marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted December 31, 2014 Game 2-2, that BS goal for Canada makes it 3-2. If that goal never counted. U.S would be up 3-2 and your 2 empty net goals never happen either because we wouldn't of pulled our goalie. But good try buddy, you won because the game is in Canada LOL Ahh, so the game would have played out exactly the same had the goal not counted? Please. Enough with the excuses. The better team won. If the US put up a better effort instead of being outshot 10-2 at one point in the 3rd, they wouldn't have ended up in that situation to begin with. But please, continue to blame bad calls on being completely outplayed when down 2-1. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted December 31, 2014 Ahh, so the game would have played out exactly the same had the goal not counted? Please. Enough with the excuses. The better team won. If the US put up a better effort instead of being outshot 10-2 at one point in the 3rd, they wouldn't have ended up in that situation to begin with. But please, continue to blame bad calls on being completely outplayed when down 2-1. What's funny is people in Canada even agree that was a bad call. U.S didn't play there best besides Larkin of course. We will get you next game even though, hopefully there isn't gong show of calls everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) What's funny is people in Canada even agree that was a bad call. U.S didn't play there best besides Larkin of course. We will get you next game even though, hopefully there isn't gong show of calls everywhere. I not once said it was a good call. I said it was iffy at best. Whether it counted or not would not have surprised me. And I hope they do meet again. It will be good hockey if they do. At least then Canada can win without a controversial goal so you will have to find excuses elsewhere. It was a meaningless round robin game. Russia has been playing like s***. Should be an easy Quarter finals win for you guys. Edit: Also, the thing I am most excited about in this tournament is how good Larkin and Homer 2 have been. Edited December 31, 2014 by marcaractac 2 DatsyukianDekes and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted December 31, 2014 So… Canada is up 3-1 late in regulation. Larkin scores to bring his team within one. Canada scores an empty net goal off a couple DeAngelo screw-ups. Dagger in the heart. Horrribly deflating. Game is over. Larkin scores again to bring his team within one again. Canada scores another empty net goal off another terrible turnover made by another US defenseman. Horribly deflating. Game is over. Larkin, if I’m not mistaken, didn’t see the ice after his second goal. Granted, there were only 45 seconds left, but, I mean, c’mon. He’s singlehandedly given your team a fighting chance, twice, in the span of a few minutes. He was pumped as hell. Give him the chance to net a legendary hat trick. Am I alone in feeling this way? 2 marcaractac and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) What's funny is people in Canada even agree that was a bad call. U.S didn't play there best besides Larkin of course. We will get you next game even though, hopefully there isn't gong show of calls everywhere. I was at a bar and every Canadian said that goal wasn't a goal and shouldn't count, but it did. I highly doubt you will find another Canadian that disagrees with you. However saying US didn't play their best, well Canada didn't either then I guess? So… Canada is up 3-1 late in regulation. Larkin scores to bring his team within one. Canada scores an empty net goal off a couple DeAngelo screw-ups. Dagger in the heart. Horrribly deflating. Game is over. Larkin scores again to bring his team within one again. Canada scores another empty net goal off another terrible turnover made by another US defenseman. Horribly deflating. Game is over. Larkin, if I’m not mistaken, didn’t see the ice after his second goal. Granted, there were only 45 seconds left, but, I mean, c’mon. He’s singlehandedly given your team a fighting chance, twice, in the span of a few minutes. He was pumped as hell. Give him the chance to net a legendary hat trick. Am I alone in feeling this way? No you are not alone. I was wondering the same thing and most Canadians were happy that he wasn't on the ice. Eichel looked to be extremely selfish out there and seemed like he was just trying to be a hero instead of worrying about tying the game. Edited December 31, 2014 by darkmanx 2 krsmith17 and marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 I was at a bar and every Canadian said that goal wasn't a goal and shouldn't count, but it did. I highly doubt you will find another Canadian that disagrees with you. However saying US didn't play their best, well Canada didn't either then I guess? No you are not alone. I was wondering the same thing and most Canadians were happy that he wasn't on the ice. Eichel looked to be extremely selfish out there and seemed like he was just trying to be a hero instead of worrying about tying the game. What I mean by US not playing there best is they looked very nervous, hence why the D made brutal turnovers that lead to the empty nets. I think it's time to say Larkin is better then Eichel right now and I wonder if Eichel is realizing that? I don't know why you would take Larkin off the ice, doesn't make sense. 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 About the game - I was only able to catch the third period. Canada looked like classic Wings puck-possession hockey, US looked like...modern-day Wings hockey. Canada was incredibly dominant. They flat-out owned the puck. It belonged to them. Larkin tho. Holy s***. This is his team; Eichel has not wowed me. 2 marcaractac and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 What I mean by US not playing there best is they looked very nervous, hence why the D made brutal turnovers that lead to the empty nets. I think it's time to say Larkin is better then Eichel right now and I wonder if Eichel is realizing that? I don't know why you would take Larkin off the ice, doesn't make sense. Fair enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 I think it's time to say Larkin is better then Eichel right now and I wonder if Eichel is realizing that? I don't know why you would take Larkin off the ice, doesn't make sense. I wouldn't say Larkin's the better player, but certainly he's been the team's MVP. I've said it before - I think there's a bit of Jonathan Toews in him. He won't be as good as Toews, but he's that kind of player. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 I wouldn't say Larkin's the better player, but certainly he's been the team's MVP. I've said it before - I think there's a bit of Jonathan Toews in him. He won't be as good as Toews, but he's that kind of player. Yay intangibles! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Yay intangibles! HE NOES WUT IT TAKES 2 WIN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 I actually don't think the call on that goal was the wrong one. The puck entered the crease before Lazar so there is no crease violation, It was not kicked it and didn't go in off his hand. The only possible reason to disallow the goal would be goalie interference and that isn't reviewable. Even if it was Demko wasn't prevented from stopping the puck, when Lazar contacted him the puck was already bouncing off him and into the net. Also the idea that this game would have been different in the US, or any other country is ridiculous. The referee's were not canadian, all 4 officials were European. Canada was the better team in tonight's game by a wide margin, but even so they just barely held on. I fully expect the US to win this tournament beating Canada in a rematch at the final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Was anyone else extremely unimpressed with McDavid? He essentially whiffed on 2 golden back-door opportunities and ran around hot headed the whole game (perks of wearing the cage I guess). He's obviously going to be a great player but all this "next crosby" bulls*** seems to be just that. If you ask me, Eichel seems to be the more NHL ready of the 2. He knows how to control the play and his passing ability is phenomenal. Of course this is all based off of a tiny sample size and I wont pretend to be any sort of expert. What does everyone else think? Also, can we all agree that this is the worst team Russia has iced in years? Edited January 1, 2015 by wingsfan4795 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Was anyone else extremely unimpressed with McDavid? He essentially whiffed on 2 golden back-door opportunities and ran around hot headed the whole game (perks of wearing the cage I guess). He's obviously going to be a great player but all this "next crosby" bulls*** seems to be just that. If you ask me, Eichel seems to be the more NHL ready of the 2. He knows how to control the play and his passing ability is phenomenal. Of course this is all based off of a tiny sample size and I wont pretend to be any sort of expert. What does everyone else think? Also, can we all agree that this is the worst team Russia has iced in years? Larkin baby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Was anyone else extremely unimpressed with McDavid? He essentially whiffed on 2 golden back-door opportunities and ran around hot headed the whole game (perks of wearing the cage I guess). He's obviously going to be a great player but all this "next crosby" bulls*** seems to be just that. If you ask me, Eichel seems to be the more NHL ready of the 2. He knows how to control the play and his passing ability is phenomenal. Of course this is all based off of a tiny sample size and I wont pretend to be any sort of expert. What does everyone else think? Also, can we all agree that this is the worst team Russia has iced in years? Keep in mind McDavid is playing his first hockey in weeks and possibly still hasn't fully recovered from his broken hand. I've seen him play a few times this year in the OHL and he's every bit as good as most claim him to be (though definitely not Crosby level good). I haven't seen as much of Eichel but you can certainly see flashes of his exceptional talent as well. Both players have been overshadowed by players on their own team this WJHC's though, Larkin for the USA, and Max Domi for Canada. 2 PavelValerievichDatsyuk and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) McDavid is 1 or 2 younger than the other players and he hasn't played hockey for a few weeks because of his injury. Give the kid time he has already shown flashes of brilliance this kid is special, the Oilers have a future generational player in him soon... I think people are often forgetting on how crazy good Crosby was at that age hence to comparisons to Gretzky.. Eichel is the same thing, sometimes they just make you wow and sometimes I'm thinking how can miss that open net ? There is no doubt that both will be exceptional players and they are going to drastically shorten the rebuild of whatever team they end up playing for. As good as Domi has looked I really hate his antics and celebrations score the damn goal and act like you've done it before not like a monkey. If he keeps that stuff up in the NHL kid better learn how to develop some fighting skills like his Dad. Larkin has looked absolutely great so far and Demko has flashes of Gibson goaltending. Most surprising team so far has to be Denmark Edited January 1, 2015 by frankgrimes 1 TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 As good as Domi has looked I really hate his antics and celebrations score the damn goal and act like you've done it before I actually agree with this. Same can be said about a lot of the Canadian kids. 1 TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Fair and sportsmanlike isn't exactly canadian strong suits 1 TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Was anyone else extremely unimpressed with McDavid? He essentially whiffed on 2 golden back-door opportunities and ran around hot headed the whole game (perks of wearing the cage I guess). He's obviously going to be a great player but all this "next crosby" bulls*** seems to be just that. If you ask me, Eichel seems to be the more NHL ready of the 2. He knows how to control the play and his passing ability is phenomenal. Of course this is all based off of a tiny sample size and I wont pretend to be any sort of expert. What does everyone else think? Also, can we all agree that this is the worst team Russia has iced in years? He has barely any hockey under his belt after being out a long time with an injury. He'll be fine. He has been getting better each game I thought. I actually agree with this. Same can be said about a lot of the Canadian kids. You said it yourself. Kids. These are teenagers playing on home ice on the biggest stage of their young careers. I think it is kind of silly to give them s*** over them being excited scoring goals in front of about 20k people cheering for them for the first tournament in their lives. If this were in the States, the American players would be doing the exact same thing. So when people say things like "act like you've done it before". The thing is, on this stage, they haven't done it before. 2 krsmith17 and jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) You said it yourself. Kids. These are teenagers playing on home ice on the biggest stage of their young careers. I think it is kind of silly to give them s*** over them being excited scoring goals in front of about 20k people cheering for them for the first tournament in their lives. If this were in the States, the American players would be doing the exact same thing. So when people say things like "act like you've done it before". The thing is, on this stage, they haven't done it before. Kids or not, I personally like when players celebrate after goals. Espeically Ovi, even if he doesn't score. I see it as if the players celebrate there into it and most times gets the fans really into it also. Dangle, Snipe, Celly. BUT if you're up 3 or 4 goals now, there is no need to celly. Edited January 1, 2015 by HadThomasVokounOnFortSt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Kids or not, I personally like when players celebrate after goals. Espeically Ovi, even if he doesn't score. I see it as if the players celebrate there into it and most times gets the fans really into it also. Dangle, Snipe, Celly. BUT if you're up 3 or 4 goals now, there is no need to celly. In the end, they're kids. It is silly to give them s*** over celebrating. I'm 29, and if I were to score a goal in front of that many peopel going savage cheering celebrating would get the best of me as well. I'd be pumped as f***. It would be different if playing in front of 20K people all season long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 In the end, they're kids. It is silly to give them s*** over celebrating. I'm 29, and if I were to score a goal in front of that many peopel going savage cheering celebrating would get the best of me as well. I'd be pumped as f***. It would be different if playing in front of 20K people all season long. I think playing infront of such a huge crowd would at first make me nervous as hell (I'm an introverted guy) and if I would score I'd try to keep it lowkey (Pasha, Crosby, Backeslike) or at least trying not to taunt the other bench like Lazar and Domi did keep your stupid tongue in your mouth ... I mean yeah, they've played against a hated rival but it wasn't even the medal round can you imagine the celebrations if Canada wins gold ? Last season I was a huge fan of the Blues celebrating, they didn't even do the high-five with the bench thats classy and something I'd like to see at the WJC too. I mean we don't want hockey to turn into an over the top celebration gongshow like the NBA, NFL and soccer Right now they are kids and they hopefully learn but the NHL already has a bunch of very cocky, arrogant and entitled players no reason to add to that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 I think playing infront of such a huge crowd would at first make me nervous as hell (I'm an introverted guy) and if I would score I'd try to keep it lowkey (Pasha, Crosby, Backeslike) or at least trying not to taunt the other bench like Lazar and Domi did keep your stupid tongue in your mouth ... I mean yeah, they've played against a hated rival but it wasn't even the medal round can you imagine the celebrations if Canada wins gold ? Last season I was a huge fan of the Blues celebrating, they didn't even do the high-five with the bench thats classy and something I'd like to see at the WJC too. I mean we don't want hockey to turn into an over the top celebration gongshow like the NBA, NFL and soccer Right now they are kids and they hopefully learn but the NHL already has a bunch of very cocky, arrogant and entitled players no reason to add to that. These kids will learn. I mean sure, a couple of them may never learn, but for the time being they are enjoying the moment. It's a special thing representing your country on home ice. They also don't have veterans around them to tell them to keep it down like they will once they eventually go pro. Regardless of what country, I will never fault kids for being pumped up in this tournament every year. If they are scoring their 20th of the season at some point in the NHL and celebrating like mad, I'd probably roll my eyes at that point as well. But for now, they are just enjoying their moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted January 2, 2015 That's a good point, veterans for sure will tell them to turn it down. Also something I've noticed us that McDavid is really uncomfortable with all the hype and attention, kid isn't even 18, just got back from an injury and the cameras are in his face all the time. Let him enjoy the tournament instead. 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted January 2, 2015 That's a good point, veterans for sure will tell them to turn it down. Also something I've noticed us that McDavid is really uncomfortable with all the hype and attention, kid isn't even 18, just got back from an injury and the cameras are in his face all the time. Let him enjoy the tournament instead. Agreed. So unfair all the pressure being put on him when he has only just come back from being out for weeks. Must be rough to have that much on your shoulders at his age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites