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On 6/5/2024 at 3:56 PM, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

Kenny will soon have his 5th ring. Does everyone still think hes a terrible GM?

Literally depends on the circumstances. Like Babcock, he needs to be given the right scenario to succeed.

22 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Yup.  Holland is the biggest GRAVY TRAINER of all time.  Devellano drafts an all star team.  Lidstrom, Konstantinov, Fedorov, Kozlov, Holmstrom, etc.  Bowman and Devellano bring in Larionov, Fetisov, Murphy, Shanahan, etc.  Brian Murray traded for Draper.  Ken Holland deserves credit for not totally screwing anything up until the Filip Zadina pick, but he doesn't deserve more than 1/2 a percent of the credit for any of our cup wins.  Those were all orchestrated by others.  He just had the GM title at the time.  This Oilers team was orchestrated by Gary Bettman giving the Oilers (4) 1OA's in 7 years with a couple other top 10 picks sprinkeld in.  Ken Holland walks his way into the GM position on that team right when their stars are all maturing.  He brought in Evander Kane.  Wooooo.  Big maneuver there.  What a genius.  Right place, Right time.  Story of Ken Holland's life.  He's a bum.  Gravy Trainin Regard.

I do believe that the KH hate over the years was overblown. The streak was a mandate so I don't even blame him for stretching it out for as long as he did. And I don't think he is a BAD GM. He is just better as a tinkerer than as a builder/rebuilder.

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On 6/7/2024 at 7:41 PM, Axl Foley said:

Literally depends on the circumstances. Like Babcock, he needs to be given the right scenario to succeed.

I do believe that the KH hate over the years was overblown. The streak was a mandate so I don't even blame him for stretching it out for as long as he did. And I don't think he is a BAD GM. He is just better as a tinkerer than as a builder/rebuilder.

Holland sucks

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On 6/8/2024 at 4:41 AM, Axl Foley said:

Literally depends on the circumstances. Like Babcock, he needs to be given the right scenario to succeed.

I do believe that the KH hate over the years was overblown. The streak was a mandate so I don't even blame him for stretching it out for as long as he did. And I don't think he is a BAD GM. He is just better as a tinkerer than as a builder/rebuilder.

Owners decide which way the GM goes. Holland had no other choice than trying to prolong the streak. Unfortunately he didn’t do a good enough job. 

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On 6/13/2024 at 8:00 PM, Scott R Lucidi said:

Holland sucks

Literally the perfect 2nd gen CEO. Daddy built the company, but the son, while not a go-getting self-starter, masters how to stay on top and bring the company into the next gen. 

But even that is a poor analogy since Holland helped build the company with daddy as scouting director and AGM for YEARS

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1 hour ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

Literally the perfect 2nd gen CEO. Daddy built the company, but the son, while not a go-getting self-starter, masters how to stay on top and bring the company into the next gen. 

But even that is a poor analogy since Holland helped build the company with daddy as scouting director and AGM for YEARS

If the oil loses, you have to say Holland sucks

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5 hours ago, Motor City Mullets said:

I will say for $hit$ and giggles I hope Edmonton wins tomorrow night and have both fan bases on the edge of their seats…Since I’m indifferent about both teams I’d just assume this series goes 7 games.

BS

You have been all "Irish need not apply" since the playoffs started. Don't walk it back now that the Micks have gone TURBO SCORING MODE.

You fear the firepower

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2 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

BS

You have been all "Irish need not apply" since the playoffs started. Don't walk it back now that the Micks have gone TURBO SCORING MODE.

You fear the firepower

100%.  Flippity Floppity Mike McHoppity needs to stick to his guns.  The hate is real.  The hate for Holland is good.

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14 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

Are you a McTiddy man or a Poosy man?

If Holland wasn't a part of the Oilers, I'd be on board 100%.  I've always like the Oilers.  But that gravy trainer going to the Oil has me wanting any other team in the league to win.  He has next to zero to do with their success.  His drafting has been mediocre.  His trading has been mediocre.  But he lucked his way onto a team with McClurevid.  Wish I could take over as GM of the teams he gets.  

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