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#2565850 NHL Player Tracking System

Posted by Echolalia on 24 January 2015 - 11:35 PM

I don't want to see a bunch of arrows and graphics cluttering up the screen when I'm just trying to watch the game, but this technology could open the door for a lot of real-time (or near enough) stats that commentators could utilize.  It would be cool to know if Shea Weber just broke 100mph on that shot that Glendening just blocked.  The trajectory thing could also help in determining if a puck was deflected before it went in the net.  I can definitely see uses to this, but let's not travel back down the same road that led us to the glow-puck.

#2565819 GDT : NHL Skills Competition/60th All-Star Game

Posted by Echolalia on 24 January 2015 - 03:23 PM

I suspect Detroit was called, and Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Tatar/whoever probably turned them down, opting for their tropical vacation plans and relaxation instead.

#2565814 Mantha Still Hopes to Play in Detroit This Season

Posted by Echolalia on 24 January 2015 - 02:59 PM

I've always liked that saying. I imagine Holland phoning Mantha; "Anthony, it's Ken Holland. How's about coming to Detroit for a cup of coffee or two?"

So Mantha packs his hockey equipment and gets really excited, but then Kenny takes him to Starbucks.

#2565675 Time for Teemu?

Posted by Echolalia on 23 January 2015 - 11:13 AM

Given how saturated the Wings are on forward, and the alleged price of a top four defensman these days, frankly I'd be surprised if the Wings traded anybody.

#2565582 Mantha Still Hopes to Play in Detroit This Season

Posted by Echolalia on 22 January 2015 - 03:32 PM

lol Mantha doesn't realize who our GM is

#2565327 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 11:27 PM


I'm fine with standing pat for the time being.  I'm not GM, but given the talent that we have coming through the pipeline, I'd be pretty gunshy too, right now.

#2565325 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 11:17 PM

Ah gotcha so maybe we shouldn't even have a goalkeeper to begin with? if he needs to stop a puck it must mean that someone else made a mistake first and that should never happen...

Look up the definition of team game... as for Mrazek yeah he did a real swell job imitating a Swiss cheese there. 


lol hmm lets see, well team game is actually two words, so thats kind of hard to find in a dictionary, so I'm gonna look up "team" instead.  If the forums implode because I screwed up looking for the definition of "team game" I take solice knowing that you're to blame as well, as part of the LGW team.



noun: team; plural noun: teams
a group of players forming one side in a competitive game or sport.
verb: team; 3rd person present: teams; past tense: teamed; past participle: teamed; gerund or present participle: teaming
come together as a team to achieve a common goal.
2. match or coordinate a garment with (another).
"a pinstripe suit teamed with a crisp white shirt
I'm not sure how these definitions pass blame onto Mrazek or Smith for Ericsson's screw up.  They're all on the same side of a competitive sport, so we've established that they're a "team".  Great!  They certainly didn't come together to acheive a common goal in that play (the goal being, you know, get the puck out of the zone), but that still doesn't help your case.  I saw Ericsson not act as part of a team.  Smith was in position to help his teammate should he decided to take the safe pass.  Very teamly of him.  Mrazek was in position for the eventual turnover (in fact he stopped the first shot).  Very teamly of him as well.  The only non-team element I see is Ericsson giving the puck away. 

#2565317 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 10:59 PM

It's an interesting view that it's solely the player who makes the first mistake that is to blame for any given situation even if there are several mistakes made by other players later on that make the situation even worse. 


Do you think Mrazek played the situation well? if not I think we have at least two players who could've done a better job here...


I think Mrazek did all he was capable of doing, and frankly with Parise in front of the net, with the puck, time, and space (all kindly provided by your boy Ericsson), I'm suprised that Mrazek was even able to make the first save.  So again:  I'm not blaming Mrazek for that goal.  And again, if you want to deflect blame from Ericsson and pass it on to Mrazek, or Smith, or the ref, or the taxi driver, or whoever, fine.  As you said, "its an interesting view" for you to take.

#2565308 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 10:44 PM

Again let me hit a hard knee high pass by you then and we'll see if you can bat it down? or we can watch a couple games and see how often that exact play happens and how it's almost never batted down like that. Maybe then you'll understand the risk involved a bit better.

He willfully misrepresents everything I said and I'm supposed to take it seriously? come on now...


Ok my issue here is that I don't care how good or bad Ericsson is at passing, and I don't care how good or bad Parise is at intercepting passes, or how common or rare it is (and I'm under the impression that this actually happens more than you realize, but that's neither here nor there).  What I care about, and what this whole play boils down to, is that Ericsson gave Parise the chance to intercept the pass.  Which is stupid at any point in the game, with anyone right in front of the net. But well into the third, with Parise on the other side of the net, very, very, stupid.  And its also why that goal rests entirely on Ericsson's shoulders.  No Smith's.  Not Mrazek's.  Ericsson.  Because he was the one to make a stupid decision which resulted in putting his teammates in a bind, and ultimately the puck in the net.

Now if you're willing to look at the play as some freak accident, that's all fine and dandy.  But personally, I get more out of the game when I can break down plays and understand exactly what went wrong, why, and what players can do and should do to prevent it from happening in the future.  Its how I assess whether players are difference-makers on the team, or whether they're holding the team back.  Thankfully most coaches share my philosophy, and prefer to identify responsibility and preach what can be improved instead of tossing their shoulders and saying "oh well Parise is elite.  I bet he can't do that again next time we play them."

#2565293 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 10:31 PM


I love the part where he layed out everything you missed, and you had nothing in response other than this. U mad bro?


Nonono we got it wrong.  Ericsson's blame is marginal in this case.  Parise used his L33T skillz to overwhelm our mortal and innocent defensman.  But Smith should have known better than to stand in the corner.  Also Mrazek did something.  I think.


edit: I'm sorry for bustin your chops Ekmanc.  I sincerely have no idea why Ericcson is getting any repreive from blame in this case.  It is honestly baffling to me.  I'm equally as baffled at how this is somehow also Smith's fault, but given his reputation on this forum I understand a little more.

#2565289 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 10:28 PM

You missed pretty much everything but it's ok, I have a feeling that happens to you a lot.


Please, by all means, break it down for us slow folk.  Clearly I don't understand the sophisticated low-risk art of passing the puck up the slot

#2565282 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 10:24 PM

Oh please we've both seen that pass be successful more times than we can count, it might not have been the smartest choice in that situation but it wasn't a high-risk play either if anything it was an elite move by Parise oh and a goalie who completely moved out of the way of course.


Ok lemme summarize just to make sure I got your logic: 

Ericsson isn't really THAT much to blame because Parise is elite, and Ericsson has no way of knowing that an elite player might pick of his pass right up the gut (which by the way most of us learned to avoid in, i don't know, Peewee hockey?)

Mrazek is to blame because he should have known that Parise is elite and should have been ready for the interception

Smith is to blame because because he should have known that Parise is elite and not provided the safe outlet pass for Ericcson but instead anticipated that the puck was going to get intercepted and should have got a head start on skating to the front of the net to cover for Ericsson. 


Let me know if I missed anything.

#2565233 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 10:15 PM

Just as good as your sense of humor I imagine.



Let me try to make a hard knee high pass by you then and we'll see how many out of a 100 that you manage to bat down and stop right on your blade...


You know what guarantees that an elite NHL player isn't going to intercept a pass right in front of my net?  Not passing it right in front of my net when I have options on either side of me that are wide open and waiting for the puck.  I'm have no idea why you're defending Ericsson in this case.  Its pretty cut and dry a stupid decision by him, especially nursing a one-goal lead deep in the third, and one of several unforced turnovers that he's committed in this game.

#2565205 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 10:03 PM

That's exactly the problem in this case, the play took forever to develop and where was he???


Providing an outlet pass per standard hockey protocol that Ericsson for whatever reason decided to not utilize.

#2565193 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 20 January 2015 - 09:58 PM

Good job Ericsson and Mrazek, fantastic play...


Honourable mention to Smith who stood in the corner rolling his thumbs the entire time.


leave it to LGW to pass blame to the classic whooping boy on a goal that he had nothing to do with.  Maybe we can also blame Smith for goals that are scored against us when he's on the bench because he isn't filling up Kronwall's water bottle and keeping his superiors properly hydrated.