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12/2 GDT - Red Wings @ Canadiens (7:00 PM EST)

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Buffalo and Toronto are both under right now versus Carolina and Boston respectively. With Tampa on a losing streak, a win tonight could start to create some seperation between us and teh teams below the playoff mark.

The Wings are right now the second highest scoring team in the league behind only Vancouver. ******* awesome.

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5 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

Buffalo and Toronto are both under right now versus Carolina and Boston respectively. With Tampa on a losing streak, a win tonight could start to create some seperation between us and teh teams below the playoff mark.

The Wings are right now the second highest scoring team in the league behind only Vancouver. ******* awesome.

Gotta not pizz 2nites game away first wha 

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6 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Is it just me or has Husso pretty much been crap for his whole Wings tenure thus far?

We need to ride Lyon.

He has his moments but for a 6-3 210lb goalie he always look so small out there. 

Riding Lyon is also terrifying in a way.

 

 

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I don’t know what else you can do with the goaltending except ride Lyon. I’d give him 3 out of every 5 starts, give Husso the other 2, and look for a better solution in the offseason. There are so many teams in need of goaltending that to get a decent goalie via trade you’re gonna pay a premium. 

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12 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Yowza, that was closer than necessary but I'll take it. Huge two points given that Florida, Toronto, and Tampa all got beat tonight.

We sit in 3rd currently 

1 point behind FL with game in hand on them 

and 

1 point ahead of Laughs who have a game in hand on us

we need to keep rolling and pray Kane gives us more offense and that someone does some voodoo and steals some of Roys soul and puts it into Husso 

we need better between the pipes to make it into the dance

 

 

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24 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

We sit in 3rd currently 

1 point behind FL with game in hand on them 

and 

1 point ahead of Laughs who have a game in hand on us

we need to keep rolling and pray Kane gives us more offense and that someone does some voodoo and steals some of Roys soul and puts it into Husso 

we need better between the pipes to make it into the dance

 

 

I agree with some of this. We have a top five offense in the league, so goals aren't really our problem. Now, if Kane can make our powerplay better and we start putting other teams on their heels earlier in games then I'm all for it.

But the bigger problems as I see it are:

1. Our defense. Holy smokes does our defense suck. Seider and Walman have been a trash first pair this year and the rest of the defense (except Gostisbehere) has been worse. I like a lot of those guys on the 3rd pair, but none of Maatta, Chiarot, Petry, or Holl should play in the top four. We get pinned in our zone A LOT. What happened to the Mo Seider that used to demolish guys with his physical play and toy with the opposition when he had the puck on his stick? He's obviously still a good defenseman but he has not really progressed since his rookie season.

2. Figure out the goalie situation. How does it make sense to carry 3 goalies on your roster and then not play one of them (perhaps the best one) for 17 games? What was the point of that? It would be like going 11 forwards and 7 defensemen and then not playing your 7th defenseman. And then when you finally do play him your realize he's better than your other six defensemen. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Go with Lyon and Husso (I've detailed how I'd use them in a previous post) and get one of Berggren or Mazur or Sodorblom into the lineup full time. This is stupid.

3. Stop. Taking. Stupid. Penalties. These are killing us. Of the teams currently sitting in a playoff spot we're one of the most penalized. That's not gonna bode well when we're consistently playing teams better than Montreal. I don't mind penalties that result from setting a physical tone, or defending a guy, or whatever. But stick penalties, particularly when you're chasing the play, are a killer. This needs fixed.

4. Maybe the biggest thing, we need to learn how to play 60 full minutes. We're horrid to start every game and we're abysmal at the end. The numbers back this up too. We score almost all of our (nearly league best) goals in the 2nd period and then fall apart in the 3rd. We need to play a consistent game. This one I blame on coaching. Last night we changed our forecheck to a more conservative 1-2-2 setup in the 3rd and almost blew the game. Our team is an attacking team and when Lalonde asks them to lay back they struggle.

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2 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I agree with some of this. We have a top five offense in the league, so goals aren't really our problem. Now, if Kane can make our powerplay better and we start putting other teams on their heels earlier in games then I'm all for it.

But the bigger problems as I see it are:

1. Our defense. Holy smokes does our defense suck. Seider and Walman have been a trash first pair this year and the rest of the defense (except Gostisbehere) has been worse. I like a lot of those guys on the 3rd pair, but none of Maatta, Chiarot, Petry, or Holl should play in the top four. We get pinned in our zone A LOT. What happened to the Mo Seider that used to demolish guys with his physical play and toy with the opposition when he had the puck on his stick? He's obviously still a good defenseman but he has not really progressed since his rookie season.

2. Figure out the goalie situation. How does it make sense to carry 3 goalies on your roster and then not play one of them (perhaps the best one) for 17 games? What was the point of that? It would be like going 11 forwards and 7 defensemen and then not playing your 7th defenseman. And then when you finally do play him your realize he's better than your other six defensemen. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Go with Lyon and Husso (I've detailed how I'd use them in a previous post) and get one of Berggren or Mazur or Sodorblom into the lineup full time. This is stupid.

3. Stop. Taking. Stupid. Penalties. These are killing us. Of the teams currently sitting in a playoff spot we're one of the most penalized. That's not gonna bode well when we're consistently playing teams better than Montreal. I don't mind penalties that result from setting a physical tone, or defending a guy, or whatever. But stick penalties, particularly when you're chasing the play, are a killer. This needs fixed.

4. Maybe the biggest thing, we need to learn how to play 60 full minutes. We're horrid to start every game and we're abysmal at the end. The numbers back this up too. We score almost all of our (nearly league best) goals in the 2nd period and then fall apart in the 3rd. We need to play a consistent game. This one I blame on coaching. Last night we changed our forecheck to a more conservative 1-2-2 setup in the 3rd and almost blew the game. Our team is an attacking team and when Lalonde asks them to lay back they struggle.

1. Derek went into detail about Mo this offseason, explaining that they are working on simplifying his game, and him playing more efficently to "control the ice". In other words, Derek is ruining our stud Dman perhaps even worse than Blash ever could. You do not coach players like Datsyuk and Seider. You let them play their game. Reeling in Seider is the worst thing you can do. He is bull in a china shop and you have to let him wreck that shop. Furthermore, i agree that wal-mo has not had the same spark as last year. BREAK THEM UP DEREK YOU ******* MORON AFRAID OF CHANGE. Its like Chia-Mo from last year all over again and its infuriating. Just try Ghost-Mo on the first pair once my god please. DEREK IS A GREAT COACH.

2. R I D E T H E L Y O N it took lolande over a month to realize yzerman gifted him a 3rd option in net. DEREK IS A GREAT COACH. I LOVE DEREK.

3.The non-tough team from wheel town is also undisciplined? Haha great coaching Derek! 

4. Well you cant blame a coach for a teams poor consistency. Just stick it in there Derek. Dont bother with lube.

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