mackel 763 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: The Vrana situation stings really bad. But we have to accept it. Yzerman took a gamble and it didnt pay off. Our rebuild gets a hell of a lot longer now. Im deflated with this team again now. Stay strong grasshopper... next season we'll have Elmer and Simon up with the big club... growth from within is the way to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 HUSSO leaves practice early wings sign another goalie for depth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Today’s practice: Perron not skating Husso left early (not hurt) Perrons wife just gave birth to their new daughter, That's why he wasn't at practice today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, diehardredwingsfan58 said: Perrons wife just gave birth to their new daughter, That's why he wasn't at practice today. Sounds painful for her Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Mantha. It was a good chance to take. Even with the Vrana situation, SY wins that trade. Trade tree from the Mantha Trade: Jakob Vrana: traded for 7th rd pick and Dylan McLaughlin 2021 1st round pick: Sebastian Cossa 2022 2nd round pick: Dmitri Buchelnikov Richard Panik: traded with a 2nd round pick for Nick Leddy...who was later traded with Luke Witkowski for another 2nd round pick + Oskar Sundqvist + Jake Walman So basically, the assets from Mantha got the Wings: Cossa, Buchelnikov, Walman, Sundqvist, McLaughlin and a 2nd and 7th round pick this summer. And the Caps got Mantha and his whopping 55 points since the trade. Still a big win for Steve.. Edited March 3, 2023 by Axl Foley 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 763 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, redw1ngs said: Or we could of kept him for the rest of this season actually played him and up his value before trading him this summer. Worst case he doesnt up his value at all and you still get the same return from Stl or some other team this summer. Horrible mismanagement on the person/player/asset imo. Who knows who in the locker room he may have a beef with... coulda banged someone's wife, etc. That they wanted him gone from the room is all we need to know. They valued having him gone paying half his salary and getting a 7th vs attempting to pop his value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, mackel said: Who knows who in the locker room he may have a beef with... coulda banged someone's wife, etc. That they wanted him gone from the room is all we need to know. They valued having him gone paying half his salary and getting a 7th vs attempting to pop his value. There's a statement from Tom Wilson back when Vrana entered the league. He basically says Jakub is a party animal and hes worried about him. So this is more than likely a substance abuse issue. He probably went through PAP and relapsed right away. Stevie saw what happened to Probie and Dmac and doesnt want that around his team. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 660 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 Sunqvist is supposedly on his way to Minnesota Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 What is going on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck Murray 8 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) James van Riemsdyk trade from Flyers to Red Wings falls apart before deadline (sportsnet.ca) No big loss here, expiring contract, player has seen his best days, etc. Edited March 3, 2023 by Chuck Murray Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Chuck Murray said: James van Riemsdyk trade from Flyers to Red Wings falls apart before deadline (sportsnet.ca) No big loss here, expiring contract, player has seen his best days, etc. JVR to Detroit never made any sense, Pretty sure Yzerman wanted to acquire him and then flip him for more assets to another team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 Husso to Toronto for Voit and 1st. Should hit soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 Im sorry, but this is an F for Yzerman. We need A LOT more than 4ths, 7ths, and 1sts from contenders. 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Im sorry, but this is an F for Yzerman. We need A LOT more than 4ths, 7ths, and 1sts from contenders. Team will be easier on the eyes now that Bert and Sunny r gone 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 763 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Im sorry, but this is an F for Yzerman. We need A LOT more than 4ths, 7ths, and 1sts from contenders. He got above market value on Hronek and Bert. Market value for Sunny... he also got something for a guy they couldn't give away and were going to buy out putting an extra year on the cap hit. The returns may not meet your homer overvaluation of the players traded but these trades were made in the real world. 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 2 hours ago, mackel said: He got above market value on Hronek and Bert. Market value for Sunny... he also got something for a guy they couldn't give away and were going to buy out putting an extra year on the cap hit. The returns may not meet your homer overvaluation of the players traded but these trades were made in the real world. The same real world where we suck. I get it. I want to see us get better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: The same real world where we suck. I get it. I want to see us get better. acquisitions will do that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 13 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: The Vrana situation stings really bad. But we have to accept it. Yzerman took a gamble and it didnt pay off. Our rebuild gets a hell of a lot longer now. Im deflated with this team again now. It does suck, but I'd still do it all over again. Mantha has been brutal on Washington often being a healthy scratch, so the way I look at it is we got Cossa for Mantha. IMO it went from being a steal to just a win. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, kliq said: It does suck, but I'd still do it all over again. Mantha has been brutal on Washington often being a healthy scratch, so the way I look at it is we got Cossa for Mantha. IMO it went from being a steal to just a win. welcome back, brother 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,124 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) So heading into the next 2 years we have the following picks 2023. 2024 2 1st unless the Islanders slip big. 2 1sts dependent on where Boston falls to in 2024 3 2nd 1 2nd, 3rd 1 3rd's 2 4th 2 4th's 1 5,6,7 1 in 5,6,7 Correct me if I am wrong but this year's draft is deeeeep. We are currently sitting 10th from bottom so have a chance @ #1(A guy can dream but we know the midget will f us over). Plus potential for the Islanders pick to be a top 20 this year. Worst case we could get 3 1sts in 2024. Could this be our 1989 draft redux ....Lids @ 53, Federov @ 74, Vald @ 221? So with a red tint on the glasses we could see Bernard BEDARD@ 1 , XX @12, XXX in 2nd, XXXX in 2nd, XXXXX in 2nd. PLUS the ones coming out of AHL trying to win a job I know I have my red tinted glasses on but I am feeling optimistic for the first time since the Ottawa debacle. Edited March 4, 2023 by AtlantaHotWings misspell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 42 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: So heading into the next 2 years we have the following picks 2023. 2024 2 1st unless the Islanders slip big. 2 1sts dependent on where Boston falls to in 2024 3 2nd 1 2nd, 3rd 1 3rd's 2 4th 2 4th's 1 5,6,7 1 in 5,6,7 Correct me if I am wrong but this year's draft is deeeeep. We are currently sitting 10th from bottom so have a chance @ #1(A guy can dream but we know the midget will f us over). Plus potential for the Islanders pick to be a top 20 this year. Worst case we could get 3 1sts in 2024. Could this be our 1989 draft redux ....Lids @ 53, Federov @ 74, Vald @ 221? So with a red tint on the glasses we could see Bernard @ 1 , XX @12, XXX in 2nd, XXXX in 2nd, XXXXX in 2nd. PLUS the ones coming out of AHL trying to win a job I know I have my red tinted glasses on but I am feeling optimistic for the first time since the Ottawa debacle. If we get the number 1 pick and take Bernard, I will be PISSED! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redw1ngs 149 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If we get the number 1 pick and take Bernard, I will be PISSED! Nobody in there right mind would ever trade the Bedard pick would love to hear your big brain plan tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,124 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If we get the number 1 pick and take Bernard, I will be PISSED! God forbid I mistype before my 2nd cup of coffee....BEDARD...still going to be pissed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, AtlantaHotWings said: God forbid I mistype before my 2nd cup of coffee....BEDARD...still going to be pissed? Im kidding! it just made me laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
