2021 NHL Playoffs

[Gniwder 168]

4 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

His smile and like for his team= gone. 

Love that he has his nose outside the mask.

Covid = X doubt

[Gniwder 168]

2 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

prob has a big ol spliff of BC hybrid stank hanging out of his mouth behind that mask. 

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Weed culture is cancer

 

[kipwinger 8,524]

1 hour ago, GMRwings1983 said:

You're literally the only person who thinks that.  What else does Draisaitl do besides score?  Take faceoffs?  He's not exactly getting high Selke nominations.  

WHAT?! I'm blown away. You mean a bunch of dipsh*ts who use confirmation bias to believe what they already want to believe disagree with me? Oh no!

Draisaitl one of the top faceoff men in the league, and plays selke caliber defense against other teams' top lines. But other than that I guess nothing much. You can downplay it if you like, but McDavid isn't getting Selke votes against other team's top lines. He's getting sheltered from them. Likewise, when the Oilers need the puck they send out Draisaitl (or Nugent Hopkins even) rather than McDavid to go win the faceoff. These things matter and make you a more complete player. McDavid is the best scorer in the league, bar none. He's like Pavel Bure. Bure was the best scorer in the league for a period. But he was NEVER the best player in the league.

FWIW Draisaitl also has a better goals per game average than McDavid over the last four years as well, so it's not like he's not contributing comparable levels of offense. He just doesn't have as many assists during that same period.

 

 

Edited May 26, 2021 by kipwinger

[Akakabuto 1,751]

LOL I really hope this is copypasta

[Gniwder 168]

4 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

LOL I really hope this is copypasta

It is. Nothing healthier than building an entire identity around marijuana use.

Grow up and drink 3 bottles of wine a night like the rest of us.

[F.Michael 4,590]

2 hours ago, Gniwder said:

McDavid to LA all but confirmed

Edited May 26, 2021 by F.Michael

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

47 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

WHAT?! I'm blown away. You mean a bunch of dipsh*ts who use confirmation bias to believe what they already want to believe disagree with me? Oh no!

Draisaitl one of the top faceoff men in the league, and plays selke caliber defense against other teams' top lines. But other than that I guess nothing much. You can downplay it if you like, but McDavid isn't getting Selke votes against other team's top lines. He's getting sheltered from them. Likewise, when the Oilers need the puck they send out Draisaitl (or Nugent Hopkins even) rather than McDavid to go win the faceoff. These things matter and make you a more complete player. McDavid is the best scorer in the league, bar none. He's like Pavel Bure. Bure was the best scorer in the league for a period. But he was NEVER the best player in the league.

FWIW Draisaitl also has a better goals per game average than McDavid over the last four years as well, so it's not like he's not contributing comparable levels of offense. He just doesn't have as many (secondary) assists.

 

 

Bure was never the best scorer in the league.  Goals maybe.  Not points.  McDavid is a more versatile offensive player.  He's primarily a set-up man who scores goals.  Bure was predominantly a goal scorer with low assist numbers.  Bure was never going to dominate Art Ross races.  

You're overrating Draisatl's defensive play.  He's never received a top 20 Selke vote, let alone top 10.  He's better defensively than McDavid, but that doesn't make him a good defensive forward.  Zetterberg was better defensively than Gretzky.  There's a reason nobody cared about Gretzky or Lemieux's defensive prowess.    

[Akakabuto 1,751]

1 hour ago, Gniwder said:

It is. Nothing healthier than building an entire identity around marijuana use.

Grow up and drink 3 bottles of wine a night like the rest of us.

Shut up u dont get to tell me what to consume when I watch my favorite Rick & Morty episodes!

[Gniwder 168]

2 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

Shut up u dont get to tell me what to consume when I watch my favorite Rick & Morty episodes!

"And then... he turned himself into a pickle?!?!?"

[kipwinger 8,524]

12 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said:

Bure was never the best scorer in the league.  Goals maybe.  Not points.  McDavid is a more versatile offensive player.  He's primarily a set-up man who scores goals.  Bure was predominantly a goal scorer with low assist numbers.  Bure was never going to dominate Art Ross races.  

You're overrating Draisatl's defensive play.  He's never received a top 20 Selke vote, let alone top 10.  He's better defensively than McDavid, but that doesn't make him a good defensive forward.  Zetterberg was better defensively than Gretzky.  There's a reason nobody cared about Gretzky or Lemieux's defensive prowess.    

I'm not suggesting anybody should care about McDavid's defense. I'm suggesting than unless he can play in all situations against top players he's probably not the "best player in the world". Because other top players can while still scoring at elite rates. Draisaitl does, Matthews does as well.

If anything I think you're overrating McDavid's offensive play. Over the course of their careers McDavid outscores Draisaitl at a rate of about .36 ppg. That equates to 29 points over a full season. That's about as much as Crosby outscored Datsyuk in 2008. However no thinking person would argue that Datsyuk wasn't the better player. I'd rather have the guy who can drop 95-100 pts head-to-head against the league's best players than the guy who will score 120 pts but you have to hide from everyone.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

30 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I'm not suggesting anybody should care about McDavid's defense. I'm suggesting than unless he can play in all situations against top players he's probably not the "best player in the world". Because other top players can while still scoring at elite rates. Draisaitl does, Matthews does as well.

If anything I think you're overrating McDavid's offensive play. Over the course of their careers McDavid outscores Draisaitl at a rate of about .36 ppg. That equates to 29 points over a full season. That's about as much as Crosby outscored Datsyuk in 2008. However no thinking person would argue that Datsyuk wasn't the better player. I'd rather have the guy who can drop 95-100 pts head-to-head against the league's best players than the guy who will score 120 pts but you have to hide from everyone.

Actually, just about every thinking person would argue that.  Only Red Wings homers wouldn't.  Crosby was better than Datsyuk.  You're overrating two-way play.  Would you take two-way Fedorov in 1994 over a prime Mario in 1991?  I wouldn't.    

[The 91 of Ryans 3,015]

18 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said:

Actually, just about every thinking person would argue that.  Only Red Wings homers wouldn't.  Crosby was better than Datsyuk.  You're overrating two-way play.  Would you take two-way Fedorov in 1994 over a prime Mario in 1991?  I wouldn't.    

Not in 2008 he wasn't

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

17 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Not in 2008 he wasn't

Not as a two-way player.  But don't let two-way ability mask overall impact on games.  Crosby missed much of that season but still scored 72 points in 53 games.  He scored 120 points the season before as a 19 year old.  Datsyuk was a better two-way player but there was no question who was getting the Hart trophy.  

That's why I bring up Gretzky and Lemieux.  Neither player was good defensively but who really cares?  If you have an otherworldly offensive talent, it becomes less important how responsible they are defensively.  McDavid is the closest we have to a scoring machine.  You don't have to be the best two-way player to be the best player in the league.  Otherwise, Patrice Bergeron is the best player in the league.      

Edited May 26, 2021 by GMRwings1983

[The 91 of Ryans 3,015]

44 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said:

Not as a two-way player.  But don't let two-way ability mask overall impact on games.  Crosby missed much of that season but still scored 72 points in 53 games.  He scored 120 points the season before as a 19 year old.  Datsyuk was a better two-way player but there was no question who was getting the Hart trophy.  

That's why I bring up Gretzky and Lemieux.  Neither player was good defensively but who really cares?  If you have an otherworldly offensive talent, it becomes less important how responsible they are defensively.  McDavid is the closest we have to a scoring machine.  You don't have to be the best two-way player to be the best player in the league.  Otherwise, Patrice Bergeron is the best player in the league.      

I'd take Marner over McD. Selke caliber, kills penalties, carries Mathews. 

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

12 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

I'd take Marner over McD. Selke caliber, kills penalties, carries Mathews. 

LOL.  

[The 91 of Ryans 3,015]

3 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said:

LOL.  

That's right laugh. The 5'10 Leaf kid is killing the s*** out of penalties. Those are hard minutes. The 6'3" kid who's good at cross overs and can skate really fast isn't. I'd bet his hockey IQ is mid-low. 

[F.Michael 4,590]

6 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

That's right laugh. The 5'10 Leaf kid is killing the s*** out of penalties. Those are hard minutes. The 6'3" kid who's good at cross overs and can skate really fast isn't. I'd bet his hockey IQ is mid-low. 

Must agree.

Leafs being a very distant 2nd fav team I have watched a fair amount of games...Marner gets his nose dirty -  hounds the puck carrier - gets in the passing lanes - will block shots - and has a bit of a sneaky physical side that would wouldn't expect while he's on the PK.

I must say he's impressed me more and more as he matures.

 

[marcaractac 3,963]

5 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

Must agree.

Leafs being a very distant 2nd fav team I have watched a fair amount of games...Marner gets his nose dirty -  hounds the puck carrier - gets in the passing lanes - will block shots - and has a bit of a sneaky physical side that would wouldn't expect while he's on the PK.

I must say he's impressed me more and more as he matures.

 

I hope every day that Raymond turns out to be that type of player for us. 

[The 91 of Ryans 3,015]

3 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

Must agree.

Leafs being a very distant 2nd fav team I have watched a fair amount of games...Marner gets his nose dirty -  hounds the puck carrier - gets in the passing lanes - will block shots - and has a bit of a sneaky physical side that would wouldn't expect while he's on the PK.

I must say he's impressed me more and more as he matures.

 

Hope Raymond get's to this level. 

[marcaractac 3,963]

Just now, The 91 of Ryans said:

Hope Raymond get's to this level. 

Get out of my head

[The 91 of Ryans 3,015]

Just now, marcaractac said:

I hope every day that Raymond turns out to be that type of player for us. 

LOL. I am now thinking like you? f*** me.

Just now, marcaractac said:

Get out of my head

LOL double f*** me. 

[marcaractac 3,963]

Just now, The 91 of Ryans said:

LOL. I am now thinking like you? f*** me.

Thinking rules

[The 91 of Ryans 3,015]

Just now, marcaractac said:

Thinking rules

Next thing you know I'll be jet setting to visit the hookers 

[marcaractac 3,963]

1 minute ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Next thing you know I'll be jet setting to visit the hookers 

[F.Michael 4,590]

East Coast Canadians are silly.