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#2325141 What do you consider a fair CBA?

Posted by dirtydangles on 14 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

I think the RFA years should last only until 25. People are forced to play out a better portion of their career on a team and city that they may not be in love with. And if you don't like it then you can just be shelved long term (you don't have to be traded) whereas in the normal workforce you can quit and look for new work.

I think there SHOULD be a limit on contract lengths. If you break down the average player's career there is an ideal max length of around 5 years.
18-23: gives GMs 2 RFA years to hammer out a new contract for an additional 5 years.
24-29: prime years for fwds.
30-35: veteran contributor fwd. dman in prime.
36-41: twilight of career.
If you consider the general scheme of player development and contribution, it makes sense to have contracts max out at around 5 years. This way you don't get players in the twilight of their career being paid to play as a prime fwd. Then you don't have stupid situations where teams can't compete years down the road due to a stupid contract given out by a previous GM years ago that cap strapped the team (and could cause them to dip into revenue sharing).

There should be a soft cap of +2mill on the ceiling that allows for teams to have some wiggle room in re-signing their talent (however twice this amount must be paid into revenue sharing) and you cannot use the soft cap in 3 consecutive years.

35+ contracts should be dealt with on a case by case basis. There should be a vote among GMs as to whether or not a team should pay for a player's cap hit depending on the contract situation. Say you signed a 35 year old to a 2 year contract in good faith and he was levelled by Chara and had a career ending concussion. That team shouldn't have to pay the cap hit for those 2 years as the contract was reasonable and the injury was not likely caused by his age. However if a team signs a 35 year old with a history of knee problems to a 5 year deal and he has set backs and cannot play anymore, the team should have known better and would be responsible for the risk they took when attempting to acquire that player. This is a system where GMs will keep each other honest and prevents GMs from using contract length to outbid other GMs.

Owners and players should split the revenue 50/50 and call it even for good. You can't have hockey without one or the other. It sucks, but this should just be dealt with now so that this doesn't happen again.


#2324456 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by dirtydangles on 09 August 2012 - 02:17 PM

if he moves fil im gonna be so pissed. we NEED fil for the next transition phase.


#2324138 Our current forwards.

Posted by dirtydangles on 07 August 2012 - 09:42 AM

Id rather have a bunch of 20 goal scorers than one 40 goal guy. Its hard to shut down consistent team scoring - one 40 goal guy can be shut down. This is especially true in the playoffs where those guys take a punishment. I don't think our depth was good enough to compete against the preds this playoffs but I think we improved our scoring depth this offseason and we have a lot of guys that have 15-25 goal potential, so even if one goes cold we are still okay.


#2324127 Red Wings Sign Jurco to Entry Level Contract

Posted by dirtydangles on 07 August 2012 - 08:21 AM

in a couple years bert and sammy will be off the books in addition to cleary likely being gone. At that time I expect to see some prospects make the jump. lets hope jurco is ready by then.


#2323982 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by dirtydangles on 06 August 2012 - 10:35 AM

This is one trade that we should most definitely not be overpaying on. JBo is solid but not elite and not worth overpayment. Id be happy to have him if it doesnt hurt the team bu acquiring him. Our top assets should only be used to acquire elite players as we dont exactly have a plethora of tradeable assets right now.


#2321179 Visnovsky files NHLPA grievance to void NYI trade

Posted by dirtydangles on 23 July 2012 - 01:16 PM

1 year deal isn't too risky. still at age 35 and being 5 10' LH shot, we don't really need that rather than giving up a second that could be used to draft guys like ouellet and sproul


#2320266 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by dirtydangles on 19 July 2012 - 10:30 AM

holmgrem is a studf****** muffin. I was pissed at first, but god dammit the guy is a genius. This could come back to haunt him if he has his own RFAs to handle but god, the front loaded deal that was so much money up front was genius. The preds can't afford that even though the rest of the contract is affordable in terms of cap hit. This is genius. If Holland did this I'd be saying the same thing. It wasn't a "gentleman's" move but man can this guy bring talent to his team.


#2319771 Should Pav and Z play on the same line for the majority of this season

Posted by dirtydangles on 18 July 2012 - 12:30 PM

Z was a 40 goal scorer playing wing. Fil is good on wing but doesn't have the same sniping/scoring ability that Z has. With Fil really coming into his own and seeing him protect the puck the way he does, I fully support moving Z to Dats' wing. Also consider that with Z and Dats together they don't have to carry separate lines and can probably stay healthier due to less stress of having each other. We have the pieces already without a trade to make this work imo. I just think with dats wrist and Z's back putting them together makes sense. Fil will have to become a top 6 centre eventually when they retire so might as well make it happen now.

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Brunner
Nyquist-Filppula-Franzen
Cleary-Helm-Sammy
Bertuzzi-Abdelkader-Tootoo

Note that eaves, miller, emmerton, mursak are all out. This kinda sucks. The second line could be VERY good if Nyquist is what we all think he is. Flip Sammy and Brunner if Brunner doesn't produce.

With Semin:

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Semin
Nyquist-Filppula-Franzen
Cleary-Helm-Sammy
Bertuzzi-Abdelkader-Tootoo

Jesus we just have too many forwards. Honestly think we are looking to trade at some point. It just doesn't add up. Kenny won't sit one of Sammy/Bert/Cleary/Brunner and he def won't go into the season with both Eaves, Miller on the pine.


#2319414 Semin

Posted by dirtydangles on 16 July 2012 - 09:47 AM

But there could be the fear that he'll play for a year under contract, and if he doesn't like it then he bolts to the KHL where he doesn't have to work as hard, and the Wings (or whoever signed him) lose him for nothing.

True but its not like we are giving assets to acquire him. If he bolts he bolts and we dont have to get rid of his contract or pay him if it doesnt work.


#2318539 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by dirtydangles on 12 July 2012 - 09:46 AM

My concern is it just seems like holland wants us to slip into the playoffs and then win it somehow ala LA. but we don't have the quality underachieving players they do that can turn it on in the playoffs possibly. Holland wants this team to make the playoffs every year it possibly can rather than trying to make changes to have it win, but possibly weaken it for the short term. Seems like he's buying into the idea that any team can win in the playoffs.


#2318082 Six teams on Nash's trade "list", none Canadian

Posted by dirtydangles on 11 July 2012 - 07:34 AM

Nash is already 28 years old. If this goes another year he will be 29. He's only 3 years younger than Zetterberg and everyone on hfboards considers Z to be "aging." Furthermore he is a star "winger," these are less valuable than star dmen or centres as they don't have as much 2 way play or bang for their buck especially if they have a cold streak scoring. If we give up major youth and a talented roster player we only get 3 more years of Nash than we will Z and power forwards usually slow down earlier than most positions. I just don't see how this is viable for the future considering we will give up a lot of young assets that won't be able to fill future holes in the lineup.

I would consider Ryan to be a long term, better solution. I don't even know if the asking price is as crazy as Nash's but even if it is I would rather pay it for Ryan. The contract is better, he's only 25, has a RH shot and can play centre from time to time. This is a long term solution that would make it hurt less to lose some prospects as Ryan would potentially be around for another 10 years or so.

Just my thoughts. Oh and lol at the leafs.


#2317627 Rumor/Report: Semin to sign 1yr deal with Pens

Posted by dirtydangles on 10 July 2012 - 08:48 AM

Holland is f*cking doped up if he didn't go for semin with a one year deal. what else was he going to use the cap space for? it would be there next offseason with a one year deal. lets hope this is all bulls***.


#2317368 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by dirtydangles on 09 July 2012 - 03:28 PM

A lot of you guys are in denial it seems. You speak as if Z and Dats were in their 20's still. They're aging forwards who will NEVER put up the numbers they once had, so don't expect them to.

Can you last remember when a team with a core of mid 30 year olds won a cup?

Without a talented youth injection, there is zero hope for us. This is simply not a playoff team.

THIS. I just wonder what it would take for everyone to lose faith in holland? Still so many people defend him tirelessly but I would be interested to know what it holland would have to do to lose your faith? Im really shaky right now, I'm hoping this is as bad as it gets and we will see an upturn but if it gets much worse I may have to go out and buy a pitchfork.


#2317356 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by dirtydangles on 09 July 2012 - 02:50 PM

The only thing that bothers me about this roster is that Kenny will HAVE to eventually make a trade or we will have no Tatar up next season likely and no other forward prospects will get looks either... This is because of the deals he gave Bert, Sammy, and will likely give to Cleary. I want to bring some of our top 6 talent up from the AHL and give them a true shot next season. If that means trading Franzen for d help, letting cleary walk, or trading bertuzzi then so be it.


#2317092 An outside the box idea.

Posted by dirtydangles on 08 July 2012 - 05:50 PM

Hfboards provided this:

Michael Del Zotto might be a doable option. If we can agree to terms ahead of time with MDZ I think we could trade Franzen and Kindl or a pick for him if he signs long term with us. Would be a good young dman that fills a need and would for sure be a top 4 for many years. 6 foot 22 years old LH shot. Doesn't fit in as well as a RH dman.

This is the second option: Franzen for McIlrath + 2nd. This kid is huge 6foot 5 and 212lbs. RH shot. 20 yrs old. Could be ready in a year or even this year.

Ideas?