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Business Idea:

Create more and smaller divisions. Play teams in ones own division a lot. Create better more heated rivalries.

Western Hockey Conference

WHC North ----- The Pacific NW teams
Edmonton
Calgary
Vancouver
Seattle

WHC West ----- The California Boys
San Jose
Los Angeles
Anaheim
Las Vegas

WHC South ----- The Southerners
Arizona
Dallas
Florida
Tampa Bay

WHC East ----- The Central teams
Winnipeg
Colorado
St. Louis
Minnesota

Eastern Hockey Conference

EHC North ----- Great rivalries + Ottawa
Montreal
Ottawa
Toronto
Boston

EHC West ----- Keep Wings and Hawks in the same division
Detroit
Chicago
Columbus
Nashville

EHC South ----- Battle for Pennsylvania
Pittsburgh
Philadelphia
Washington
Carolina

EHC East ----- The New York boys
New Jersey
New York Rangers
New York Islanders
Buffalo

Each division produces two teams for the playoffs, no wild cards. Playoff seeding identical to how it is now. Regular season is 82 games. 16 games against opposing conference teams. 24 games against inner conference teams from outside your division. Remaining 42 games are played inter-division.

So Detroit for example would play every team in the Western Conference once a year. Then they would play teams from Eastern Conference North, South, and East twice a year. Then they would play Chicago, Nashville, and Columbus each 14 times in a season. So literally half your schedule is 3 opposing teams.

This years playoffs would look like this right now if it was scored the same:

West:
Calgary
Edmonton
Colorado
St. Louis
Los Angeles
Las Vegas
Florida
Tampa Bay

East:
Toronto
Boston
Pittsburgh
Carolina
New York Rangers
New York Islanders
Nashville
Columbus

Big teams who missed due to strong division: Washington
Crap teams that luck in because of weak division: Islanders and Columbus

It would inter-divisional play uber important for the playoffs and that coupled with meeting those teams 14 times a year each means big nasty rivalries.

 

 

Edited by bIueadams

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In the past, I have proposed the idea of 4 conferences with 2 divisions each:

Canada Conference, East Division:

Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Boston

Canada Conference, West Division:

Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver

Western Conference, Pacific Division:

Seattle, LA, San Jose, Anaheim

Western Conference, Southwest Division:

Arizona, Vegas, Colorado, Dallas

Central Conference, Midwest Division:

St Louis, Minnesota, Chicago, Nashville

Central Conference, Northeast Division:

Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Buffalo

Eastern Conference, Atlantic Division:

Philadelphia, NY Rangers, NY Islanders, NJ

Eastern Conference, Southeast Division:

Tampa, Florida, Carolina, Washington

Regular Season: 2 games (1 home, 1 away) against each team in the other conferences= 48 games. 4 games (2 home, 2 away) against each team in the other division within your conference= 16 games. 6 games (3 home, 3 away) against each team in your own division= 18 games. 48+16+18=82 regular season games.

Playoffs: The top 2 teams in each division play each other based on regular season record to determine 8 overall division winners. The 2 division winners within each conference play each other to determine the conference winners. The 4 Conference winners are then seeded by regular season records: 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3. Winners then play for SC.

You're basically gifting a Canadian franchise a spot in the final 4. Maybe they will do something with it.

Edited by Neomaxizoomdweebie

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7 hours ago, marcaractac said:

Last season quickly made me realize too many games against the same few teams suuuccckkkkksss. 42 games vs 3-4 teams is too much I think. A home and home vs opposing conference is good. But the split between division and conference rivals needs to shrink some. 

At least in my model you could double the amount of games played against out of conference teams to x32. Therefore you play every team in the league twice per season. Then you play 2 inter divisional teams 9 times, with one team u only play 8 times. Maybe that's more agreeable. I like the model because it makes divisional games super important and possibly heated. 

7 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

In the past, I have proposed the idea of 4 conferences with 2 divisions each:

Canada Conference, East Division:

Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Boston

Canada Conference, West Division:

Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver

Western Conference, Pacific Division:

Seattle, LA, San Jose, Anaheim

Western Conference, Southwest Division:

Arizona, Vegas, Colorado, Dallas

Central Conference, Midwest Division:

St Louis, Minnesota, Chicago, Nashville

Central Conference, Northeast Division:

Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Buffalo

Eastern Conference, Atlantic Division:

Philadelphia, NY Rangers, NY Islanders, NJ

Eastern Conference, Southeast Division:

Tampa, Florida, Carolina, Washington

Regular Season: 2 games (1 home, 1 away) against each team in the other conferences= 48 games. 4 games (2 home, 2 away) against each team in the other division within your conference= 16 games. 6 games (3 home, 3 away) against each team in your own division= 18 games. 48+16+18=82 regular season games.

Playoffs: The top 2 teams in each division play each other based on regular season record to determine 8 overall division winners. The 2 division winners within each conference play each other to determine the conference winners. The 4 Conference winners are then seeded by regular season records: 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3. Winners then play for SC.

You're basically gifting a Canadian franchise a spot in the final 4. Maybe they will do something with it.

I don't hate your division splits. I just don't see the need to split the league over national lines. That's covid reactionary BS. 

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Keep the same conferences and divisions.

Home and home versus opposite conference: 32 games

2 home & 2 away versus division rivals: 28 games

Home and home vs other division in conference plus extra 3 home and 3 away games against 6 of the 8 other division teams. 

Division winner takes top 2 seeds in each conference, 3rd-8th decided by conference standings. Highest seed vs lowest seed the entire way through the playoff rounds.

Go back to East versus West for the All-Star game. The winner takes home-ice advantage for Stanley Cup Finals. Make that game mean something and it might actually be entertaining.  

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15 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

In the past, I have proposed the idea of 4 conferences with 2 divisions each:

Canada Conference, East Division:

Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Boston

Canada Conference, West Division:

Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver

Western Conference, Pacific Division:

Seattle, LA, San Jose, Anaheim

Western Conference, Southwest Division:

Arizona, Vegas, Colorado, Dallas

Central Conference, Midwest Division:

St Louis, Minnesota, Chicago, Nashville

Central Conference, Northeast Division:

Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Buffalo

Eastern Conference, Atlantic Division:

Philadelphia, NY Rangers, NY Islanders, NJ

Eastern Conference, Southeast Division:

Tampa, Florida, Carolina, Washington

Regular Season: 2 games (1 home, 1 away) against each team in the other conferences= 48 games. 4 games (2 home, 2 away) against each team in the other division within your conference= 16 games. 6 games (3 home, 3 away) against each team in your own division= 18 games. 48+16+18=82 regular season games.

Playoffs: The top 2 teams in each division play each other based on regular season record to determine 8 overall division winners. The 2 division winners within each conference play each other to determine the conference winners. The 4 Conference winners are then seeded by regular season records: 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3. Winners then play for SC.

You're basically gifting a Canadian franchise a spot in the final 4. Maybe they will do something with it.

yup.  one change.  2 conferences, 4 divisions each.  mimic the nfl.  

 

American Hockey Conference, Canadian Hockey Conference.

 

AHC West: LA, Anaheim, SJ, Sea

CHC West: Van, Edm, Cgy, Winn

AHC East: Pitts, Phi, Bos, Wash

CHC East: TO, Ott, Mtl, Buf

AHC North: StL, Co, Vegas, AZ

CHC North: Det, CBJ, Minn, Chi

AHC South: Flo, TB Nsh, Car

CHC South: Wsh, NJ, NYR, NYI

 

Then incorporate baseball style scheduling so the travel isnt so stupid.  Have same conference teams play each other 2 or 3 games in a row, depending on different division or same division.  Then have one or 2 set times of the year for "Interleague Play" where the AHC divisions travel to play the divisions in the NHC, and vice versa.  

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This may involve some minor changes, but I like it better than the other proposals listed.

 

Howe Division

Red Wings

Blackhawks

Blues

Wild

Stars

Avalanche

Predators

Jets

 

Gretzky Division

Kings

Ducks

Oilers

Flames

Canucks

Golden Knights

Sharks

Kraken

 

Lemieux Division

Penguins

Flyers

Rangers

Islanders

Devils

Capitals

Whalers (Hurricanes)

Blue Jackets

 

Orr Division

Bruins

Canadiens

Sabres

Maple Leafs

Lightning

Senators

Nordiques (Coyotes)

Halifax (Panthers)

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said:

This may involve some minor changes, but I like it better than the other proposals listed.

 

Howe Division

Red Wings

Blackhawks

Blues

Wild

Stars

Avalanche

Predators

Jets

 

Gretzky Division

Kings

Ducks

Oilers

Flames

Canucks

Golden Knights

Sharks

Kraken

 

Lemieux Division

Penguins

Flyers

Rangers

Islanders

Devils

Capitals

Whalers (Hurricanes)

Blue Jackets

 

Orr Division

Bruins

Canadiens

Sabres

Maple Leafs

Lightning

Senators

Nordiques (Coyotes)

Halifax (Panthers)

 

 

 

 

Love the division names, but holy hell Halifax could not support an NHL team

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I still don't understand what was wrong with 3 divisions in each conference, the division winners having the top 3 seeds, and the 5 best teams after that making the playoffs. It makes for different match ups in the playoffs. I know sometimes the 3rd seed had less points than the 4th seed, but they won their division.

With the 4 divisions, the Leafs for example, how many times do we have to see them play Boston in the playoffs? It's over kill.

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1 hour ago, Barrie said:

I still don't understand what was wrong with 3 divisions in each conference, the division winners having the top 3 seeds, and the 5 best teams after that making the playoffs. It makes for different match ups in the playoffs. I know sometimes the 3rd seed had less points than the 4th seed, but they won their division.

With the 4 divisions, the Leafs for example, how many times do we have to see them play Boston in the playoffs? It's over kill.

How would you split 16 teams into three divisions?

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