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Let me know when they get rid of the whole shootout.

I wouldn't worry about getting in trouble if you're throwing an octopus in the Joe. The staff are Wings fans too! If I were you I'd save the octopus for the first Wings goal, though. Bring 10 or 12, actually, and throw them out whenever we win a faceoff.

Yeupp. And so do the coaches.

Pffft, I don't know what you guys are talking about, we're going to win today by 10 touchdowns!

Good for Sammy. He looks so cocky too these days when he scores as his Canuck buddies hug him and toss him about. I wonder why he couldn't snipe the corner of the net like he did tonight last year. Funny how these things work.

I'm pretty sure this is what the GDT is for.

Babcock dug his grave some time ago. This is not about Howard or Osgood. It's not about which goaltender we like or who we prefer in goal. This is about a coach who rendered his backup goaltender virtually useless by keeping him on the bench for an unreasonable amount of games. And that's just poor coaching in my opinion.

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don't drop the octopus when swinging it over your head, all that did in game 3 was send a bad omen to the team thanks, Red wings fans everywhere

I like this idea because it truly signifies that there is finally a goalie that the fans feel has replaced Ozzie. Hasek-Joseph-Legace none of those guys ever got the crowd chant love from the fans like Ozzie does. They were loved, but Ozzie gets the huge love from Wings fans. Would be nice to share it with Howie now that Ozzie is passing the torch.

Man I would love to see kings take this series... I hate the kings but i hate the nucks way more lol except for sammy he is ok <_<

Because you could have lost the shootout by the time you get to your best shooter if he's third? Or failed to put it away earlier and give the other team a chance to get back in the shootout. For example, say you put your second best shooter third. Then you could lose a chance to win the shootout if, say, you're up 1-0 and the second shooting team in the second round. It gives the other team a better chance to tie it up. There is no possible reason to not go best to worst. It can only hurt you. And why should Tort's mind have changed between the start of the shootout and that point? He knew when he named Jokinen that far into his list that it's round-by-round sudden death, and yet you think he would put out the second best option? Right.

The second one you mention, he was in position to make the stop had the defense done its job and forced the puck outside. The defense should NEVER have let the puck carrier skate right into the middle like that.

I agree with everything. I just want round two the Cup. No matter what it takes to get there. The more and more I think about it, as much as I think throwing Osgood in now would be a disservice to the veteran letting him come in cold and go down with Howard's ship while at the same time denying Howard the must of every young goaltender not named Dryden or Roy, a playoff disappointment, I think Osgood would relish the opportunity and I think the Wings would do their best to insulate Ozzy knowing how rusty he is. Even if Osgood isn't great in Game 4, at least he'd be at home and we all know JLA would be pumping him up to no end. I think this team needs to be shaken up like they were in 2008. Above all else they need to win. The organization and Babcock especially needs to make a statement that whatever tools are at their disposal they'll use them. I think we all know that there is no way Howard won't start in Game 4 and I agree with him being given one more chance, but I think Babcock has to have the balls to have a very short leash. Goal in the first two minutes? Ozzy. Goal right after a Wings goal? Ozzy. Softy in the first period? Ozzy. Really, anything short of a solid goal against in the first 10 minutes of play. It gives the kid and the defense in front of him one last chance to prove they believe in eachother and gives the team enough time to right the ship for Ozzy should things come to that. Going with Osgood to start the third period with the Wings reeling is the last thing this team needs. Give Howard another chance, I really think the kid could come out and have a stellar game, turning the whole thing around. But its time for him to prove it and the team to prove they are behind him. But if its apparent that isn't the case, Babcock needs to be quick. I said going into the 2008 playoffs that Hasek didn't have what it took to get the job done anymore and that it was Ozzy or bust. The fortunes really had to align in that scenario, literally the ONLY way I could foresee a goaltender change happening: 2-0 series lead with shaky goaltending that eventually loses the next two games, give the next goaltender a chance to play a period on the road make some saves and then come home for a best of 3. This is not the ideal situation that was, so I believe we'll know by the start of the 2nd period Tuesday whether the Wings are going to win or lose with Howard. I hope the former, but am understanding if its the latter. I just hope that if things continue to fall apart Babcock has the conviction to turn to Ozzy. EDIT: correction

If Babcock decided to switch, he would need to run full practices today and before the game to get Oz up to speed. I mean FULL practices, 5 on 5 with Howie at the other end. Would I be comfortable with Ozzie in after a long break? No. Do I think he is capable of saving our asses like he did in 08? Yes.

Detroit does turn on their goalies insanely quickly.

If you ever took time to read posts you would have realized that Doc was never against Howard.