Petry's a legitimate top-four defenseman. If we're being honest, we have exactly one defenseman who's clearly better than Petry.
We (Holland) really missed the boat on Leddy and Boychuck... they would have made a great 2nd pairing here for years to come. If we're waiting for Sproul/Marchenko/Jensen to play to that level it's at least 5 yrs down the road. We need some D'men to bridge that gap now if we're going to seriously contend in the playoffs. Petry would be a great start but I think we need at least one other top 4 D too and from what I've seen up to this point Smith and Kindl should be moved to make room.
Can't we all get a long. Don't forget we already have an enforcer. Our "powerplay" damn that lines so old and tired. Next time Weber smashes Hanks head into the boards for free. Don't forget we'll get ours on the PP. Oh wait if I recall there was no call on that play. Once again we lost that year as well.
Fighting DOES have a place in the game. BUT you must be able to contribute elsewhere on the ice as well.
I will start off by saying I absolutely hate the Leafs, but the media in Toronto is absolutely a disgrace. Two coaches have been fired, mind you Wilson was not that good but when does the organization look at the culture and makeup of the team? I mean signing Phaneuf last year to that contract has destroyed that franchise right now. 7 million / 8 years for him is not good. Gardiner looks terrible, they should have sold high on him. Kadri is a decent 2nd line center, but not a top end talent / shutdown guy, and he disappears alot. Lupul never plays, he's always injured. They have Clarkson at 5.5 million doing nothing.
Phil Kessel is absolutely blamed for everything that goes wrong by the fans and media, yet he is paid to score goals and that's exactly what he does. Kessel is a PPG player, sure might not be the best defensively but that's where others need to pickup and help him. JVR is not good defensively, and isn't close to as good on offense as Kessel but he never hears anything. Kessel is always being called "out of shape" or "doesn't compete enough" but people forget, he is a PPG player, and he plays in thef****** NHL! How can you not compete enough and be out of shape when you score 35+ goals a year, and score at a PPG every year in the NHL! Would love to see him play with Hank or Datsyuk, he might push 45+ and he's an underrated passer.
This video is absolutely ridiculous. What a dumb question, and an insult.
Posted by LeftWinger
on 20 November 2014 - 04:23 PM
The fact is, we lost him for nothing. A player with potential, one of our values 3rd round picks (ones Holland refuses to trade because he finds such valuable players there.) Plus, there is no need to lose a player with untapped potential for nothing at all...especially at the price of keeping Cleary and Kindl. Both of whom bring NOTHING to the ice with them. Make Cleary a coach if he is so valuable in the locker room. Sure, Nestrasil wasn't the next Tatar or even Jurco, but why waste your valuable drafted players that are deemed SOOOOO important to rebuilding this team, just so you can keep Cleary? What next, put Pulkkinen on waivers next season just because you promised Alfredsson a spot if he wants to play? Holland screwed the pooch on this one. He screwed the pooch on Jarnkrok (although he had to) and we are out on two players with the potential to be very good players in the NHL. Doesn't matter, we have ZERO control over it, but all along 99% of us said that if we start losing kids because of Cleary and Quincey, then we would be pissed, so there is no need to ask us why we are pissed now. Weren't you guys here when Holland was quoted saying, we aren't going to keep Oullet in the lineup at the expense of Jakub Kindl. It shows right there where his loyalty is, he will risk exposing players to waivers to keep his veteran. He kept Cleary over Nestrasil, and it won't be the last time he f***s this team up....no wonder Babcock won't re-sign...
"I don't know that what's out there is any better than what we got in our system," Holland said. "Players (free agents) would be more experienced, but are they any better than (Ryan) Sproul or (Xavier) Ouellet? We got pretty good kids."
Oh but Holland DOES give out overpriced UFA contracts....see Quincey and Cleary...BOTH overpriced. Waste of money, whether he has $1M in cap space or $100M...they are BOTH grossly overpaid.
It kills me when posters cite Holland not signing all these UFAs to big deals as a good thing, and that's why we want him, when in fact, he is out there pitching the same huge deals to the UFAs as everyone else, he just keeps getting rejected. How do they conveniently ignore that? And it's not just this year! The stupidity of some of the statements in light of the facts is mind-blowing to me. Holland offers a guy the same deal or a bigger deal, guy signs with other team, and somehow we're lucky to have a GM that doesn't sign UFAs to huge deals? Seriously? I just don't even know where to start when people are so loyal that they can't begin to be even remotely objective about the realities of the situation.