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#2441550 ESPN Poll of Anonymous Players

Posted by Echolalia on 04 October 2013 - 12:25 PM

Nik Kronwall you goon

#2440626 Oilers Name Six Alternate Captains

Posted by Echolalia on 02 October 2013 - 04:50 PM

It's almost embarrassing if you're not named an alternate...

#2440605 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by Echolalia on 02 October 2013 - 04:00 PM

I'm with him, and I can accept that 95% of fans (or more) think that view is blasphemy and fighting is an essential part of the game. I disagree. I think the vast majority of fights in today's league do nothing to influence the game one way or another, have little/no motive behind them, and are entirely unnecessary. In short I think its a waste of time. Granted, there are fights that mean something; the battles the Wings had against the Avs meant something, and if the bad blood is there in high enough concentrations, I don't think even a game misconduct will prevent two players or teams from fighting. I do think game misconducts will remove the fluff from the ice, and likely remove goons who can't actually play hockey from the game as well, and I am for that. I realize this is a radical view and one that is drastically different from the philosophy that this league developed within over the past 50 years. I just think it is loony to place an event in a game that contributes very little to the overall team goal and has very little actual value over the well-being of an individual.
Sorry LGW for letting you down :(

#2440247 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Echolalia on 01 October 2013 - 05:54 PM

Yeah, when he's not injured, or being rubbed out of the play, he's got a little grit and screens the goalie. That'd be great if the team had a guy like Lidstrom/Rafalski/Shanahan/etc who was able to put it on net. This team has a lot of pass first guys, and since its cleary (a screening player) vs Tatar (a guy who likes to shoot more than anyone else on the team) I'd go with Tatar.

I don't expect it will ever be Cleary vs Tatar. We probably differ in this view but Cleary can still contribute to this team in a way that makes him a viable top 9 option, so when Tatar does crack the lineup, it won't be to replace Cleary. Bertuzzi and Sammuelson on the other hand, haven't played for over a year (excluding the 8 minutes they were healthy last season). They are likely getting a courtesy shot in the first week or so to earn their contracts, but I expect Tatar will end up replacing one of the two of them in the lineup.

#2440194 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Echolalia on 01 October 2013 - 02:02 PM

When Babs says veterans get the nod over rookies, I bet he's referring to Bertuzzi and Sammuelson moreso than Cleary. I wonder if this is more about giving Bertuzzi and Sammuelson a chance to actually play (and justify the contracts that they did not earn last year due to injury), now that they're physically able to be placed in the lineup.  I think its realistic and fair for Babs and Holland to say "Bert and Sammy get a crack at establishing themselves because they weren't able to last year, but if there's a slip-up or Babs doesn't think he's getting the production that he expects, than Tatar will be waiting to take that spot"

#2439971 Emmerton on Waivers

Posted by Echolalia on 30 September 2013 - 12:56 PM

Tatar scratched while Cleary, Bertuzzi and Samuelsson probably all play?
Holland will never embrace a youth movement. It only happened because his hand was forced last season.

I think Babs is the one who determines who's scratched, not Holland.

#2439543 Are teams going to "bait" us into fighting?

Posted by Echolalia on 28 September 2013 - 01:07 PM

The Wings had plenty of teams trying to bait them into fighting in the West, particularly the Ducks.  Sometimes someone answers the bell, but for the most part, our guys are pretty disciplined in that regard, and the younger players will probably get a stern talking to should they decide to get baited, from veteran players or coaching staff.


In short: I'm sure we'll see some fights this year, but mostly from guys like Tootoo, or Abdelkader.  I wouldn't be shocked to see Ericsson or Smith get into a fight either, but aside from that I wouldn't expect anyone else to drop the gloves.  All in all I don't think it will be much different than previous years.

#2439211 HBO 24/7

Posted by Echolalia on 26 September 2013 - 07:32 PM

IMO they should get a company like ABC, NBC, CBC, ESPN, etc. to make these preview shows - a broadcaster who knows something about sports.


whats wrong with HBO?

#2439191 Brendan Smith

Posted by Echolalia on 26 September 2013 - 05:13 PM

Its important to remember that Smith is still very much inexperienced.  Due to the lockout and the fact that we've been hearing so much from him in previous years, its easy to forget that as of right now, he only has 48 regular season games, and 14 playoff games of NHL experience under his belt.  By the way, he has 15 regular season points, and 5 playoff points, which is a pretty respectable pace, IMO.  He just needs to keep working on his play on the defensive side of the puck.

#2439107 Brendan Smith

Posted by Echolalia on 26 September 2013 - 08:30 AM

This also happened with Eriksson and Kindl, and will probably happen to DeKeyser as well.  Smith isn't asked to be a quiet, keep-your-nose-clean and don't be noticed defensman like he was when he was first called up.  He needs to be a difference maker, and that sometimes means sticking your neck out and taking risks to make a play.  Smith is at the point in his development where he's still learning when to takes those risks and how.  And yeah, like others have mentioned, its likely affecting his confidence when he tries for the breakaway pass and it gets picked for a goal in his own net.  I still maintain that he will be an excellent player (especially offensively) in a couple years, once these experiences set in and he learns how to be an effective player.

#2438802 Amway-Red Wings end partnership

Posted by Echolalia on 24 September 2013 - 08:14 PM




I really don't like hearing that while the goal horn is blowing and the crowd is roaring. It really kills the high.


It'd be cool if Datsyuk sponsored the Wings for a game, just so when Zetterberg scores, we'll all hear "Zetterberg scores!!!  THIS GOAL IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY PAVEL DATSYUK.  BECAUSE EVEN WHEN HE DOESN'T SCORE... HE SCORES."

#2438765 Petr Mrazek or Jonas Gustvsson

Posted by Echolalia on 24 September 2013 - 05:59 PM

I'm conflicted, because I really feel like Mrazek is going to be with another organization in a couple years now that Jimmy has a longer-term contract with the Wings.

#2437402 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Echolalia on 17 September 2013 - 11:15 PM


During the playoffs, Eaves was playing excellent defense, grinding hard, and creating scoring chances. Cleary was falling down, skating slowly, and falling down more.


All of Eaves excellent playing didn't amount to much though, which is typical for a fourth liner.  Cleary, regardless of how many times he fell or how slowly he was skating, still managed to put up solid numbers in the playoffs, and as per his entire tenure with Detroit, better numbers than Eaves.

Eaves is an effective fourth liner, and I really enjoy having him on the team.  That I think everyone can agree on.

Cleary has been a less than stellar top-9 player, and I would even agree that he was a poor option for the top-six last year.

But we're still comparing a career fourth-liner to someone who has had success regardless of where he's placed in the lineup, and who he's playing against.  Even if he's doing his job poorly, Cleary still brings more upside to the team than Eaves, or any 4th liner.

#2436760 9/16 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 4 at Penguins 1

Posted by Echolalia on 15 September 2013 - 08:40 PM

Tatar playing in the same preseason lineup as Cleary. I bet we see a fire under his ass

#2436095 Cleary re-signs with Detroit, 1 year, $1.75m deal

Posted by Echolalia on 12 September 2013 - 10:42 AM

this is good, LGW seemed overdue for an implosion :P


really though, i'm not surprised at all. and will wait to be upset or not until we figure out how this roster is getting slimmed down.

I think this is the best way to go about it as a fan.  The season hasn't started yet.  No one knows what will happen throughout training camp and up to opening day, but as long as the best players are on the ice in October, and the worst/least effective three players are the ones traded/waived/whatever, then I'll be okay.  I trust that Babcock and Holland are a good judge for what will make this team the most competitive, and cuts will be made accordingly.  For what its worth, I happen to think Cleary can bring more to the Wings than a guy like Emmerton, but we will see how the cards play out.