2020 Draft Thread

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

2 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

I bet he's got Sudeten German blood...

German language

 

Hudler is a German language occupational surname, which means "rag trader", derived from the Middle High German hudel ("rag").

lol @ rag trader

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

"Greetings traveler. Jiri has rags if you have coin."

 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

4 hours ago, marcaractac said:

We're Canadian

Should you not also be arguing in French then?

 

Edited January 30, 2020 by Neomaxizoomdweebie

[marcaractac 3,963]

Just now, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Should you not also be arguing in French then?

We're not from Quebec

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

2 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

We're not from Quebec

Sorry. I guess that only applies to signs.

[marcaractac 3,963]

1 minute ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Sorry. I guess that only applies to signs.

Yeah, they get pretty contrary if the signs aren't bilingual. Yet they don't put english on anything themselves. 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

39 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

I bet he's got Sudeten German blood...

German language

 

Hudler is a German language occupational surname, which means "rag trader", derived from the Middle High German hudel ("rag").

That sounds like college degree that a millenial would go into tens of thousands of dollars in school loan debt for.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

11 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

That sounds like college degree that a millenial would go into tens of thousands of dollars in school loan debt for.

Damn millenials and there...

*draws card*

Rag trading

[arag 308]

42 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

That sounds like college degree that a millenial would go into tens of thousands of dollars in school loan debt for.

They misspelled his name on work visa. It’s actually Hustler not Hudler. 

 

43 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

That sounds like college degree that a millenial would go into tens of thousands of dollars in school loan debt for.

 

[F.Michael 4,590]

49 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

That sounds like college degree that a millenial would go into tens of thousands of dollars in school loan debt for.

 

37 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Damn millenials and there...

*draws card*

Rag trading

[Dabura 12,232]

13 hours ago, krsmith17 said:

I think you need a mix of both at all positions.

No doubt. Just sayin', if you look at the way the recent Bolts teams have been constructed, there's definitely a smol forwards + swol defensemen theme.

Edited January 31, 2020 by Dabura

[Dabura 12,232]

8 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

TSN - MacKenzie's Mid Season Draft Prospect Rankings

This one's a little more @krsmith17 friendly. 

Stutzle slowly becoming unanimous #3. FML when we pick 4th. 

Honestly, fam, I wouldn't worry about it. My big takeaway from this latest round of rankings -- McKenzie's and others -- is that this top 10 is going to be loaded and that, just as with the past few drafts, the exact order these players get taken will be very much up in the air until the names are actually called.

A number of Wings fans would be disappointed with our first pick in this super-important draft being a smallish right-shot defenseman @ 4th. And y'know what, that's totally fair. Personally tho? I feel January 2020 Jamie Drysdale > January 2019 Bowen Byram. Drysdale is a hell of a hockey player. Having Hronek, Seider, Drysdale, McIsaac could conceivably mean the most challenging phase of the D rebuild effort -- the "We need to draft two or three cornerstone defensemen" phase -- is more or less over.

Edited January 31, 2020 by Dabura

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

3 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Honestly, fam, I wouldn't worry about it. My big takeaway from this latest round of rankings -- McKenzie's and others -- is that this top 10 is going to be loaded and that, just as with the past few drafts, the exact order these players get taken will be very much up in the air until the names are actually called.

A number of Wings fans would be disappointed with our first pick in this super-important draft being a smallish right-shot defenseman @ 4th. And y'know what, that's totally fair. Personally tho? I feel January 2020 Jamie Drysdale > January 2019 Bowen Byram. Drysdale is a hell of a hockey player. Having Hronek, Seider, Drysdale, McIsaac could conceivably mean the most challenging phase of the D rebuild effort -- the "We need to draft two or three cornerstone defensemen" phase -- is more or less over.

Ya pass on drysdale for me , if anything worst comes to worst id be ok trading back a few spots and getting a franchise goalie in askarov to go along with seider+hronek and solidify our back end ,we can always go get another defender later like grans 

right now my mindset is #1 all the way but i have no intentions of dropping 3 f***en spots , i know its out of our hands but i wont allow myself to think that right now, all i know is we need an elite forward with our top pick this draft 

[Dabura 12,232]

4 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Ya pass on drysdale for me , if anything worst comes to worst id be ok trading back a few spots and getting a franchise goalie in askarov to go along with seider+hronek and solidify our back end ,we can always go get another defender later like grans 

right now my mindset is #1 all the way but i have no intentions of dropping 3 f***en spots , i know its out of our hands but i wont allow myself to think that right now, all i know is we need an elite forward with our top pick this draft 

If Askarov is a franchise goalie, Drysdale is a franchise defenseman. Sleep on Drysdale at your own peril!

(I'm preparing myself for the 1st --> 4th death slide. )

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

1 hour ago, Dabura said:

If Askarov is a franchise goalie, Drysdale is a franchise defenseman. Sleep on Drysdale at your own peril!

(I'm preparing myself for the 1st --> 4th death slide. )

 im gonna sleep like a baby on drysdale ... think in 2-3 years we’ll start being ok at d , we need elite forwards and an elite goalie and id prefer targetting those with our top pick , preferably a forward 

[marcaractac 3,963]

9 hours ago, Dabura said:

Honestly, fam, I wouldn't worry about it. My big takeaway from this latest round of rankings -- McKenzie's and others -- is that this top 10 is going to be loaded and that, just as with the past few drafts, the exact order these players get taken will be very much up in the air until the names are actually called.

A number of Wings fans would be disappointed with our first pick in this super-important draft being a smallish right-shot defenseman @ 4th. And y'know what, that's totally fair. Personally tho? I feel January 2020 Jamie Drysdale > January 2019 Bowen Byram. Drysdale is a hell of a hockey player. Having Hronek, Seider, Drysdale, McIsaac could conceivably mean the most challenging phase of the D rebuild effort -- the "We need to draft two or three cornerstone defensemen" phase -- is more or less over.

This. Drysdale is the real deal. Despite being only 17, when he stepped in for Byram in the WJC when he got hurt. he stepped up and performed. Even Byfield showed nothing as a young player. 

 

7 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

 im gonna sleep like a baby on drysdale ... think in 2-3 years we’ll start being ok at d , we need elite forwards and an elite goalie and id prefer targetting those with our top pick , preferably a forward 

Why just start being ok at d in 2-3 years when we could potentially get Drysdale and be elite on d in 2-3 years. Having Seider, Hronek and Drysdale as the core dmen would have the Wings contending for years. Good goaltending is by far easier to come by than an elite dman. They are available in UFA literally every year. 

[krsmith17 7,191]

It's possible that this whole discussion, although fun, could be wasted time and energy... Has the Draft Lottery date been announced yet? It was April 9th last year. So still another 10 weeks of uncertainty... I don't know that we will get the 1st overall pick, but I'm pretty confident, despite the slight odds, that we won't drop to 4th. If we manage to get a top 2 pick I'll be happy. And if that is the case, there will be little discussion on who we should take...

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

28 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

It's possible that this whole discussion, although fun, could be wasted time and energy... Has the Draft Lottery date been announced yet? It was April 9th last year. So still another 10 weeks of uncertainty... I don't know that we will get the 1st overall pick, but I'm pretty confident, despite the slight odds, that we won't drop to 4th. If we manage to get a top 2 pick I'll be happy. And if that is the case, there will be little discussion on who we should take...

Agreed. Stutzle. 

[marcaractac 3,963]

26 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

It's possible that this whole discussion, although fun, could be wasted time and energy... Has the Draft Lottery date been announced yet? It was April 9th last year. So still another 10 weeks of uncertainty... I don't know that we will get the 1st overall pick, but I'm pretty confident, despite the slight odds, that we won't drop to 4th. If we manage to get a top 2 pick I'll be happy. And if that is the case, there will be little discussion on who we should take...

If we don't get Lafreniere, I'll be bummed out. But by the time the draft itself rolls around I'll be ecstatic at the odds of either Byfield, Drysdale, or Stutzle. I'll be gutted if we get neither of those four, but I'd live. Save the meltdowns for you-know-who.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

1 hour ago, marcaractac said:

This. Drysdale is the real deal. Despite being only 17, when he stepped in for Byram in the WJC when he got hurt. he stepped up and performed. Even Byfield showed nothing as a young player. 

 

Why just start being ok at d in 2-3 years when we could potentially get Drysdale and be elite on d in 2-3 years. Having Seider, Hronek and Drysdale as the core dmen would have the Wings contending for years. Good goaltending is by far easier to come by than an elite dman. They are available in UFA literally every year. 

Ya how sure are you on drysdale? Is he makar good ? Or like barrie? Big difference for me , i know we absolutely need an elite forward to join this team . Drysdale is like the only dman rated in what the top 10? For sure when we look back in this draft we’ll see dmen picked later on that will be just as good if not better 

As for the dmen i think we’re ok with seider,hronek,mcisaac in 2-3 years and hopefully we get lucky and one  of tuomisto,johanssen pan out + haven’t given up on cholowski yet as some  people seem to have + always our 2nd rounders to pick a dman, trade, ufa i think we’ll be ok

As for goaltending sure we can pick up “good” goaltending as you put it , nothing great  ...looking back in the wings recent history we won despite not having elite goaltending (we got hasek at the end of his career) If we actually got an elite goaltender this time around it would be a big + but id rather concentrate on the forward with our first pick and get the goalie and d later

Anyways like krsmith said , im choosing to believe we wont drop 3 spots so theres no point talking about #4 till the draft results and jinxing ourselves . Im more looking ahead at prospects we can land in the second round with upside than doing my head in with whats a available at 4, less stressful that way 

Edited January 31, 2020 by nyqvististhefuture

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

I'd just like to remind everyone that we'll 100% be picking top 5 again next year. It's tempting, after this heinous season, to want this draft to be epic. I get it. But I like to look at it like we'll come out of the next two drafts with either two elite/high end forwards or defensemen or a combo of the two. Maybe throw a goalie in there as well. 

But I benefit from knowing that it'll be 5 years before this team sniffs at success again. By then, the cupboards will be stacked with goodies. 

[marcaractac 3,963]

Just now, nyqvististhefuture said:

Ya how sure are you on drysdale? Is he makar good ? Or like barrie? Big difference for me , i know we absolutely need an elite forward to join this team . Drysdale is like the only dman rated in what the top 10? For sure when we look back in this draft we’ll see dmen picked later on that will be just as good if not better 

As for the dmen i think we’re ok with seider,hronek,mcisaac in 2-3 years and hopefully we get lucky and one/some of tuomisto,johanssen pan out + haven’t given up on cholowski yet as some  people seem to have + always our 2nd rounders to pick a dman, trade, ufa i think we’ll be ok

As for goaltending sure we can pick up “good” goaltending as you put it , nothing great  ...looking back in the wings recent history we won despite not having elite goaltending (we got hasek at the end of his career) If we actually got an elite goaltender this time around it would be a big + but id rather concentrate on the forward with our first pick and get the goalie and d later

Anyways like krsmith said , im choosing to believe we wont drop 3 spots so theres no point talking about #4 till the draft results and jinxing ourselves . Im more looking ahead at prospects we can land in the second round with upside than doing my head in with whats a available at 4, less stressful that way lol

According to scouts, the Bobfather, etc, he is the real deal. Projected top dman. High end skill, defensively responsible. Very much in the conversation with guys like Byram and Makar. 

Elite goalies are lovely, but the league has been moving away from needing an elite franchise goalie for some time now. The days of paying 10+ million for a goalie is dying. Askarov has that type of potential, so let his eventual price tag be another team's future problem. Look at the Habs and how they are saddled with that Price contract. Having two good goalies is becoming more and more important today. That is impossible to pull off if you have to pay one guy 10 million. 

I think it's wiser to construct an elite top four d, have a couple reliable goalies, and keep trimming aging vets and adding youth up front. 

Seider-Drysdale & Hronek-McIsaac. f*** yes. 

Of course, this is assuming we draft 3 or 4, which is highly likely. 

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

29 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

According to scouts, the Bobfather, etc, he is the real deal. Projected top dman. High end skill, defensively responsible. Very much in the conversation with guys like Byram and Makar. 

Elite goalies are lovely, but the league has been moving away from needing an elite franchise goalie for some time now. The days of paying 10+ million for a goalie is dying. Askarov has that type of potential, so let his eventual price tag be another team's future problem. Look at the Habs and how they are saddled with that Price contract. Having two good goalies is becoming more and more important today. That is impossible to pull off if you have to pay one guy 10 million. 

I think it's wiser to construct an elite top four d, have a couple reliable goalies, and keep trimming aging vets and adding youth up front. 

Seider-Drysdale & Hronek-McIsaac. f*** yes. 

Of course, this is assuming we draft 3 or 4, which is highly likely. 

Where did mckenzie day this? In his new top 60 rankings?

the days of paying goalies 10 mill a season should never have existed , id pay  8-8,5 max and i think teams wont be paying 10+ for goalies in the future , especially with scoring on its way up

I think we’re well on our way to getting a good d core with drysdale or without , id only even consider him if we dropped to 4+ and for me thats not an option haha 

Anyways i dont wanna keep thinking anything else but #1 we deserve it after this mess + ive always believed the draft is rigged and cant see bettman allowing an original 6 team to further tumble down .. it’s our turn 

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

40 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

I'd just like to remind everyone that we'll 100% be picking top 5 again next year. It's tempting, after this heinous season, to want this draft to be epic. I get it. But I like to look at it like we'll come out of the next two drafts with either two elite/high end forwards or defensemen or a combo of the two. Maybe throw a goalie in there as well. 

But I benefit from knowing that it'll be 5 years before this team sniffs at success again. By then, the cupboards will be stacked with goodies. 

Im not pretending we’ll be making the playoffs next season but i do think we’ll be way more competitive with all the young kids coming and hopefully yzerman can get rid of some bad contracts. Think we might have to rely winning a lottery pick to move up 3-4 spots to get in the top 3 

Id say we’re gonna already be at 3 years of goodies when we add these 2 last drafts + this one coming up+ a few guys like hronek,smith,rasmussen prior drafts earlier. 

We’re headed in the right direction thats for sure 

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

1 minute ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Im not pretending we’ll be making the playoffs next season but i do think we’ll be way more competitive with all the young kids coming and hopefully yzerman can get rid of some bad contracts. Think we might have to rely winning a lottery pick to move up 3-4 spots to get in the top 3 

Id say we’re gonna already be at 3 years of goodies when we add these 2 last drafts + this one coming up+ a few guys like hronek,smith,rasmussen prior drafts earlier. 

We’re headed in the right direction thats for sure 

Top 5 pick again next year. Guaranteed.