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42 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

Agreed.

As much as Quebec is a drain on Canada as a whole, I still feel for Quebec City losing the Nords and having them win the Cup in Colorado the very next season. But would they have won it in Quebec City? No way the Habs trade them Roy.

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2 minutes ago, chaps80 said:

As much as Quebec is a drain on Canada as a whole, I still feel for Quebec City losing the Nords and having them win the Cup in Colorado the very next season. But would they have won it in Quebec City? No way the Habs trade them Roy.

Why is it a drain? Genuinely don't know.

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1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Why is it a drain? Genuinely don't know.

We have "equalization payments" in Canada. The most profitable provinces, such as Alberta with the oil industry, have money taken out of province and given to the less profitable ones, like Quebec, to compensate for their lack of economic production and make them "equal". 

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5 minutes ago, chaps80 said:

We have "equalization payments" in Canada. The most profitable provinces, such as Alberta with the oil industry, have money taken out of province and given to the less profitable ones, like Quebec, to compensate for their lack of economic production and make them "equal". 

Jesus, how does that make any rational sense? Maybe Alberta should secede instead of Quebec

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In Canada, the federal government makes payments to less wealthy Canadian provinces to equalize the provinces' "fiscal capacity" — their ability to generate tax revenues.

In Canada, the federal government makes payments to less wealthy Canadian provinces to equalize the provinces' "fiscal capacity" — their ability to generate tax revenues.

The objective of the program is to ensure that all provinces have access to per capita revenues equal to the potential average of all ten provinces. The formula is based solely on revenues and does not consider the cost of providing services or the expenditure need of the provinces.

Equalization payments do not involve wealthy provinces making direct payments to poor provinces as the money comes from the federal treasury. As an example, a wealthy citizen in New Brunswick, a so-called "have not" province, pays more tax into the federal system and funds more equalization than a poorer citizen in Alberta that pays less federal tax, a so-called "have" province. However, because of Alberta's greater population and wealth, the citizens of Alberta as a whole are net contributors to equalization, while the government of New Brunswick, therefore the citizens, are net receivers of equalization payments.

Equalization payments are one example of what are often collectively referred to in Canada as "transfer payments", a term used in other jurisdictions to refer to cash payments to individuals. Unlike conditional transfer payments such as the Canada Health Transfer or the Canada Social Transfer, the money the provinces receive through equalization can be spent in any way the provincial government desires. The payments are meant to guarantee "reasonably comparable levels" of health care, education, and welfare in all the provinces. The definition of "reasonably comparable levels", however, has been the subject of considerable debate.

2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Jesus, how does that make any rational sense? Maybe Alberta should secede instead of Quebec

Oh, they want to!! lol

It's socialist garbage. Canada is considered a "social democracy", but since Trudeau took office, he's moving us closer to socialism and away from democracy.

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2 hours ago, chaps80 said:

As much as Quebec is a drain on Canada as a whole, I still feel for Quebec City losing the Nords and having them win the Cup in Colorado the very next season. But would they have won it in Quebec City? No way the Habs trade them Roy.

No

1 hour ago, chaps80 said:

In Canada, the federal government makes payments to less wealthy Canadian provinces to equalize the provinces' "fiscal capacity" — their ability to generate tax revenues.

In Canada, the federal government makes payments to less wealthy Canadian provinces to equalize the provinces' "fiscal capacity" — their ability to generate tax revenues.

The objective of the program is to ensure that all provinces have access to per capita revenues equal to the potential average of all ten provinces. The formula is based solely on revenues and does not consider the cost of providing services or the expenditure need of the provinces.

Equalization payments do not involve wealthy provinces making direct payments to poor provinces as the money comes from the federal treasury. As an example, a wealthy citizen in New Brunswick, a so-called "have not" province, pays more tax into the federal system and funds more equalization than a poorer citizen in Alberta that pays less federal tax, a so-called "have" province. However, because of Alberta's greater population and wealth, the citizens of Alberta as a whole are net contributors to equalization, while the government of New Brunswick, therefore the citizens, are net receivers of equalization payments.

Equalization payments are one example of what are often collectively referred to in Canada as "transfer payments", a term used in other jurisdictions to refer to cash payments to individuals. Unlike conditional transfer payments such as the Canada Health Transfer or the Canada Social Transfer, the money the provinces receive through equalization can be spent in any way the provincial government desires. The payments are meant to guarantee "reasonably comparable levels" of health care, education, and welfare in all the provinces. The definition of "reasonably comparable levels", however, has been the subject of considerable debate.

So Detroit, New York, Toronto, Boston are the Albertas of the NHL and AZ, Carolina, and Florida are the Quebecs. I get it.

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35 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

 

So Detroit, New York, Toronto, Boston are the Albertas of the NHL and AZ, Carolina, and Florida are the Quebecs. I get it.

Basically, yes. lol "Profit sharing".

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1 hour ago, GMRwings1983 said:

These guys don't need to be fighting for whitey's amusement.  Just seems wrong.  Stephen A. Smith needs to step in here.

But that dude that tweeted that is asian.

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2 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

I'm still baffled on how Knights were able to fleece Anaheim into trading them Theodore in the expansion draft. 

Yup, guy is an absolute stud. I advocated trading for him so many times before he ever played a game in the NHL. Anaheim clearly weren't that high on him, since they basically gave him away. I really wish Holland would have put a package together before the expansion draft to nab him...

Since then, I've wanted Bean, Fabbro, Makar, Fox, etc... Of course all of these players aren't available, but I do believe one or two of them would be attainable for the right price. Getting Bowey was a smart move by Holland, but I think some of these high end defensive *prospects*, could be had for a reasonable price...

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22 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Yup, guy is an absolute stud. I advocated trading for him so many times before he ever played a game in the NHL. Anaheim clearly weren't that high on him, since they basically gave him away. I really wish Holland would have put a package together before the expansion draft to nab him...

Since then, I've wanted Bean, Fabbro, Makar, Fox, etc... Of course all of these players aren't available, but I do believe one or two of them would be attainable for the right price. Getting Bowey was a smart move by Holland, but I think some of these high end defensive *prospects*, could be had for a reasonable price...

Anaheim had to protect Bieksa with his NMC, that screwed them. Fowler and Lindholm were locks to keep. 

Ahh, Theodore was "traded" to Vegas if they agreed to select Stoner. $4 million salary dump there too. 

Edited by chaps80

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On 4/15/2019 at 7:55 PM, chaps80 said:

In Canada, the federal government makes payments to less wealthy Canadian provinces to equalize the provinces' "fiscal capacity" — their ability to generate tax revenues.

In Canada, the federal government makes payments to less wealthy Canadian provinces to equalize the provinces' "fiscal capacity" — their ability to generate tax revenues.

The objective of the program is to ensure that all provinces have access to per capita revenues equal to the potential average of all ten provinces. The formula is based solely on revenues and does not consider the cost of providing services or the expenditure need of the provinces.

Equalization payments do not involve wealthy provinces making direct payments to poor provinces as the money comes from the federal treasury. As an example, a wealthy citizen in New Brunswick, a so-called "have not" province, pays more tax into the federal system and funds more equalization than a poorer citizen in Alberta that pays less federal tax, a so-called "have" province. However, because of Alberta's greater population and wealth, the citizens of Alberta as a whole are net contributors to equalization, while the government of New Brunswick, therefore the citizens, are net receivers of equalization payments.

Equalization payments are one example of what are often collectively referred to in Canada as "transfer payments", a term used in other jurisdictions to refer to cash payments to individuals. Unlike conditional transfer payments such as the Canada Health Transfer or the Canada Social Transfer, the money the provinces receive through equalization can be spent in any way the provincial government desires. The payments are meant to guarantee "reasonably comparable levels" of health care, education, and welfare in all the provinces. The definition of "reasonably comparable levels", however, has been the subject of considerable debate.

Oh, they want to!! lol

It's socialist garbage. Canada is considered a "social democracy", but since Trudeau took office, he's moving us closer to socialism and away from democracy.

Don't believe any of this conservative drivel my American friends. :lol:

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5 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Don't believe any of this conservative drivel my American friends. :lol:

Conservative drivel? I'm absolutely Conservative, but that's exactly how equalization payments work, and have worked for a long time. The States have Trump, they have nothing to worry about.

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14 minutes ago, chaps80 said:

Anaheim had to protect Bieksa with his NMC, that screwed them. Fowler and Lindholm were locks to keep. 

Ahh, Theodore was "traded" to Vegas if they agreed to select Stoner. $4 million salary dump there too. 

Anaheim traded Theodore to Vegas in order to protect both Sami Vatanen and Josh Manson from the expansion draft. I said at the time that they should have just taken the hit losing one of Vatanen or Manson, rather than the up and coming stud, Theodore. It was dumb back then, and it looks even dumber now. Theodore is a better defenseman than the other two combined, and he's also 4 years younger than both.

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35 minutes ago, chaps80 said:

Conservative drivel? I'm absolutely Conservative, but that's exactly how equalization payments work, and have worked for a long time. The States have Trump, they have nothing to worry about.

 

On 4/15/2019 at 7:55 PM, chaps80 said:

 

It's socialist garbage. Canada is considered a "social democracy", but since Trudeau took office, he's moving us closer to socialism and away from democracy.

*sigh* 

If it's worked for a long time, then it was working for Harper, Mulroney, etc just as well. It's not unique to JT and his Liberals. Stop being LGWs Canadian @Neomaxizoomdweebie

:lol:

 

Edited by The 91 of Ryans

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