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#2192907 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by Bannedforlife on 30 June 2011 - 09:30 PM

This contract suggests that Holland thinks Lidstrom is less than twice as good at hockey than Ericsson is. :blink:

#2189911 2011 NHL Draft: Rounds 2-7 Discussion

Posted by Bannedforlife on 26 June 2011 - 03:40 AM

the Marchenko pick was a steal that low. He is one of the best D men if not the best, in his age group in Russia.The fact he stated he wouldnt leave russia before last years draft put off all the teams and he didnt get drafted. Someone within the Wings scouting has obviously talked to him and given the top brass the green light about his change of heart. Im pumped about getting Jurco, but this pick could be a brilliant move by the front office boys.

I think you're reading too much into it. Its more likely that they decided that none of the remaining players in the 7th round had any shot of ever making it to the NHL anyway and decided it was better to take the risk on Marchenko on the off chance that he could be persuaded to come to the NHL someday. Im not saying he'll never play for the Red Wings, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

#2189478 Babcock "pissed off" about Burns-to-SJ

Posted by Bannedforlife on 25 June 2011 - 09:21 AM

imf****** pissed too. i was pushing as hard as anyone to land this guy. shows that a trade was possible, and people (babs) felt like we should have picked him up. f*** holland. carter, richards, and now burns? god i don't see this offseason going well anymore.

I'm over getting upset about things I have no control over. Either Holland will get his s*** together this off-season or at some point in the future, or he won't. If he doesn't, we'll either ease comfortably into a decade or so of middle of the pack mediocracy, or we'll bottom out and pile up some nice lottery picks. Either way, I'm done skipping my Friday night plans to stay glued to my TV to watch the draft, or endlessly pressing the LGW refresh button on July 1st and on deadline day and whatnot. It's too sunny outside for this s***.

#2189388 2011 NHL Draft: Rounds 2-7 Discussion

Posted by Bannedforlife on 24 June 2011 - 11:03 PM

Holland trades down every single one of our picks. We end up with all 30 7th round picks, and draft the entire Swedish pee-wee league championship team. Then, he re-signs Ericsson, Eaves, Miller, MacDonald, and Salei. Finally, on the last day before training camp, Holland completes the roster by signing the wily veteran Joe Skrubz for his invaluable "experience" and "leadership". Holland proclaims the off-season to be the busiest and most successful in Red Wings' history. When asked why the team was barely able to clear the cap floor, Holland cites that free agent prices were "too high" and his desire to save cap space for injuries and make trades at the deadline. LGW members rally in support of their GM, arguing that signing any free agent for anything close to fair market value is ridiculous, insisting that we must save cap space to re-sign our own free agents the following off-season. They then proceed to mock all other NHL GMs for their gross overpayment of trade and free agent acquisitions, and declare Ken Holland the greatest general manager in the history of professional sports.

Not surprisingly, a dejected Nicklas Lidstrom decides to announce he will retire early after reporting to training camp to learn that he is expected to lead this team to the Stanley Cup. Nevertheless, the Lidstrom-less Wings hit the season in full stride, shattering league records for wins, points, and shootout losses while coasting to their 21st consecutive playoff berth. Then, despite most analyst's predictions of an evenly matched, hard fought 7 game series, the President's Trophy winning Red Wings manage to pimp-slap the lowly Albuquerque Desert Mongrels back to the stone age in a savage 4 game beatdown. Puppy dogs and ice cream rule the day as LGW erupts with jubilation, spawning countless "We believe" and "This is the Year" threads. Rested and confident, the Red Wings advance to the second round to face their arch-rivals, the Golden State Toilet Fish...

However, confidence quickly turns to apprehension when it is discovered that the Red Wings might have to break a sweat on their preordained crusade for the Stanley Cup. Though unpleasant to watch, Babcock is not concerned when the Red Wings break an NHL record during their game 1 loss after they suffer the most fatalities in a playoff home game (4), reiterating that "the power play is our enforcer". Holland appears unfazed as well, announcing that the team will promote young players to replace the deceased; Cleary (head trauma), Bertuzzi (complications from bite wound), Holmstrom (natural causes), and Hudler (decapitated while attempting to skate onto the bench, running into the door that has been inadvertently stuck shut. Eva maintains that he is still a top 5 playmaker in the world). LGW reaction is mixed and violent, but all are soothed when they learn that Franzen will return after missing 81 regular season games and the entire first round with a torn Anterior Nejrav Flavin. Their faith is rewarded when Franzen leads the team to a game 2 victory by effortlessly scoring 60 goals in 60 minutes. Replays of the game-winning goal show Franzen yawn as he skates into the neutral zone, deke all 3 Golden State forwards, skate onto the opposing bench, pull out Pavelski's mouth guard and throw it to the ice, pause to text message Bjork back in the Fjordland, jump back onto the ice, split the defense, and deftly flip it in top shelf. The play is featured at #10 on Sportcenter's top 10 plays of the night, followed by 9 different ways LeBron James managed to dunk a ball that night.

Unfortunately the victory is short-lived, as the Toilet Fish manage to eke out a pair of 1 goal games on their home ice. Though the series shifts back to Detroit with the Red Wings facing elimination for the third straight year, confidence amongst the faithful remains high. After all, the Wings have out-scored the Fish by nearly 60 goals throughout the series! Game 5 starts off fast and exhilarating, with both teams exchanging huge saves and momentum-shifting goals. Things couldn't get any more exciting when Zetterberg ties the game at the buzzer and sends it into overtime! Fond memories flood the arena as images of Stevie Y jumping and flailing his arms after his double overtime game winner against St Louis flash on the jumbo-tron. Then the unthinkable happens. As both teams return to their benches at the end of intermission, fans are stunned as they watch Ryane Clowe, sidelined since game 1 with a severed arm, walk down the tunnel and take his seat on the bench. The crowd at the Joe is horrified as they watch, as though it were scripted in a movie, Ryane Clowe manage to single-handedly (!!!) power his way through Ericsson and Kindl (shocking) and jam home the series clinching goal. LGW plunges into agonizing despair for about half a day, until a consensus is reached that injuries and travel are to blame, in addition to Brad McCrimmon, despite the fact that he hasn't been seen in over 8 months after disappearing in a Siberian Gulag. This rationalization allows order to return and gloating over our 4th Stanley Cup in, ummmm, 16 years now??? to resume.

Or something like that.

#2189286 2011 NHL Draft: Round 1 Discussion

Posted by Bannedforlife on 24 June 2011 - 09:54 PM

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna play part in the sheeple "I trust in Kenny garbage anymore." It was he himself who has stated "the time to make trades is during the draft. And if they were gonna make a trade it would be in the draft." Watch that interview with Art Regner and you hear it out of his mouth. He fell asleep at the wheel and other teams have 1uped him whether people here wanna admit it or not.

I bet he secretly follows LGW and now he's been brainwashed by eva. He tried to push Hudler on every single trade proposal and now no other GMs will return his phone calls.

#2189171 2011 NHL Draft: Round 1 Discussion

Posted by Bannedforlife on 24 June 2011 - 08:51 PM

The way I look at it is all these teams are just trying to catch up us.

Also, at least we won't have to worry about Seto killing us in the playoffs.

Yea, San Jose has a long way to go before they catch up with us...

#2188538 Cap is official 64.3 Million.

Posted by Bannedforlife on 23 June 2011 - 06:00 PM

Damn, we have a buttload of cap space. If we were to trade Hudler and Filppula we would have $22,082,956. Unreal

This is exactly what im talking about. People get so emotionally attached to players that I get neg'd for merely pointing out how much their cap hit is. I didn't even say I wanted to trade Filppula or that I thought we might, merely that IF we did, our available cap space would be enormous. Ridiculous.

Here, this will really piss them off. If we were to trade Datsyuk and Zetterberg, we would have $28,990,956 in cap space. If we were to trade Howard and Lidstrom we would have $24,657,956 available. And if we were to trade Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Howard, Filppula and Helm, we could spend up to $41,652,956. Get it done Kenny!

#2188522 Cap is official 64.3 Million.

Posted by Bannedforlife on 23 June 2011 - 05:35 PM

Damn, we have a buttload of cap space. If we were to trade Hudler and Filppula we would have $22,082,956. Unreal

#2188515 Holy crap...

Posted by Bannedforlife on 23 June 2011 - 05:23 PM

I would... 1 of Richards or carter did not land them both Schenn and the 8th overall pick... Richards got them Schenn and yes I would give up schenn and Simmonds for Richards. Carter got them the 8th overall pick, with vorachk and a 3rd.

So yes I would if it meant giving up schenn, 8th overall, simmonds a third and vorachk for both Richards and Carter at there cap hits...

I know that as an outside observer it makes sense to pull the trigger on those trades. My point was that once the Wings draft a player, fans grow an irrational emotional attachment to them and that player somehow becomes untradeable. I'm sure 90% of this forum would be against trading Smith or Tatar or any other highly regarded prospect, unless the trade was obscenely in our favor. Its gotten so bad that people get upset whenever someone suggests trading away future first round picks (despite the fact that we haven drafted outside the top 20 in 6 years)

#2188482 Holy crap...

Posted by Bannedforlife on 23 June 2011 - 04:35 PM

Who in our farm system is worth the same as Schenn or the 8th overall draft pick? No one. Come on guys.

More importantly, would anyone here be ok with giving them up if we had them for Richards or Carter? I think not.

#2188163 Nick Lidstrom wins Norris trophy #7

Posted by Bannedforlife on 23 June 2011 - 03:25 AM

Is it just me, or was every single other person on the awards show awkward as hell other than Nick? That's pretty sad considering english isn't even his first language :lol:

#2188027 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by Bannedforlife on 22 June 2011 - 06:23 PM

Sure, sure. Modano WOULD have had 40 points, WOULD have put up a fair share of goals, WOULD have saved the team. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Fact is, he stunk and was benched for a reason.

40-50 points for a guy who is 39 and hasn't played in the NHL in 3 years? Are you serious? We'd be LUCKY if he broke 20, with maybe 7 of those points being goals.

Jeez, can Holland not pick up someone in free agency over 36 for once?

This is coming from the guy who thought Bryzgalov would sign a 5 year contract @ $1.1 million per :lol:

#2187655 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by Bannedforlife on 21 June 2011 - 05:57 PM

Why does Kenny Holland keep signing over-the-hill geezers. We are becoming a nursing home rather than a hockey team. Say NO to Jagr and NO to any players over 35 (unless they are named Selanne or Lidstrom.

Didn't they learn their lessons with Hull, Robitaille, Hasek, Larionov, Chelios, Fetisov, Murphy, Drake? It's like they just want to keep winning Stanley Cups or something...

#2186620 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by Bannedforlife on 17 June 2011 - 08:42 PM

Ok, I'm going to post a lineup and I don't want to get blasted over it. I'm not saying it's possible or that I think it might happen, just how cool it looks. Sort of like if I were to post a picture of a Lamborghini. I know I won't be owning a Lamborghini anytime soon, but they sure are cool to look at. So is this.

Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Jaromir Jagr ($2.000m)
Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.000m)
Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)

Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / James Wisniewski ($4.750m)
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($1.500m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
Doug Janik ($0.512m)

Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Brian Boucher ($1.000m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $63,500,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,393,938; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $106,062

Most of it isn't that far-fetched, except that I've put Carter in there instead of Emmerton. I know a trade for Carter would start with Filppula, but it just looks so much cooler with Filppula in there. Beyond that, I've put in Jagr, which is possible given the rumors that his agent called Holland. 2 million probably wouldn't happen, but that's the most I would feel comfortable paying him. I've also added Wisniewski, I think the consensus is that he is the best option available, and Boucher, but you could add any FA backup goalie and it would still look great. Other than that, I've just re-signed our free agents Eaves, Lidstrom, and Ericsson. This is also dependent on the cap going up to 63.5 million, which is the highest estimate I've seen.

First of all, the forward lines are deep as hell. So many different line combos it could make blueadams head explode. We know that Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary is magic on ice, and having so much depth allows us to keep them together full time.

Hudler-Carter-Jagr would be the first combo I'd try for Jagr, you'd have a excellent playmaker in Hudler dishing to a pair of left and right shooting goal scorers, both Jagr and Carter are big guys to make more room for undersized Hudler and there might be a Czech connection to be discovered.

Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi is a known quantity as well and would be another case of an excellent playmaker dishing to 2 big, goal scoring wingers. I know the first criticism will be having Filppula and Franzen on the third line, but I don't think of it as a third line. I think of it as a 1A/1B/1C situation. All three of the top lines could be a first on 20 teams in the league. This way you could spread the playing time more evenly, preventing possible injuries and keeping players fresher for the playoffs. Matching up against this team would be a nightmare.

Abdelkader-Helm-Eaves is an incredible energy line, hard hitting and could even pot more than their share of goals.

That would leave Holmstrom out as a power play specialist, reducing wear on him for the playoffs. He and Mursak would be excellent injury fill-ins. You know Franzen is going to go down sooner than later; you could put Mursak on the fourth line and move Abdelkader to the third and not miss a beat. Then you could put Holmstrom on the first line with Z&D when Cleary goes down and know that will work too. This line-up would also improve us greatly in the faceoff circle.

The defense would be ok with the first injury, as you could call up Smith first, but might be a little thin if 2 guys went down. Having Boucher fill in for Howard would be more than ok though, I think he is arguably the best back-up in the league right now.

Another concern is cap space for next year, but we would have 23.648 million (assuming we sign Wisniewski, Ericsson, Eaves and Boucher to multi-year deals this year) plus however much the cap goes up next year to re-sign Kronwall, Stuart, Helm and Abdelkader, plus 4 forwards and 2 defensemen. Lidstrom retires, let Hudler, Jagr, Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, and Janik walk.

#2185296 James Wisniewski

Posted by Bannedforlife on 15 June 2011 - 09:09 AM

Good stat work on the penalty question guys. Seems like that question is effectively laid to rest.

Wisniewski committed 18 minor penalties in 75 games last year. If you break down the types of penalties he received it indicates that he does not have a tendancy to commit the same mistake over and over, which can be annoying to watch.

Holding the stick: 1
Interference: 2
Slashing: 2
Cross check: 3
Roughing: 3
Boarding: 1
Hooking: 4
High-sticking: 1
High-sticking (Double): 1

Wiz took 8 of those penalties in 32 games for New York (One was for roughing during the 1-6 loss to the Flyers in which 120 minutes were handed out) and 10 while playing 43 games for Montreal (Another one was for roughing in the 2nd period brawl of the 6-8 loss to Boston in which 182 penalty minutes were handed out)

Of those 18 penalties, only 5 occured during the last 10 minutes of the game (cross check, high-sticking, high-sticking, hooking, roughing), 1 came after the final horn (cross check) and none during overtime. Three times the opposing team received a matching minor, including the brawl in Boston. Only 4 times did the opposing team score on the ensuing power play (roughing, high-sticking, hooking, hooking) and none of those goals turned out to be the game winning or game tying goal. In fact, the goals that were scored turned out to be mostly inconsequential. One was the final goal in a 5-0 beatdown by the Predators, another was the fourth goal in that 6-1 blowout by the Flyers, another was the final goal in a 5-2 loss to the Penguins. The only one that really had any consequence to it was the go-ahead goal that put the Leafs up 4-3. The game ended 5-4 Leafs.

By comparison, Rafalski committed 11 minor penalties last year in 63 games. While Rafalski was great about not taking penalties towards the end of the game, he did take one tripping penalty in OT against Dallas. Loui Eriksson ended up scoring shortly after the penalty expired. The puck also ended up in the back of the net on 2 other Rafalski penalties (hooking and cross check). Also, the majority of the penalties he did take were of the infuriating variety (4 hooking, 3 tripping, 1 puck over the glass). It is worth noting that the only guy Rafalski roughed up this year was Kopecky (That could be seen as good or bad)

PS I was bored and couldnt sleep last night, somehow I got stuck on this.