Tony DeAngelo

[bIueadams 776]

49 minutes ago, ely s said:

these $6.1m were just to put MTL in a tough spot. They will resign him to a fair contract, depending on production.

That's what it sounds like.

I just remember when that offersheet happened everyone was acting like Bergy had just gotten dunked on by the Canes. I was saying I wouldn't be too sure, cause Kotka sucks and this may very well end up a huge overpayment in picks and money. Canes definitely overpaid so far in both. If anything they did the Habs a favor here handing them a 1st and a 3rd for Kotka. Kotka isn't worth that much right now, and probably never will be.

 

[ely s 458]

37 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

That's what it sounds like.

I just remember when that offersheet happened everyone was acting like Bergy had just gotten dunked on by the Canes. I was saying I wouldn't be too sure, cause Kotka sucks and this may very well end up a huge overpayment in picks and money. Canes definitely overpaid so far in both. If anything they did the Habs a favor here handing them a 1st and a 3rd for Kotka. Kotka isn't worth that much right now, and probably never will be.

 

He´s 21 and on a 20 goal pace, which is ok. A first (#25+) and a third (#90+) guarantee you f#ck all. Time will tell, but I think the Canes got a good return if he signs a new cheaper contract.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

7 minutes ago, ely s said:

He´s 21 and on a 20 goal pace, which is ok. A first (#25+) and a third (#90+) guarantee you f#ck all. Time will tell, but I think the Canes got a good return if he signs a new cheaper contract.

agreed.

[bIueadams 776]

7 minutes ago, ely s said:

He´s 21 and on a 20 goal pace, which is ok. A first (#25+) and a third (#90+) guarantee you f#ck all. Time will tell, but I think the Canes got a good return if he signs a new cheaper contract.

I mean, you can imagine where I fall on this. Kotka is worse than Zadina. If Jesperi suddenly turns it on then it's a worthwhile investment. But he's 200 games into his career and barely getting 4th line minutes.... He might be back in Finland b4 Zadina is back in Czechia. 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

Since he was signed as a RFA, doesnt Carolina have to pay him more on his next contract until he's UFA eligible?

[Akakabuto 1,842]

3 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Since he was signed as a RFA, doesnt Carolina have to pay him more on his next contract until he's UFA eligible?

You can work your way around that. I think. Dont make the player a qualifying offer and then sign him as UFA. 

[bIueadams 776]

9 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

You can work your way around that. I think. Dont make the player a qualifying offer and then sign him as UFA. 

Daring. They certainly aren't treating him that nice with the whole 10 minutes a night...

[Akakabuto 1,842]

11 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Daring. They certainly aren't treating him that nice with the whole 10 minutes a night...

It could certainly backfire but there were som talks about how the Canes and Kotka had an understanding that his next deal wouldn't be as high as what they gave him to pry him from Montreal. Maybe not enough ice time - in his opinion - makes him feel that he doesn't need to honor that.

[marcaractac 3,963]

16 hours ago, ely s said:

these $6.1m were just to put MTL in a tough spot. They will resign him to a fair contract, depending on production.

He's gonna be UFA next summer because there is no way he is qualified at 6.1 mil unless he breaks out big time soon. 

[bIueadams 776]

3 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

It could certainly backfire but there were som talks about how the Canes and Kotka had an understanding that his next deal wouldn't be as high as what they gave him to pry him from Montreal. Maybe not enough ice time - in his opinion - makes him feel that he doesn't need to honor that.

Even if he makes good on the handshake agreement, spending $6.1 mil, a 1st, and a 3rd, on a kid who plays 10 minutes a night is big dumb.

Literally could have overpaid almost any middling UFA center, spent less assets, and achieved better results.

Dundon played right into Bergevin's (accidental?) long con.

>Bored
>Offersheet Aho cause why not
>Aho's owner throws tantrum lol
>Matches, but the r-slur is still seething
>Years later
>"Marc one of your players has been offersheeted"
>OH FUQ FUQQ FUQ FUQ
>Lol crybaby owner over offersheeted my draft mistake
>Thank him for the picks and go back to lifting
>Think about retiring or moving to prez cause these lifts are getting too easy

[bIueadams 776]

Forgot the Habs got Dvorak to replace Kotka. Basically Bergevin traded Kotka and a 2nd in exchange for a Dvorak and a 3rd. There's no way the loser here isn't Carolina.

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[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

15 hours ago, bIueadams said:

 

we cant get him anymore

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

18 hours ago, bIueadams said:

 

Love seeing a guy beat cancel culture.

[Jimmybigrigs69 372]

On 11/29/2021 at 1:06 PM, bIueadams said:

That's what it sounds like.

I just remember when that offersheet happened everyone was acting like Bergy had just gotten dunked on by the Canes. I was saying I wouldn't be too sure, cause Kotka sucks and this may very well end up a huge overpayment in picks and money. Canes definitely overpaid so far in both. If anything they did the Habs a favor here handing them a 1st and a 3rd for Kotka. Kotka isn't worth that much right now, and probably never will be.

 

Friedman saying Canes may buyout Kotka

[town123 235]

Good call

[Axl Foley 334]

20 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

Friedman saying Canes may buyout Kotka

to keep Necas?