2024 Pre-Season Thread

[Axl Foley 334]

Talbot looked good last night. With him and Lyon, I am not at all concerned about what happens with Husso. Although 3 healthy goalies, who are playing well, makes idt possible to trade one before the TDL without hurting our playoff chances.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

1 hour ago, Akakabuto said:

Uncle Gary projects the cap next season to be at 92.5m. That gives us about 18m in cap space.

Abdelkader and Yamamoto buyout and retention off the books. Berggren is the only RFA.

Another step in the Yzerplan. 

Chiarot 4.7 million.  

[Akakabuto 1,842]

57 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Chiarot 4.7 million.  

Still on for next year. 

[Axl Foley 334]

3 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

Still on for next year. 

And when his contract is up, someone like ASP will be ready to step in and take his place. That is how it works.

[Jimmybigrigs69 367]

5 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

Uncle Gary projects the cap next season to be at 92.5m. That gives us about 18m in cap space.

Abdelkader and Yamamoto buyout and retention off the books. Berggren is the only RFA.

Another step in the Yzerplan. 

Bye bye Motte, Fischer, Maata, Petry, and Husso. Re-sign Kane and Lyon. Promote Kasper, Mazur, Danielson, and Wallinder. Maybe swap Cossa and Lyon between DET and GR. 

*tents fingers aggressively*

"Interesting"

[Jimmybigrigs69 367]

Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond

Tarasenko - Kasper - Kane

Berggren - Danielson - Compher

Mazur - Copp - Rasmussen 

Veleno

 

Chiarot - Seider

Edvinsson - Gustafsson 

Johansson - Holl

Wallinder

 

Talbot

Cossa

Lyon

 

Would we even need to add to that lineup? Just save the money for the TDL and... take another step in the yzerplan

Edited October 4, 2024 by Jimmybigrigs69

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

1 hour ago, Axl Foley said:

And when his contract is up, someone like ASP will be ready to step in and take his place. That is how it works.

Fantasy land Axl back at it.  In his brain, we're in the middle of a 9-peat.  Can leave all our prospects in lower leagues due to the recent massive run of success.  In fact, lets send Seider and Raymond back to GR and extend Petry and Chiarot.

[AtlantaHotWings 1,124]

Hope he gets straightened out

Sportsnet

 

Jack Campbell has entered the NHL/NHLPA Player Assistance Program and will be away from the Red Wings for an indefinite period of time.

[Axl Foley 334]

1 hour ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Fantasy land Axl back at it.  In his brain, we're in the middle of a 9-peat.  Can leave all our prospects in lower leagues due to the recent massive run of success.  In fact, lets send Seider and Raymond back to GR and extend Petry and Chiarot.

I would not consider Prospect development as a Fantasy Land. 

28 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

Hope he gets straightened out

Sportsnet

 

Jack Campbell has entered the NHL/NHLPA Player Assistance Program and will be away from the Red Wings for an indefinite period of time.

I guess that means Husso gets sent down?

2 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond

Tarasenko - Kasper - Kane

Berggren - Danielson - Compher

Mazur - Copp - Rasmussen 

Veleno

 

Chiarot - Seider

Edvinsson - Gustafsson 

Johansson - Holl

Wallinder

 

Talbot

Cossa

Lyon

 

Would we even need to add to that lineup? Just save the money for the TDL and... take another step in the yzerplan

I dont think you let both Motte and Fischer go. They are cheap vets that do the dirty work.

[town123 231]

Any line combos listed for tonight?

[Jimmybigrigs69 367]

1 hour ago, Axl Foley said:

I would not consider Prospect development as a Fantasy Land. 

I guess that means Husso gets sent down?

I dont think you let both Motte and Fischer go. They are cheap vets that do the dirty work.

We have Gylander and Gage and Bednar and Lethemon in Toledo 

[kipwinger 8,754]

Marco with two in the first period. You love to see it.
 

 

[Rick D 390]

I missed the first 2 periods. I hear there was some rough stuff??

[AtlantaHotWings 1,124]

Looks like Watson got involved of course no videos on ESPN ..

Edited October 5, 2024 by AtlantaHotWings

[kipwinger 8,754]

All game long, very chippy. Watson came to Seider’s aid and wiped out some fool and dragged him around the ice. Then Edvinsson stepped into a guy really hard then ragdolled a teammate when the dude tried to fight him.

[Axl Foley 334]

Kasper looks like he is clicking. Not a large sample size, but at this point I would put him on the roster and put Austin in GR.

[AtlantaHotWings 1,124]

That was a disappointing end 

 

 

[Rick D 390]

Sure was a lot of contact for that to not be called interference. 

[mackel 763]

1 minute ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

That was a disappointing end 

 

 

We should have been up 5 goals with all that PP time.  I reckon we'll have a new coach by US Thanksgiving. 

[Jimmybigrigs69 367]

13 hours ago, kipwinger said:

All game long, very chippy. Watson came to Seider’s aid and wiped out some fool and dragged him around the ice. Then Edvinsson stepped into a guy really hard then ragdolled a teammate when the dude tried to fight him.

 

12 hours ago, mackel said:

We should have been up 5 goals with all that PP time.  I reckon we'll have a new coach by US Thanksgiving. 

Anyone else noticed we've ONLY won the games that Watson has played in? He's wrecking shop out there. 

This lineup severely lacks any sort of toughness outside of the physical dominance of Mo and Edvinsson just being plain massive. You'd think this would be a missing element that Derek and Steve would like to find and add, which I assume is why he's here.

Now I know what you're gonna say: But look how Derek played Kostin... All I'll say to that is, I suspect there was more going on with Kostin than just "Derek not liking bruisers". Trading Kostin for Simek - a guy who was making way too much money to be playing in the AHL - and 7th at the TDL was beyond strange. Steve didn't need Simek or the 7th. I suspect he was simply unloading a bad character in the room. Verbeek gets to unload cash in Simek and gets a 24 year old troubled project piece in Kostin, and in return Stevie gets a measly 7th... but also cuts out the weakest cancer prior to a potential playoff run. Probably a nod to the teams leaders that he hears their concerns and is behind them, but it's not part of the plan to BUYBUYBUY right now. And of course he would go on to cut fabbri and walman out for nothing a few months later, probably for the same reasons

Think about how Kostin came to us as well. Holland said here you can have Kostin and Yammoto for free. He did that for cap space, but Yammoto was a majorly undersized scorer, who wasn't scoring, @ $3.1 million. Kostin was 2 years younger than him, also a former 1st rounder, big, nasty, and just had his first good season. Holland could have chose a number of other guys to package Yammoto with, but he prefered to get rid of Kostin.

And now Kostin is on 4th team after 4 years in the league... He's being passed around like a hot potato with an IED made out of aids inside of it. 

Kostin was also a 24 year old former 1st when he got here, who probably wanted a chance to prove himself and crack a top6. So he may not have been exactly happy to be relegated to 4th-line/13th-forward.

Watson on the other hand, he's 32 and he's been doing this for years. He knows his role, and he's BETTER at it than Kostin. He fights more than Kostin does, and he actually blocks shots and defends. His forechecking this preason has been to my liking as well.

bUt JiMmY iF kOsTin iS CAnCer sO iS wATsOn, hE BeAT uP hiS GiRLfRieND

Watson was arrested at a Tennessee gas station after witnesses reported an alteraction between him and his girlfriend. The altercation began because the couple were on their way to a teammates wedding, and Watson's girlfriend was already so wasted that she didn't want to go anymore. Imagine missing your teammates wedding because your date is too drunk AND YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE WEDDING YET. Nevertheless, Watson, who was sober, admitted to responding officers that he "pushed" his girl and was thus arrested for domestic violence. That girlfriend afterwards issued an apology to the city of Nashville, stating that the entire incident was her fault, there was no domestic violence, and Watson had never abused her, and that she had a serious drinking problem. She later entered AA and Watson and she are now married. 

TLDR: I think we should sign this guy.

How we work him onto the roster at this point IDK, but he said in interviews he's seeking a 1-way contract. It's not an ideal time to explore a trade either. I think Kasper and Edvinsson HAVE to start the season in GR. 

DCat - Larkin - Ray

Tarasenko - JTC - Kane

Ras - Copp - Fischer

Berggren - Veleno - Watson

Motte

Chiarot - Seider

Gustafsson - Petry

Maata - Holl

AJo

Husso/Lyon/Talbot

And that's our 23 man roster to start the season. Kasper and Edvinsson can come up and fill in as soon as the injuries kick in. We would be incredibly deep, and injuries would almost be a complete non-factor with the talent from GR we can inject in. By Christmas we will have a good idea of who want to move out, and what we need to bring in, whether that's outside help or clearing space for Kasper and Ed. 

 

Edited October 5, 2024 by Jimmybigrigs69

[Jimmybigrigs69 367]

For anyone who missed it, this is probably the best Wings clip in years:

Big clean hit, then Simon being completely uninterested in beating up a Sens midget. Almost an annoyed "ok calm down little boy" look.

Edited October 5, 2024 by Jimmybigrigs69

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

2 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

 

Anyone else noticed we've ONLY won the games that Watson has played in? He's wrecking shop out there. 

This lineup severely lacks any sort of toughness outside of the physical dominance of Mo and Edvinsson just being plain massive. You'd think this would be a missing element that Derek and Steve would like to find and add, which I assume is why he's here.

Now I know what you're gonna say: But look how Derek played Kostin... All I'll say to that is, I suspect there was more going on with Kostin than just "Derek not liking bruisers". Trading Kostin for Simek - a guy who was making way too much money to be playing in the AHL - and 7th at the TDL was beyond strange. Steve didn't need Simek or the 7th. I suspect he was simply unloading a bad character in the room. Verbeek gets to unload cash in Simek and gets a 24 year old troubled project piece in Kostin, and in return Stevie gets a measly 7th... but also cuts out the weakest cancer prior to a potential playoff run. Probably a nod to the teams leaders that he hears their concerns and is behind them, but it's not part of the plan to BUYBUYBUY right now. And of course he would go on to cut fabbri and walman out for nothing a few months later, probably for the same reasons

Think about how Kostin came to us as well. Holland said here you can have Kostin and Yammoto for free. He did that for cap space, but Yammoto was a majorly undersized scorer, who wasn't scoring, @ $3.1 million. Kostin was 2 years younger than him, also a former 1st rounder, big, nasty, and just had his first good season. Holland could have chose a number of other guys to package Yammoto with, but he prefered to get rid of Kostin.

And now Kostin is on 4th team after 4 years in the league... He's being passed around like a hot potato with an IED made out of aids inside of it. 

Kostin was also a 24 year old former 1st when he got here, who probably wanted a chance to prove himself and crack a top6. So he may not have been exactly happy to be relegated to 4th-line/13th-forward.

Watson on the other hand, he's 32 and he's been doing this for years. He knows his role, and he's BETTER at it than Kostin. He fights more than Kostin does, and he actually blocks shots and defends. His forechecking this preason has been to my liking as well.

bUt JiMmY iF kOsTin iS CAnCer sO iS wATsOn, hE BeAT uP hiS GiRLfRieND

Watson was arrested at a Tennessee gas station after witnesses reported an alteraction between him and his girlfriend. The altercation began because the couple were on their way to a teammates wedding, and Watson's girlfriend was already so wasted that she didn't want to go anymore. Imagine missing your teammates wedding because your date is too drunk AND YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE WEDDING YET. Nevertheless, Watson, who was sober, admitted to responding officers that he "pushed" his girl and was thus arrested for domestic violence. That girlfriend afterwards issued an apology to the city of Nashville, stating that the entire incident was her fault, there was no domestic violence, and Watson had never abused her, and that she had a serious drinking problem. She later entered AA and Watson and she are now married. 

TLDR: I think we should sign this guy.

How we work him onto the roster at this point IDK, but he said in interviews he's seeking a 1-way contract. It's not an ideal time to explore a trade either. I think Kasper and Edvinsson HAVE to start the season in GR. 

DCat - Larkin - Ray

Tarasenko - JTC - Kane

Ras - Copp - Fischer

Berggren - Veleno - Watson

Motte

Chiarot - Seider

Gustafsson - Petry

Maata - Holl

AJo

Husso/Lyon/Talbot

And that's our 23 man roster to start the season. Kasper and Edvinsson can come up and fill in as soon as the injuries kick in. We would be incredibly deep, and injuries would almost be a complete non-factor with the talent from GR we can inject in. By Christmas we will have a good idea of who want to move out, and what we need to bring in, whether that's outside help or clearing space for Kasper and Ed. 

 

Im going to pretend like u didnt say this.

[AtlantaHotWings 1,124]

Husso is looking pretty decent tonight

I did tune in at the start of the 2nd

He faced 15 shots in 2nd and gave up only 1. Could he be back and give us solid not exceptional goaltending? 

[mackel 763]

11 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

 

Anyone else noticed we've ONLY won the games that Watson has played in? He's wrecking shop out there. 

This lineup severely lacks any sort of toughness outside of the physical dominance of Mo and Edvinsson just being plain massive. You'd think this would be a missing element that Derek and Steve would like to find and add, which I assume is why he's here.

Now I know what you're gonna say: But look how Derek played Kostin... All I'll say to that is, I suspect there was more going on with Kostin than just "Derek not liking bruisers". Trading Kostin for Simek - a guy who was making way too much money to be playing in the AHL - and 7th at the TDL was beyond strange. Steve didn't need Simek or the 7th. I suspect he was simply unloading a bad character in the room. Verbeek gets to unload cash in Simek and gets a 24 year old troubled project piece in Kostin, and in return Stevie gets a measly 7th... but also cuts out the weakest cancer prior to a potential playoff run. Probably a nod to the teams leaders that he hears their concerns and is behind them, but it's not part of the plan to BUYBUYBUY right now. And of course he would go on to cut fabbri and walman out for nothing a few months later, probably for the same reasons

Think about how Kostin came to us as well. Holland said here you can have Kostin and Yammoto for free. He did that for cap space, but Yammoto was a majorly undersized scorer, who wasn't scoring, @ $3.1 million. Kostin was 2 years younger than him, also a former 1st rounder, big, nasty, and just had his first good season. Holland could have chose a number of other guys to package Yammoto with, but he prefered to get rid of Kostin.

And now Kostin is on 4th team after 4 years in the league... He's being passed around like a hot potato with an IED made out of aids inside of it. 

Kostin was also a 24 year old former 1st when he got here, who probably wanted a chance to prove himself and crack a top6. So he may not have been exactly happy to be relegated to 4th-line/13th-forward.

Watson on the other hand, he's 32 and he's been doing this for years. He knows his role, and he's BETTER at it than Kostin. He fights more than Kostin does, and he actually blocks shots and defends. His forechecking this preason has been to my liking as well.

bUt JiMmY iF kOsTin iS CAnCer sO iS wATsOn, hE BeAT uP hiS GiRLfRieND

Watson was arrested at a Tennessee gas station after witnesses reported an alteraction between him and his girlfriend. The altercation began because the couple were on their way to a teammates wedding, and Watson's girlfriend was already so wasted that she didn't want to go anymore. Imagine missing your teammates wedding because your date is too drunk AND YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE WEDDING YET. Nevertheless, Watson, who was sober, admitted to responding officers that he "pushed" his girl and was thus arrested for domestic violence. That girlfriend afterwards issued an apology to the city of Nashville, stating that the entire incident was her fault, there was no domestic violence, and Watson had never abused her, and that she had a serious drinking problem. She later entered AA and Watson and she are now married. 

TLDR: I think we should sign this guy.

How we work him onto the roster at this point IDK, but he said in interviews he's seeking a 1-way contract. It's not an ideal time to explore a trade either. I think Kasper and Edvinsson HAVE to start the season in GR. 

DCat - Larkin - Ray

Tarasenko - JTC - Kane

Ras - Copp - Fischer

Berggren - Veleno - Watson

Motte

Chiarot - Seider

Gustafsson - Petry

Maata - Holl

AJo

Husso/Lyon/Talbot

And that's our 23 man roster to start the season. Kasper and Edvinsson can come up and fill in as soon as the injuries kick in. We would be incredibly deep, and injuries would almost be a complete non-factor with the talent from GR we can inject in. By Christmas we will have a good idea of who want to move out, and what we need to bring in, whether that's outside help or clearing space for Kasper and Ed. 

 

Ed isn't going to start in the AHL so we can add a 32 year old grocery stick.

[Jimmybigrigs69 367]

3 hours ago, mackel said:

Ed isn't going to start in the AHL so we can add a 32 year old grocery stick.

You should watch Newsy's last interview. GR is only 2 hours away. "It's not a big deal 'who makes the the team'"