, and 15 points.

 

but yeah, who needs a defensman who has put up 50 points, can run an effective PP and log lots of tough minutes, right?

 

are you for real?

 

i mean really?


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:10 PM

A lot of understandable excitment here nice but keep in mind him being UFA does also mean, he can choose a team to his liking. There will be a lot of teams biding for his services so the Wings will have to make him a great offer. Something like 6 mill for 4 years should get the job done.

 

The best thing is if Niskanen signs with Minny -- which I think will happen -- there is another great UFA target.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:15 PM

Dear Helene,
Please take a note that our dear Kenny has already regret couple os FA signings such as: Q, Carlo, Sammy, Williams, Tootoo... I don't think that Ehrhoff belongs to the same category

 

I like Ehrhoff but I don't think he fits in as well as either Niskanen, Myers or Boyle all of whom are right handed. Although my feelings toward adding another lefty would change if we could offload a lefty or 2. Especially if we could offload them in a package for someone like Myers or another suitable middle pairing right hander.

 

I do like Ehrhoff better than any of the other lefties considered as at least he plays on the right side more often than not.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:39 PM

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but does anyone else find it funny that Buffalo decided to buy him out instead of trading him....?

 

They could have traded him for ANYTHING and gotten ANYTHING in return (and the Red Wings were interested so that route was available. Other teams were probably interested as well).

 

But, no, they bought him out and get nothing back.....



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:40 PM

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but does anyone else find it funny that Buffalo decided to buy him out instead of trading him....?
 
They could have traded him for ANYTHING and gotten ANYTHING in return (and the Red Wings were interested so that route was available. Other teams were probably interested as well).
 
But, no, they bought him out and get nothing back.....


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 04:55 PM

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but does anyone else find it funny that Buffalo decided to buy him out instead of trading him....?

 

They could have traded him for ANYTHING and gotten ANYTHING in return (and the Red Wings were interested so that route was available. Other teams were probably interested as well).

 

But, no, they bought him out and get nothing back.....

 

As much as people like to complain about Franzen's recapture #'s Ehrhoffs were way worse.

 

If he retired instead of playing the last year of his contract it would cost his new team nothing but the Sabres would lose a whopping 10 Million from their cap.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 04:57 PM

Ehrhoff's my boy!!!   ...and now we don't even have to trade for him??!!  YESSSSSSSSS!


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