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Carcillo speaks out on Montador's death and mental health issues

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Thats sad as hell.

I think I like Dan carcillo now.

Well, I don't know that I like Dan Carcillo, but it does help to be reminded that these guys are actual human beings once in a while.

The league really needs to figure out a serious approach to reducing head injuries. I think the issue has reached critical mass. At this point it's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". So why continue to pussyfoot around it?

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Well, I don't that I like Dan Carcillo, but it does help to be reminded that these guys are actual human beings once in a while.

The league really needs to figure out a serious approach to reducing head injuries. I think the issue has reached critical mass. At this point it's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". So why continue to pussyfoot around it?

I think that's why I like him now.

I can dislike heartless hockey players, its a lot harder when you see him in a vulnerable place talking about losing a loved one.

Yeah.

A human dying kinda makes you wonder why they don't have a plan in place...

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Yikes indeed. It's heartbreaking to watch and read and simply mindboggeling how an orgianisation like the NHL or the Franchises with all their specialists and money do so little to care for their players after they left the rink. Money is certainly not a problem for those players, but there are other things the league could provide.

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Honestly, all the league would have to do to take this seriously is stop penalizing the result of things like hits and start penalizing attempts to hit the head consistently. Fighting is another issue, tough.

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As a recipient of 4 concussions I sympathize with these players. It absolutely takes a toll on you mentally when you cannot do anything. Sitting in a dark room with no sunlight and barely any noise was draining. Without my family and oddly enough my pet cat, I'm not sure how I would have survived. That's not to mention the mental anguish it takes when you think you're "healthy" again. You aren't. Sleeping,eating, not to mention training was miserable. I feel sorry for anyone dealing with head issues that doesn't have access to the help they need.

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Honestly, all the league would have to do to take this seriously is stop penalizing the result of things like hits and start penalizing attempts to hit the head consistently. Fighting is another issue, tough.

I agree about the attempts. Injury should certainly factor in to the length of punishment but right now it plays way too big of a rule. If a guy is luckily enough not to get concussed (or if the symptoms of that concussion have not manifested themselves yet), that doesn't make the play that caused it less dangerous.

It's why I think elbows and attempted elbows to the head should be punished severely. That's not a hockey play gone bad. It's a deliberate attempt at a headshot.

I'm also surprised that the NHL doesn't have a more established support system for former hockey players. Most of these guys didn't go to college and even lived away from home as teenagers so they could play hockey. It's been the basis of their entire life. Whether you leave the game as a 27 year-old retiring due to concussions or a relatively healthy 40 year-old who just won the Stanley Cup, it has to be a massive adjustment.

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Hate the guy in the ice but this goes to show you that most hockey players are just great persons of the ice. Man trying to play after receiving such news is mental toughness kudos Carcillo.

Pro leagues really need to do a better job in preparing these guys for the life after hockey.

Ask them to coach some minor leagues, get into GM stuff, become a player agent, analyst, inside..don'tforget them because they are retired.

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Hate the guy in the ice but this goes to show you that most hockey players are just great persons of the ice. Man trying to play after receiving such news is mental toughness kudos Carcillo. Pro leagues really need to do a better job in preparing these guys for the life after hockey. Ask them to coach some minor leagues, get into GM stuff, become a player agent, analyst, inside..don'tforget them because they are retired.

Not saying this isn't a good idea, but I highly doubt there are enough positions to accommodate everyone.

Montador never went to college and was a journeyman who floated from team to team. Eventually he ended up playing out his career in the AHL and KHL at an early age. Aside from an early bust type player, I'm sure he was dead last on every organizations choice for a job.

A support system could be great, but I just can't see the PA winning one (If that's even in the PA's agenda).

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Another example of a decent guy, but one you hate on the ice. I've said it a few times before, but there are very few players in the league that I truly see as complete...you know whats....the first that comes to mind is Lucic.

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Yikes indeed. It's heartbreaking to watch and read and simply mindboggeling how an orgianisation like the NHL or the Franchises with all their specialists and money do so little to care for their players after they left the rink. Money is certainly not a problem for those players, but there are other things the league could provide.

I wouldn't be so sure that money isn't a problem. Those lower-level players don't make near as much as others, and much of that money goes to agents and taxes. If you really break it down and consider how many years they actually end up playing, there's not near as much money as it may appear to us when we see just the raw contract numbers. On top of that, their earning potential once they're outside the game decreases immensely. If you're smart, you can set yourself up pretty well, but unfortunately, a lot of these guys aren't so smart when it comes to matters of money.

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I guess I have mixed feelings on this. While it's impossible not to feel sympathy for anyone going through depression, mental illness, concussion issues an what not, I'm not so sure it's just a "hockey" thing.

Just looking at today's headlines, there's the talk of the high suicide rates among former child stars, those that are transgendered, military veterans and that's only the beginning.

I know during the during the depths of the recent recession, it was hard to find anyone who wasn't experiencing the loss of a job, a change in lifestyle, failed investments, upside down mortgage, etc. Most didn't have any professional support system or financial assistance. Some dealt with it really well and some didn't. Not unlike former NHL players.

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Honestly, all the league would have to do to take this seriously is stop penalizing the result of things like hits and start penalizing attempts to hit the head consistently. Fighting is another issue, tough.

Amen....the NHL has shown lip service rather than leadership on this one...

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This is how emergency personnel, military, etc go through, as well with PTSD.

It's almost as if you sacrifice everything you have and there's no appreciation at the end of it.

As much as everyone hates Carcillo as a hockey player, you can't deny his taking responsibility now for future players.

It's commendable. Great job Carcillo, if you ever read this.

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Wonder if this is separate, or is the attorney joining in with other former

NHL'ers who are suing the league?

I'm willing to bet this is separate.

IF* Its the first confirmed case of cte from the NHL, this will either be separate, it the beginning of a whole new one.

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I'm willing to bet this is separate.

Its the first confirmed case of cte from the NHL, this will either be separate, it the beginning of a whole new one.

Bob Probert's wife had donated his brain, and found cte.

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