The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, kipwinger said: It's top 10 protected. And while I expect Boston to be worse next year, there's no way they're going to be bad enough to fall into the top ten. It's a really good pick. It'll probably land in the low 20s, unless Bergeron and Krejci retire and Pastrnak walks in free agency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, mackel said: I'm actually hoping both picks get punted in that case, in both cases the teams will be worse and the lotto is very much in play. I'd be okay with that in the case of the Boston pick, but I'd rather we use the Islanders pick to move up and get a top center this year. If we can move up and take Carlsson or Fantilli and then pick three times in the 2nd round this could be the draft that essentially ends the rebuild. Just now, The 91 of Ryans said: Dude. This is getting ridiculous haha. 1 1 The 91 of Ryans and mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, kipwinger said: I'd be okay with that in the case of the Boston pick, but I'd rather we use the Islanders pick to move up and get a top center this year. If we can move up and take Carlsson or Fantilli and then pick three times in the 2nd round this could be the draft that essentially ends the rebuild. Serious question. Do you really think any team will concede a top 2 - 4 pick for two picks in the 10 - 16 range (or whatever)? 2 minutes ago, kipwinger said: I'd be okay with that in the case of the Boston pick, but I'd rather we use the Islanders pick to move up and get a top center this year. If we can move up and take Carlsson or Fantilli and then pick three times in the 2nd round this could be the draft that essentially ends the rebuild. Dude. This is getting ridiculous haha. You should say something like "there's no way Yzerman gets a 1st in a Vrana/Zadina package" next Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, The 91 of Ryans said: Serious question. Do you really think any team will concede a top 2 - 4 pick for two picks in the 10 - 16 range (or whatever)? In theory yes, but obviously there are tons of variables. The teams, the value of Detroit's picks, what we're willing to add. I'm using our two first rounders as a starting point. Obviously if it's a team that's just starting their rebuild (and therefore expecting to be bad for a while) having a bunch of high value picks might be worthwhile. It's hard to do, and rare, but we've got the picks to do it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: That's Matthews/Marner like greed from my point of view...Boston isn't likely gonna have the $$$ for Bert this summer - that is if they want to keep him. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 RIP sweet prince. You were the best Bertuzzi we've had since Todd. 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, Walman6million said: RIP sweet prince. You were the best Bertuzzi we've had since Todd. Alas he has risen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 988 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, F.Michael said: That's Matthews/Marner like greed from my point of view...Boston isn't likely gonna have the $$$ for Bert this summer - that is if they want to keep him. So ..hey Bert going to send you to Boston gain some playoff experience then lets talk in July....LOL 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, AtlantaHotWings said: So ..hey Bert going to send you to Boston gain some playoff experience then lets talk in July....LOL This is certainly possible...There's always a chance for him to return this summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 988 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 This is funny 2 Walman6million and ely s reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 C'mon Yzerman, trade Zadina already. I will be overjoyed when I never have to hear that name again. 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 So looking ahead i guess we are going to be doing another shopping spree this summer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,751 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Walman6million said: RIP sweet prince. You were the best Bertuzzi we've had since Todd. Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened. 1 Walman6million reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened. The real cup was the friends we made along the way Dont worry, you're going to a better place junkyard dog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Walman6million said: So looking ahead i guess we are going to be doing another shopping spree this summer? So this team: Vrana - Larkin - Raymond Fabbri - Copp - Perron Kubalik - Ras - Berggren _______ - _____ - Zadina RFA: Veleno Walman - Seider Maata - Chiarot ______ - ______ RFA: Lindstrom Husso _______ Will have $30 million to spend at UFA this summer. Edited March 2, 2023 by Walman6million Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Walman6million said: So this team: Vrana - Larkin - Raymond Fabbri - Copp - Perron Kubalik - Ras - Berggren _______ - _____ - Zadina RFA: Veleno Walman - Seider Maata - Chiarot ______ - ______ RFA: Lindstrom Husso _______ Will have $30 million to spend at UFA this summer. But like on who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: But like on who? I dont think Vrana sticks around. I think Veleno re-signs cheap. Prolly Lindstrom too for the warm body. And we prolly recall Eddogg and Sodastream. So $31ish to spend on a backup G, a RHD, a center, and an extra winger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Walman6million said: I dont think Vrana sticks around. I think Veleno re-signs cheap. Prolly Lindstrom too for the warm body. And we prolly recall Eddogg and Sodastream. So $31ish to spend on a backup G, a RHD, a center, and an extra winger. I get it. Just saying the 2023 UFA market is depressing. I guess Yzerman just continues to sign Perron/Copp/Maatta types until he finally, miraculously, drafts a superstar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I get it. Just saying the 2023 UFA market is depressing. I guess Yzerman just continues to sign Perron/Copp/Maatta types until he finally, miraculously, drafts a superstar? Yeah that seems to be the plan at this point. Timeline just rolled back again. Gotta think losing a guy like Hronek with term means Stevie has his eye on an upgrade there. C: Monahan RHD: Klingberg W: Tatar and Namestnikov G: Quick or Varlamov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Walman6million said: Yeah that seems to be the plan at this point. Timeline just rolled back again. Gotta think losing a guy like Hronek with term means Stevie has his eye on an upgrade there. C: Monahan RHD: Klingberg W: Tatar and Namestnikov G: Quick or Varlamov Barf emoji Also, not sure if you're trying to say Yzerman views Klingberg as an upgrade on Hronek........ Edited March 2, 2023 by The 91 of Ryans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Barf emoji Also, not sure if you're trying to say Yzerman views Klingberg as an upgrade on Hronek........ We HAVE to land Klingberg. Everyone else out there is garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, Walman6million said: We HAVE to land Klingberg. Everyone else out there is garbage. Dude, Klingberg himself is garbage. 18 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Just saying the 2023 UFA market is depressing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 681 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Dude, Klingberg himself is garbage. We need to save that cap space and make a huge swing for Matthews or another star player. Maybe after another 1st round exit you could get Marner or someone from the leafs... sometimes you're better off not spending extra Cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 988 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 hold your money till the right time ..... buying a car to just buy a car vs waiting to get the car you REALLY want type scenario Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 41 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Dude, Klingberg himself is garbage. Radko Gudas it is then 23 minutes ago, mackel said: We need to save that cap space and make a huge swing for Matthews or another star player. Maybe after another 1st round exit you could get Marner or someone from the leafs... sometimes you're better off not spending extra Cap. 13 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: hold your money till the right time ..... buying a car to just buy a car vs waiting to get the car you REALLY want type scenario SY will likely spend $20 mil again, and leave $10 mil around for flexibility. We dont have a money problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites