I just wanted to point out that for many ppl here this isn't really about hatred towards Crosby, but about being fed up with all the indoctrination how he's the real son of a god (and Jesus was just some beta version of Sindy), because it is overwhelming. and the very reason of this discussion is not Crosby himself but how Canadian media behave...
Not really familiar with Canadian media/sports media practices in general, but you can probably just simply just say media is overhyping.
Because it's the same way here with media on certain athletes whether it's the NFL or NBA, or political news, whatever.
True I don't like Crosby much, but very little of it has to do actually with playing them in the Cup Finals two years in a row. I don't really get too much into sports rivalries/hating teams in that sense, I pretty much just want my team to win, it's Crosby's persona on the ice primarily that has been outlined by people plenty in here and I don't need to rehash again which I don't like about him, fair or not.
So that gives fuel for people to say that we are "jealous" of him unfortunately, but it absolutely makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up when I or people get accused of that. Why the heck would I be jealous of his play? I already get that he's one of the best in the game today. Good on him. Some probably hate him because they simply hate Pitt or because we played them twice in a row. Cool, I perfectly get that. But pretty much with just about every person the dislike comes from the absurd over-emphasis he gets (and very few people here don't whine or be critical that a Red Wing should have attention more in the same scenario - just in general HE GETS TOO MUCH ATTENTION). Crosby probably thinks he gets too much attention.
While I'd appreciate if I got such attention, eventually I'd just be like, "Okay people, let me go about my normal routine."
But this feels more like a "He's not Hudler!" than a "Patty can do it!" kind of thing.
Eaves has a good shot and is a good skater, but he's a mediocre passer. His entire purpose would be to blast shots from the point. Think Jason Williams, but better defensively and without the passing skill.
That's why Eaves isn't on the PP.
Samuelsson was on the PP because he has a good shot, is a decent passer, and could play defensively. He wasn't a one-tool guy in that situation like Eaves would be.
Hudler is fine on the PP. He actually looked better working with Lidstrom than he ever has with Kronwall. He was the team's best player in the failed 5-minute PP against St. Louis and he regularly creates chances.
I think Lidstrom/Hudler and Kronwall/Kindl make for solid PP pairings. I'd rather see Hudler up front but Babcock has his template, and his template doesn't have room for a shifty little guy who's in the league based on skill and hard work, not physical gifts.
Because the solution to all of our scoring problems is to add defensively skilled PK forwards. Helm, Miller, Abdelkader, Emmerton, Cleary, Eaves, Filppula, Dats, and Z just can't cut it defensively.
2008-09 Jiri Hudler 26g-31a-57pt. His season last year wouldn't be considered a disappointment if not for his 2009 season. Had his 2008-09 season been similar to his previous two seasons, last year would have been "It's regular Hudler, no bigs." and people would be fine with it. Even though he'd probably have made a similar amount.
This is a relevant comparison; go ahead and look up how many forwards posted 70 points last year. About 30. The fact that Thomas is a goalie doesn't make the "he's not in the NHL, he's not an elite player" comparison invalid. The chances of Nyquist popping into the NHL and posting 70 points are so incredibly slim it's ridiculous. Is he better offensively than Franzen? Tavares? Nash? Briere? Heatley? Kovalchuk? These are some of the guys who played a full season and didn't reach the 70 point mark. It's a ridiculous suggestion, just like saying in 2005 that Thomas would win two Vezinas and a Smythe in the span of three years. Joey MacDonald has had a much better NHL career than Thomas had through 2005 - Thomas was 32 and had played 4 games at the start of the season. His career GAA and save pct. were comparable to MacDonald's current levels. MacDonald is 31, and has played 83 games. MacDonald only played one ECHL game, and has otherwise been AHL or NHL. Better than Thomas was at this age. Will he win the Vezina in four years?
I didn't say Nyquist will never hit 70 points. I said he wouldn't do it if he were inserted into the lineup right now. There are only four players on the current roster I think are/will be capable of that level over a full season, and one of them I think is too lazy and fragile to actually sustain that kind of play over a full season, so his chances of doing it are basically nil.
Thomas is a goalie. Hudler is not.
Thomas played a leading role in helping his team win a Stanley Cup. Hudler, while he certainly played a positive role in helping his team win a Stanley Cup, was in more of a secondary situation.
So again, hi Apple, I'd like you to meet Orange.
And nowhere did I mention Nyquist about anything, so I'm not sure why you are responding to me about him.