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#2272138 Box score nugget of the night

Posted by Echolalia on 20 March 2012 - 11:16 AM

As much as I love watching guys pummel each other, this was a circus act. I'm all for keeping fights in the game, but not staged fights like this.


#2270761 If you Could Change Five Outcomes in Hockey History

Posted by Echolalia on 16 March 2012 - 12:11 PM

I wouldn't change the outcome of the series, but I would've given the Flyers a little more adversity in the rounds leading up to the 97 SCF. Maybe they would've been more prepared to handle the Wings, go on to win the Cup and Vladdy and Sergei Manotzokonov (sp?) never get into the limo that changed their lives. Then again, the driver would have kept his license and perhaps injured or killed somebody else...


#2270098 Call the team out

Posted by Echolalia on 14 March 2012 - 12:02 PM

Special teams have always been a point of concern this year and it is something that the Wings will have to work on, but they can't do much in the state they're currently in. Injuries absolutely play a role in the play we have witnessed, and I think a much larger role than a lot of folks may realize. When a player goes down, you aren't just losing his point total. You lose the chemistry that he has with his teammates, you lose the attention that he gets from the opposition, you lose the special skill set that your team has been designed to compliment. Datsyuk and lidstrom are obviously huge losses for the Wings, but Bertuzzi, Kindl, Eriksson, etc are all significant losses too, based on the above. They're being replaced with guys with capable skill, but little to no experience with the team, their linemates, or the system. That pulls down the play of everyone. I'm seeing a lot of bad passes and a lot more miscommunication, and it has resulted directly into shorthanded goals against, even strength goals against, power play goals against, prevented us from establishing the offensive zone (the only line that seems comfortable with neutral zone passing is Zetterberg's line), prevented us from even getting scoring opportunities. When guys start returning, these problems should disappear, and they can get back to focusing on road wins, power plays, penalty kills, and whatever else plagued them when they were healthy. Babs and co will say they're working on it now, but with the lineup they have it's just not possible, and none of these issues will be fixed until our lineup starts to resemble what it was a month ago.


#2268110 Playoff race thread

Posted by Echolalia on 07 March 2012 - 02:00 PM

Without home ice they are not beating the Canucks and that's a fact.


Thats a fact?

Anyway... If the wings hold serve at home, all they need to do is win just one game on the road. .500 is not red wing standard, but it also demonstrates that we win enough to be able to take at least one of four in someone else's building.


#2267959 Kronwall Destroys Voracek

Posted by Echolalia on 07 March 2012 - 01:00 AM

Made this for fun. Too soon?



Absolutely too soon. I don't want to say definitively one way or another becuase frankly I don't know the state of his condition, but the way his arms flailed on the ice is a sign of severe brain damage. Voracek might be messed up pretty badly right now.


#2267656 3/6 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Flyers 3

Posted by Echolalia on 06 March 2012 - 09:02 PM

If a guy's vulnerable, you're supposed to let up a bit. Kronwall didn't. That's the argument Shanny will make.


The vulnerability aspect of this hit is no different than any other Kronwall hit. Im not using that as defense for the hit, but I don't know that Shanny can use that as the principle reason for enforcing a suspension.
I have to watch to replay again, but Kronner commits to his hits pretty early on and that poses a problem in these situations. When he commits to his hit, it's usually while the puck is in mid pass along the boards to the winger. Theres a good second or two as Kronwall transfers his momentum from skating backwards to skating into the zone. if a player presents his head in front of his body, eyes only in the puck after getting the puck, kronwall is already on top of him. If we give the winger the benefit here, and say kronwall can still pull up and avoid the hit, the winger gets a breakaway because at this point all of kronwall's momentum is going the opposite direction of the play, and hes pinched in from the blue line. Letting up on a hit in those situations would lead to breakaways.
For Kronwall when he decides to engage in the process of starting the hit, he either commits to the hit and risk the injury and the suspension if he happens to never put his head up, or avoid the hit and give the winger an excellent scoring opp.
The way the rules are set up really discourage these types of hits (not headshots but hitting wingers as they approach the blue line). I never really thought about it before this instance because everyone up until this point ( at least since the rules cracked down) got their head up in time to avoid getting it blasted off their body.


#2267102 Hockey Rules Questions- Goals and Whistles

Posted by Echolalia on 06 March 2012 - 09:44 AM

Doesn't count, play was called dead before the puck crossed the net. They would go to video review, determine when the whistle was blown, and call accordingly. Reminds me of the Brad May goal against Dallas


The brad may goal was embarrassing. He shoots the puck, puck goes cleanly into the net, clearly behind the goalie, ref waits a second before blowing the play dead under the assumption that the goalie had stopped the puck. And the whole time the puck was sitting in the net.


#2267014 Dearborn councilman assaulted outside JLA

Posted by Echolalia on 05 March 2012 - 11:05 PM

GMR are you ready to be banned from Red Wings games for life??


#2266774 JUST CURIOUS!

Posted by Echolalia on 05 March 2012 - 02:03 AM

Geez I'm 2007. I thought I was a big-timer that everyone knows. I've been put in my place!


#2265132 Lidstrom to win Norris trophy?

Posted by Echolalia on 29 February 2012 - 12:56 PM

Lidstrom hasn't even been the best defenseman on our team, IMO, let alone the entire league. I don't know if he would win the Norris even if he was playing hockey ala lidstrom 2002, though. I feel like there are too many influential people who see Lids as inferior to Orr and have to justify that by not voting for his tying Norris trophy. It doesn't matter either way, though.


#2264611 Brad Stuart's family issues

Posted by Echolalia on 28 February 2012 - 04:40 PM

I did hear that it definitely has to do with his wife's daughter (Stuart's stepchild) and her connection to her biological father, but I didn't know that there was any legal binding involved. I was always under the impression that Stuart and his family did not want the daughter to grow up in a different state than her biological father.


#2259816 Kyle Quincey traded to Detroit in 3 team trade (TBL & COL)

Posted by Echolalia on 21 February 2012 - 04:25 PM

Yes please! I was really bummed to see him leave, although at the time he really deserved to be playing regular minutes in the NHL instead of playing a few games here and there between grand rapids stints. He's had time to develop in the NHL into a solid defenseman and I'm happy to have him back, if true.
A first round pick might seem heavy for someone that we had just a few years ago, but I think it's worth it, given the position were in, the fact that Quincey is still young, still has upside, and draft picks are never a guaranteed NHL player; even 1st rounders. I'll take it.


#2259361 Since we didn't get Kubina...

Posted by Echolalia on 20 February 2012 - 01:58 PM

I can't remember an incidence when Holland did what rumors and fans predicted/hoped/expected. His trades are always completely out of the blue. In any event, i would love to see Malone or Morrow wearing a Wings sweater next week, especially after watching the game against the sharks. We need physical, smart, effective contributors just for the occasion that we vs the sharks in the playoffs.

Also, I'm scared to death what this team will look like when Stuart is gone. I'll probably get a lot of flak for this but I think he's been our best defenseman this year, lidstrom including. It seems like he singlehandedly stops a goal once every three games, and he's the only dman we have who is really effective in the corners against players like the sharks when the cycle is established, or during a tight dump and chase. I would love for holland to pick up a defenseman with a similar playing style to Stuart.


#2258271 Yzerman asks Pavel Kubina to Provide list of teams

Posted by Echolalia on 18 February 2012 - 12:41 PM

I'll take Kubina if Yzerman includes Malone in the deal as well.
Kubina and Malone for kindl, emmerton, and a low pick. Tampa Bay gets some young talent to work with, clean up some cap space, and we get veteran leadership and grit to help us in the playoffs. I think it's a fair deal for both sides


#2257258 Why everyone hates us

Posted by Echolalia on 15 February 2012 - 11:06 PM

All teams that are successful are hated outside their fan base. If they're successful; one of the best or the best in the league, that means they're a big threat to the success of some other team. Thus hatred is born. Nobody hated the sharks before they started beating us. Nobody hates the penguins, or even Crosby for that matter, until they started getting legitimately threatening. Up until recently, Chicago was the team everyone loved to play because it was an easy 2 points. Now that they won a cup and stand to challenge for it for at least a little while, there are a ton of folks that hate the organization.
The wings have been a threat to other team's success, and that threat has existed for 20 years. That timeline is long enough for just about every team in the league to have been competitive or near the top at least once. In other words we have directly threatened (and often succeeded) at stoping just about every team from reaching their ultimate goal during a period when they actually stood a chance at winning at least once. We're widely hated for this reason.