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#2556031 NHL Mumps Outbreak

Posted by Echolalia on 12 December 2014 - 06:25 PM

Heaven forbid anyone get vaccinated.


#2555971 More Mantha stuff.....

Posted by Echolalia on 12 December 2014 - 01:09 PM

well... 5 points, technically




#2555864 Jimmy sucks in a shootout Howard

Posted by Echolalia on 11 December 2014 - 05:28 PM

I've still been waiting for someone to explain to me how it's totally acceptable to call out Ericsson for a giveaway that led to a goal, but if anybody brings up Howard doing the same thing they're just a "hater/basher".

 

I'm pretty sure it was the same game too. Ericsson in the 1st period, Howie later in the same game.

 

Then of course there is this article about the quality of Jimmy Howard's starts: http://www.wingingit...-quality-starts

 

One of the stats....Really Bad Starts!

 

I'm sure you guys will head over there and tell them how it's all bulls*** cuz it's just a made up stat and all...

 

Anyway, anybody wanna answer my question? I'd seriously love to have an answer.

 

Of course its totally acceptable to call out anyone who gives the puck away and it leads to a goal.  Everyone does it reguarly in the GDT, including when Howard does it.  Hell, this whole thread was made to bash Howard in the shootout and here we all are.  As far as I'm aware, nobody ever bashed on you or your posts for doing that.  What people disagree with is relying on a "statistic" that is entirely subjective as an objective way to rate a goalie, especially when its clear that you're not interested in comparing him to the rest of the league, but rather trying to paint him in a bad light.  "Bad pass" was never defined, neither were a handful of other statistics that you came up with.  Who decides what pass is considered "bad" or not?  You?  And even if you came to some objective way to quantify a bad pass goal, there exists absolutely zero data on any other goaltender in the history of the NHL in these statistical categoreis, so any values that are obtained, whether objective or otherwise, still have no value because there's no way to define what's considered an acceptable range/poor range for bad pass goals or whatever else you were looking at.  Maybe Howard actually has the best bad pass goals against in the league.  But all you were interested in was counting how many times he let those goals in, and not determining how that value compared to other goalies.  As for the next part of your post, wherein you bring up "really bad starts" from that website:  Its a s***ty name for a statistic (and it also made me lol), but in the website they clearly quantify "really bad start" as "A performance where the goaltender failed to attain even an .850 save percentage."  That's objective.  Under their definition, nobody can argue whether Howard has a "really bad start" or not.  The author of that post is also using his statistics to compare different starts of Howard throughout a season/career and then coming up with a conclusion after the values have been analyzed. What he didn't do is come to his conclusion first, then make up stats to try to support his predetermined conclusion.

 

ANYWAY I think Howard's problem is just as psychological as the rest of the Wings at this point.  They all expect to lose, and teams that verse us in the SO expect to win.  And it shows in their body language.  We aren't seeing those creative dekes (or any dekes), and everyone is more comfortable just shooting the puck. I'm not a goalie so I don't know how to read a goalie's body language as well, but I imagine that Howard isn't playing the shootout with a lot of confidence right now.  Maybe that means he's playing too tight to the net, or he's trying to react instead of predict too much, or vice versa.  All I know is that he hasn't always been this poor.




#2555726 Jimmy sucks in a shootout Howard

Posted by Echolalia on 11 December 2014 - 12:01 AM

Ya but his bad pass save% is almost perfect


#2555002 It's gotta be asked....What's up with Hank?

Posted by Echolalia on 08 December 2014 - 11:55 PM

From what I've read through the forums I don't believe there are many folks who think Zetterberg is completely healthy, myself included, although its a bit confusing that he wouldn't be resting if he wasn't 100% considering how conservative the Wings have been this season with regard to injuries.  Having said that, Franzen and Nyquist are also both in cold spells, and when nobody on the line is taking charge, everyone's going to suffer all the more because of that. 

But like you said, Babcock can hardly break the lines up, because production has been solid throughout the other three lines, and at the very least the Zetterberg line hasn't been a liability defensively, so if Z, Nyquist, and Franzen can break even, Babcock still has two (sometimes three) other lines to carry the offensive burden, at least for now.  Perhaps when Abdelkader comes back he can be put into that line to get a spark going, or if Zetterberg is injured perhaps the team will be more inclined to rest Z up at that point.




#2554986 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by Echolalia on 08 December 2014 - 10:26 PM

 
I love hockey players (as we all do), and believe there are such things as good hockey names.
 
Ryan Callahan - solid red-blooded american hockey name
Vladimir Konstantinov - bad ass russian hockey name
Guy Lafleur - beautiful french-canadian hockey name

Justin Abdelkader - is the same sound I make when I vomit (don't get me wrong,I love the guy)
 
IDK I'm probably just weird.


I think the glory of the name usually follows the glory of the individual after a successful career. If Konstantinov was a soft lanky defensman who only played 10 games in the NHL, our heart-rates probably wouldn't rise today when we hear his name. Similarly, if Abdelkader had a career of taking down NHL heavyweights with one punch, and scoring goals, and wreaking havoc in the playoffs, I think his name would mean something quite different than it does to us now.


#2554940 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by Echolalia on 08 December 2014 - 05:09 PM

The Sharks gave up a 3 on none from the blue line last night to the oilers and they never made a pass and missed the net

 

Everything about this sentence is blowing my mind




#2554704 12/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Hurricanes 1

Posted by Echolalia on 07 December 2014 - 07:54 PM

When are we going to go from civilized wins to like...G'd up, mafioso-style thug wins?

After the All Star break? Trade deadline? 'Cause I have a hard time keepin' it classy.

*shocked face*


Well I never


#2554693 12/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Hurricanes 1

Posted by Echolalia on 07 December 2014 - 07:36 PM

Jolly good show chaps.  Capital work.  That Mr. Datsyuk makes me think my monocle is in want of cleaning.




#2554251 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by Echolalia on 06 December 2014 - 06:05 PM

This is Mantha's first experience playing against men.  Its going to take him a while to adapt to not being the strongest guy on the ice, where he could overpower the opposition to a 50 goal season.




#2554071 Lines Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 05 December 2014 - 11:44 AM

Has anyone else noticed that whatever line Weiss is on is the line that's scoring?  He makes whatever line he's on a whole lot better.  If we can get those top two lines sorted out and give him the remainder of the season and playoffs on Sheahan's wing I think we'll be potent heading into the playoffs. 

 

I don't know if he's just been hot or if its the way he plays (seeing as how our sample size of the guy is so small), but he always seems to be in the right spot offensively.  Its not like the goals or assists he's contributing are awesome shots, or dekeing out a defender, or threading a needle for a tape to tape pass.  He's just there.  And then all of a sudden the puck is there with him.  And then all of a sudden the puck is in the net.  Not that I'm complaining.  Its awesome to see someone who just may know how to play effectively in the grimey area in front of the net (it seems like all his points have come from within 5 feet of the net), and in the mean time, you can see his confidence is soaring out there.  Every game he looks better than the game before.  I'm super excited that this signing is finally looking like its working out.




#2553388 12/2 GDT : Panthers 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Echolalia on 02 December 2014 - 08:30 PM

For as many goals as Nyquist has put up this year, it seems like he's invisible if the Wings aren't on the power play. 




#2553355 12/2 GDT : Panthers 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Echolalia on 02 December 2014 - 07:59 PM

Overdramatic Howie is in net tonight :lol:

 

lol that reminded me of this:




#2552887 11/30 GDT - Canucks 3 at Red Wings 5

Posted by Echolalia on 30 November 2014 - 04:12 PM

We should have a Kindl player watch thread and keep up how his statistics match up with our desired dmen

If it includes such statistics as bad pass goals, and stupid plays in the last minute of the game, then I'm in.


#2552701 General discussion for tonight's games

Posted by Echolalia on 29 November 2014 - 10:43 PM

aaaaaaaaaand the Sabres beat the Habs again. Love it.


They're already in striking distance. The only team cleanly above the Wings right now is the Lightning.