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In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

16 August 2016 - 10:50 PM

Which is exactly what we did.  Traded Fleishmann and Matthias, but not Datsyuk and Homer.  So what are you complaining about?  You're advocating for the EXACT trade strategy employed by our current management.
Also, I wouldn't go touting the Fleishmann trade as if it was some kind of ideal.  We gained Lang, who underwhelmed in two seasons, and lost Fleishmann and a pick (that turned out to be Mike Green).  We'd have been MUCH better off not making that trade.  Which is EXACTLY my point.  The grass isn't always greener when trading prospects for established talent.

You're assuming....

1. That the wings would have drafted Mike Green.
2. That he would have developed in the same way in our system, which is unikely since he would likely not have made the NHL as early as he did in Washington.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

15 August 2016 - 07:51 PM

I wouldn't trade AA under any realistic circumstance. I don't even think he's scratched the surface of how good he's going to be. You don't find that combination of size, speed, and skill often. And that's not even his strongest trait. He's a very smart kid. You can tell by the way he talks about the game. About getting better. He doesn't speak in idiotic sports tropes. He's actually thinking.
That's what, IMO, separates him from a guy like Smith (or maybe even Mantha). Listen to Brendan talk sometime. He's a bonehead. All the physical gifts in the world but he will never be as good as his talent will allow because he's a dumbass.
AA is going to be very, very, good in this league. I'm calling that right now. At the very least he will be Kesler good. But I genuinely don't think its a stretch for him to be as good as Seguin is now, or Spezza was in his prime.

This Rosie outlook aside he could but Setagouchi, Cheechoo, or Barker good. Which is to say he may be playing in Europe 2-3 years from now.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

14 August 2016 - 06:37 PM

Some food for thought... this was posted in a slightly different context.

Many of us react crazily to the notion of trading AA or Mantha, etc... but we often forget you have to give to get and their is risk in making trades. Below are two links surrounding the trade of Brent Burns, the first article is from 2011 and the second from 2015. The outlook on the trade changed considerably in just 4 years. What looked like a good trade for the wild, turned out to be a major blunder. You never know with prospects and unproven players.



Bottom line for me I'd trade any player on the roster including Larkin in the right deal, even Larkin may flame out in a couple of years.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

02 August 2016 - 11:29 PM


Am I the only one who sees a pretty graph but has no clue how to read it?

In Topic: For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

04 July 2016 - 11:48 PM

If Holland traded Howard for a bag of pugs and then beat Mrazek over the head with said bag repeatedly until he ended up on IR, I would be pissed.

If this happened Holland would be in deep crap with the ASPCA first for bagging all of those pugs and secondly for using them as a weapon.... the poor pugs. For the love of God think of the pugs!!!