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#2607958 What's our draft position this year? And best defensemen available

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 15 May 2015 - 11:26 AM

My god what's so hard to understand about fans wanting local heroes ?

What's hard to understand is that you're stating that "fans" want this with no proof of that even being the case. You, frankgrimes, may want this, but that doesn't mean that everyone or even a minute cross section of the fans of any given team want this. I would agree with others above that for anyone who is not xenophobic, icing the *best possible team* regardless of country of origin is the most important thing. Also, as previously pointed out, the Wings *have* multiple players from the area on the team. Now, I was born and raised in MI and this means nothing more to me than a Pierre McGuire interesting trivia tidbit. Nothing. Are they good players who complement the team? Great. If it does mean something to someone else, great. You got it.

TL;DR this isn't a thing. Stop trying to convince us that it is a thing, and that we all want it.

#2605322 At What Point Does Holland Deserve Blame?

Posted by kipwinger on 01 May 2015 - 11:23 AM


Jurco, yeah, I get that. Smith too. But Pulk hasn't had much of a chance here yet. And you could say the same even for Jurco on some level. Don't get me wrong, I think we overvalue a lot of guys too, but I think there's a chance some of these guys stand to come out looking better than they do right now over the next couple years. 


That said, I do think there's something to be said for moving prospects for NHL-ready talent if you can. I'm not one of those whining about all the guys we gave up, and if it meant adding significant pieces to round out this team, I could stand to lose some of our better talent coming up. It's part of the game. You hang onto everybody, you're bound to get burnt, and vice versa. Holland could stand to find more of a middle ground than he has and we might have a more well-rounded defensive group.


I agree.  I said as much above.  "In all cases I think it's too early to tell just how good they'll be". 


As far as moving prospects, I'm not opposed to it.  But I'm not in favor of moving prospects for marginally better talent, on much worse contracts.  The good thing about hanging onto homegrown players is that you can manage the evolution of their salaries a little bit easier because of restricted free agency, bridge contracts, and (hopefully) hometown discounts.  Which is good for the team's cap situation.  So unless it's a slam dunk, and the guy you're trading for is WAY better, it's usually best to just keep your guys. 


Honestly, I'd rather see Holland overpay in free agency than overpay at the trade deadline.

#2599257 ECQF Game 4 GDT : Lightning 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) - Series Tied 2-2

Posted by greenrebellion on 23 April 2015 - 07:44 PM

Welcome to Uncle Garrys New NHL


God I hope you guys aren't serious.  This has been a very well officiated game so far.  Wings have been sloppy and undisciplined at times and it has cost them.  

#2598961 ECQF Game 4 GDT : Lightning 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) - Series Tied 2-2

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 23 April 2015 - 06:52 PM

A GOAL, pervy perverson

Ha. I'm not Pervy, you said sometin pervvvy
You're pervy.


#2598808 Knuckles vs Numbers - The death of the enforcer

Posted by Mckinley25 on 23 April 2015 - 04:59 PM

Sure why not, just let other guys punch our stars and smaller guys in the head and then run to the league crying for a suspension. Instead of handling that stuff like men and call the on ice police and fire the team up.

Actually, that would be handling it like children, who don't know any better.

#2598295 ECQF Game 3 GDT : Lightning 0 at Red Wings 3 - DET Leads series 2-1

Posted by kipwinger on 22 April 2015 - 01:26 PM

I don't see Howard getting moved.  One, because nobody really needs a goalie of Howard's caliber all that bad.  Two, Ken Holland (and Mike Babcock's) M.O. is to keep guys around for "competition".  Remember two years ago when we had more players than roster spots and cap money?  That would have been an ideal time to waive/trade someone and it didn't happen.  As long as Mrazek is cheap (and he will be for a little while), they'll keep Jimbo around. 

#2596112 ECQF Game 2 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Tampa Bay Lightning 5

Posted by Fonzarelli on 18 April 2015 - 03:41 PM

It's pretty disappointing that Abby and Cole are out. Our top 6 would look so much different if we had those guys. f*** this game is over if I'm already talking about what ifs.

ifh Abby were playing, he would have so many I penaltuies, based on what the refs are doing.

#2592309 4/11/15 GDT Red Wings 2 @ Hurricanes 0

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 11 April 2015 - 05:14 PM


Feminizing people to insult them--when will that *not* be funny?!?!?! *slaps thigh* HILARIOUS!!

Nyuck nyuck nyuck

#2577099 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by achildr1 on 01 March 2015 - 11:45 PM


Friendly advice:

If you didn't include your first paragraph and the last line of your response, nobody would be giving your a hard time right now.  But bringing up your fan history and thumping your chest for being a die hard Wings' fan (on a Wings' forum where 90% of us can easily claim the same credentials or more), then following it up with the snarky comment about "thanks for playing" to close your post came off badly.  Very badly.  Most of us try to be friendly to one another here, even if we disagree with something, but when comments like that are made, people are going to gang up on you.

Likewise, if you stated an opinion in some other thread and jimmyemeryhunter (or whoever) posted something belittling and arrogant in response, myself and probably several others would come to your aid and attack the perpetrator.

Its just how we roll.


I appreciate your response. Thanks for being decent...and I only said "thanks for playing" because i was clearly being called out and disrespected before hand. I felt like the person i quoted was being unneccessarily instigating.

#2575271 2/26 GDT : Red Wings 3 at San Jose Sharks 2

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 26 February 2015 - 11:51 PM

Garbage call+ Garbage goaltending. Howard has to corral that shot off the boards, christ.

Howard never should've let them make that call.

There's some more interference...

Oh - there's some more....

There's.... why aren't they calling any of these penalties ?

I really don't think Detroit should complain about interference.
We've been so subtle for so long.
You won't kiss him!

#2574056 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Y19 on 23 February 2015 - 11:41 PM

Great period (the kind where hockey guys skate around and try score goals, defend their goal, and not go to the box and feel shame)

#2574000 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Y19 on 23 February 2015 - 11:14 PM


a wee??


#2573675 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by kipwinger on 23 February 2015 - 01:57 AM

 I believe the NFL has a much larger issue at hand with brain trauma/debilitating injuries/prescription med abuse/domestic abuse than the NHL.


The HBO special on the Chicago Bears 1985 Super Bowl team is the tip of the iceberg.


I don't feel qualified to say whether one sport is worse than the other with regards to causing brain injuries.  They both demonstrably have a serious issue with it.   I do, however, feel that ANY sports league should absolutely prioritize the health and safety of their players.  One easy way to do that, in hockey, is to take unnecessary (and avoidable) hits to the head out of the game.  And one very easy way to do that is to remove fighting by removing the "so called" need for it...increase penalties for serious infractions to the point where players err on the side of caution. 


Caution.  The operable word.  Heaven forbid human beings in the 21st Century learn how to enjoy sports where players must be cautious of one another. 

#2568337 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by krsmith17 on 04 February 2015 - 04:58 PM

Raise your hand if you've watched a lot of Leafs / Predators games since Franson has entered the league, and followed his individual play very closely... :bye1:


People that don't think Franson will be worth it or won't fit in here, clearly are unaware of the type of game this guy plays... I've said it before and I'll say it again, Cody Franson is exactly the type of defenseman this team needs. Him alone would make us an instant threat come playoff time. He is worth the "asking price" as a rental, and he would be worth re-signing after this season. So what, if we have to give up one of our defense prospects to fit him in here long term, he'd be worth it...

#2566443 1/27 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Panthers 4

Posted by Euro_Twins on 27 January 2015 - 09:47 PM


Oh now you know what it is.