Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 6, 2020 18 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: I dont think I would trade any of the young core. Constantly recycling players just prolongs a rebuild. Rather see SY fill roster needs thru the draft an free agency. Making a new hole to fill another doesnt make much sense to me. Pretty much. I guess the one X factor consideration is that Yzerman surely knows how he wants his team to look and play...and it's possible that, say, Mantha doesn't fit into that vision the way, say, Noah Hanifin maybe does. Who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 6, 2020 RE: The Larkin drug "rumors"... unless I've missed something, the only whispers about it are a couple of tweets from some rando who claims to be a Wings media person. I mentioned him and these tweets on this forum a few weeks ago and I suppose I shouldn't have done that. Rookie move on my part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Dabura said: RE: The Larkin drug "rumors"... unless I've missed something, the only whispers about it are a couple of tweets from some rando who claims to be a Wings media person. I mentioned him and these tweets on this forum a few weeks ago and I suppose I shouldn't have done that. Rookie move on my part. Why? Why? Look what you did. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 11 hours ago, krsmith17 said: So far Yzerman has traded a 4th round pick for a 24 year old bottom six winger, a 25 year old depth winger for a 31 year old depth defenseman, a 19 year old defensive prospect for a 23 year old middle (bottom) six winger, a 24 year old bottom six winger for a 23 year old middle six winger, a 22 year old depth defenseman for a 24 year old depth goaltender, a 24 year old depth defenseman for a 23 year old depth defenseman... Not a single one of those trades have displayed "the opposite" of an old boys club mentality... Ur high 11 hours ago, krsmith17 said: The ONLY move Yzerman has made that displayed that he doesn't favor the old vets, is waiving Ericsson. 95% of Red Wings fans loved that move, and for good reason. I think the same would have been the case if he elected to waive Howard over Comrie, or if he were to waive Nielsen in favor of a Turgeon. It shows a commitment to a youth movement, and gives young guys an opportunity to show they might not suck, over an old guy we know sucks... Then why doesn't he do it???? It was so obvious with Ericsson after all??? 11 hours ago, krsmith17 said: I would have kept Comrie over Howard. In the end, it likely won't matter much. But it might... Anyway, I've said all I will say on this now. I've made my point very clear. As did you. You're just asking the same dumb questions over and over again, and I'm just repeating myself over and over again... The woe is me crying is getting old 11 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Another thing I said was very obvious when Yzerman elected not to bring Comrie back was that he clearly doesn't see any value in him going forward. Does that mean that he's right? No, not necessarily. Could he be right? Absolutely. However, there's nothing you can say that will convince me that not bringing Comrie back as a free asset for Grand Rapids was the right decision, regardless how this situation plays out. We lack goaltending depth. At worst, Comrie is a solid depth goaltender. At best, Comrie could pull a Jordan Bennington and become a starter for a few seasons, and maybe even help us go on a run in the playoffs. He likely falls somewhere in between, but again, even that's worth acquiring for free... Can't wait for Howard to get re-signed while ur still jerking to ur Manitoba Moose goalie lol 11 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Regarding the common cold. I've never taken more than a day or two (max) off work due to a cold. Anyone that needs three plus days off for a cold are just milking it... It's entirely possible that Larkin felt a cold coming on in Winnipeg, got it really bad later that night, had it at it's worst the next day and a half, and started feeling a little better the following day. Still had cold symptoms which is why he was a game time decision, and decided to man up and play through it. He did, so good on him. Or you know, he could have been out all night after the game in Winnipeg drinking and doing coke, because he's a young, rich, white guy... Wait what does him being white have to do with it??? Larkin is a drug addict, learn to deal with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Ur high Then why doesn't he do it???? It was so obvious with Ericsson after all??? The woe is me crying is getting old Can't wait for Howard to get re-signed while ur still jerking to ur Manitoba Moose goalie lol Wait what does him being white have to do with it??? Larkin is a drug addict, learn to deal with it You're trolling and you're not even good at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: You're trolling and you're not even good at it. Completely ignores and abandons Ericsson example, proceeds to make racist statement about Larkin. "Anyone I can't refute is a troll" Nice cop out coward "Winnipegs career AHL goalie is better than Howard" Edited January 7, 2020 by ChristopherReevesLegs 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Completely ignores and abandons Ericsson example, proceeds to make racist statement about Larkin. "Anyone I can't refute is a troll" Nice cop out coward "Winnipegs career AHL goalie is better than Howard" I'm pretty sure you were the originator of that blanket statement... I've refuted your bulls*** countless times, you're just too ignorant to understand anyone else's perspective that doesn't line up with your own... Never once said that Comrie was better than Howard, but hey get spewing the bulls***... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: I'm pretty sure you were the originator of that blanket statement... What blanket statement? Why do u ignore Ericsson? Why does it matter that Larkin is white? 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I've refuted your bulls*** countless times, you're just too ignorant to understand anyone else's perspective that doesn't line up with your own... Ur higher than I thought 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Never once said that Comrie was better than Howard, but hey get spewing the bulls***... So you prefer to play the worse goalie? What backwards ass s*** is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: What blanket statement? Why do u ignore Ericsson? Why does it matter that Larkin is white? Ur higher than I thought So you prefer to play the worse goalie? What backwards ass s*** is that? I'm high. You're just dumb as bricks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I'm high. You're just dumb as bricks. Ad hominem attacks lol Do you have anything? Or are you so outta ammo you've reverted to 12 year old school girl insults? Edited January 7, 2020 by ChristopherReevesLegs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 766 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Ad hominem attacks lol Do you have anything? Or are you so outta ammo you've reverted to 12 year old school girl insults? Once he's well and truly bested he'll criticize your spelling. I've been there it's quite satisfying. 1 ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, mackel said: Once he's well and truly bested he'll criticize your spelling. I've been there it's quite satisfying. He's right about Comrie. Just like he was right about Smith, Mrazek, Jurco.... oh wait nvm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 766 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, ChristopherReevesLegs said: He's right about Comrie. Just like he was right about Smith, Mrazek, Jurco.... oh wait nvm Did you know Larkin is the next Bergeron?? I was informed of this last week. Woah blown away! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, mackel said: Did you know Larkin is the next Bergeron?? I was informed of this last week. Woah blown away! Im starting to think @krsmith17 is Larkin. He seems to know everything about how Larkin is feeling and behaving behind the scenes. And surely he wouldn't just make that up for his own fantasy la la land? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) On 1/5/2020 at 1:01 PM, ChristopherReevesLegs said: I figure a deal for Larkin would have to include roster players. Jarnkrok + Ekholm + 1st (top 5 protection) + 2nd Bu yeah realistically there probably do not exist very many scenarios where Larkin gets traded. On 1/5/2020 at 1:19 PM, krsmith17 said: 23 year old 1C for 28 year old 3C and 29 year old 3D + a couple picks... Yeah, no thanks... Dabura's package is much closer to what Yzerman would be looking for. That's if he were trading him. Larkin isn't getting traded though, no matter how "lazy" you think he is, or how many drugs you think he does... The lazy thing couldn't be further from the truth, and the drugs thing is an unsubstantiated rumor... When you realize that worthless aging 3C Jarnkrok is on pace to have more points than Larkin Edited January 7, 2020 by ChristopherReevesLegs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, mackel said: Did you know Larkin is the next Bergeron?? I was informed of this last week. Woah blown away! Coming from the "Zadina is a bust" guy. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 Guys, plz don't fight. It breaks my heart. We're all on the same team here. Let's remember who the real enemy is: Mackel. 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 10 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Ad hominem attacks lol Do you have anything? Or are you so outta ammo you've reverted to 12 year old school girl insults? Coming from the guy that keeps asking the same questions over and over again, expecting a different answer... and then says I'm "high" because you don't get the answer you want... 10 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: He's right about Comrie. Just like he was right about Smith, Mrazek, Jurco.... oh wait nvm I was wrong on the development of players in the past? No way! How can that be... You have obviously never been wrong... Zadina is definitely a "bust" though... For the 50th time, I'm not predicting anything on Comrie, just that he should have been given a shot. Hell, my biggest beef isn't even that he was waived in favor of Howard, it's that he wasn't claimed to be sent directly to Grand Rapids. Keep pretending that Yzerman has never and will never make a mistake. Who are we to question the moves of a general manager? We're mere fans... No matter how Comrie pans out, letting a free asset go was a mistake. Our goaltending depth is amongst the worst in the league, and Grand Rapids are massively underperforming. Comrie should be in Grand Rapids right now, rather than Manitoba. 10 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Im starting to think @krsmith17 is Larkin. He seems to know everything about how Larkin is feeling and behaving behind the scenes. And surely he wouldn't just make that up for his own fantasy la la land? Yup, I'm Dylan Larkin, and no I don't do drugs. 10 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: When you realize that worthless aging 3C Jarnkrok is on pace to have more points than Larkin Again, putting words in my mouth... Never said Jarnkrok was worthless... When you think a 28 year old 3C having a career season is better than a 23 year old 1C having a down season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 766 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 15 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Coming from the "Zadina is a bust" guy. I've not been proven wrong... and I stand by that assessment 100% Are you @krsmith17 in disguise or just a psycho sycophant? 6 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Coming from the guy that keeps asking the same questions over and over again, expecting a different answer... and then says I'm "high" because you don't get the answer you want... I was wrong on the development of players in the past? No way! How can that be... You have obviously never been wrong... Zadina is definitely a "bust" though... For the 50th time, I'm not predicting anything on Comrie, just that he should have been given a shot. Hell, my biggest beef isn't even that he was waived in favor of Howard, it's that he wasn't claimed to be sent directly to Grand Rapids. Keep pretending that Yzerman has never and will never make a mistake. Who are we to question the moves of a general manager? We're mere fans... No matter how Comrie pans out, letting a free asset go was a mistake. Our goaltending depth is amongst the worst in the league, and Grand Rapids are massively underperforming. Comrie should be in Grand Rapids right now, rather than Manitoba. Yup, I'm Dylan Larkin, and no I don't do drugs. Again, putting words in my mouth... Never said Jarnkrok was worthless... When you think a 28 year old 3C having a career season is better than a 23 year old 1C having a down season... You surely mean a 2C forced into a 1C role... on a terrible team having a down year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, mackel said: I've not been proven wrong... and I stand by that assessment 100% Based on what most reasonable people would consider a "bust", yes, you have. Busts are a very rare thing. If Zadina qualifies as one, then its not. There have been many early first round picks that played solid, if not exceptional, NHL careers that no one would consider "busts". 18 minutes ago, mackel said: Are you @krsmith17 in disguise or just a psycho sycophant? Thanks for making me get out the dictionary. 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, mackel said: I've not been proven wrong... and I stand by that assessment 100% How can you say a 20 year old who, since his call up is 2nd on the team in points (one behind Larkin), and in just 18 games played is already 4th on the team in GAR on the year? You're totally bonkers. Like ******* mental. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: How can you say a 20 year old who, since his call up is 2nd on the team in points (one behind Larkin), and in just 18 games played is already 4th on the team in GAR on the year? You're totally bonkers. Like ******* mental. You know what else is mental? Comparing Larkin to Staal... and not even the good Staal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 766 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: How can you say a 20 year old who, since his call up is 2nd on the team in points (one behind Larkin), and in just 18 games played is already 4th on the team in GAR on the year? You're totally bonkers. Like ******* mental. Small sample size... any player can have a good run over a short term, and this doesn't even meet that standard. 25 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: You know what else is mental? Comparing Larkin to Staal... and not even the good Staal... It's a hell of a lot closer than a Bergeron comparison... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, mackel said: It's a hell of a lot closer than a Bergeron comparison... So you think Larkin, who has already proven capable of 70+ points in a season, at the age of 22, and is showing great defensive ability this season, at the age of 23, despite lower than usual production (because of subpar linemates), is closer to a career 3rd line, 45 point center, than a career 1st line, 65 point center?... You really are "f***ing mental" aren't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 766 Report post Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: So you think Larkin, who has already proven capable of 70+ points in a season, at the age of 22, and is showing great defensive ability this season, at the age of 23, despite lower than usual production (because of subpar linemates), is closer to a career 3rd line, 45 point center, than a career 1st line, 65 point center?... You really are "f***ing mental" aren't you? PPG: Staal 0.57 Larkin 0.67 Bergeron 0.79 Closer to Staal than Bergeron. Staal is a responsible 2C, Bergeron is an elite defensive 1C, Larkin is again closer to Staal. So do you want to continue looking like an idiot or are you ready to go sulk in the corner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
