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I'm out. Don't feel like listening to the endless Ozzie bashing that is sure to come, despite the fact that our D is obviously s*** again with McCrimmon behind the bench.

3 STANLEY CUPS - NUFF SAID ! AND HE IS THE BACKUP !

Still too early for a "Probert rolling in the grave" comment.

The human knee is held together with rubber bands and prayer. Doesn't matter who you are, it's a weak spot.

Practice man, practice. We're talking about practice here man, not the real game, but practice. Edit: A.I. can do it better than I can

its gotta be either Howard or our backups... right? that's how this place works

Who gives a s*** about the score, I gotta see the Downey and Bertuzzi fight. Looks like Bert went crazy on Orpik tonight, f***in eh Todd.

It's easier to blame and point a finger then it is to realize that THIS is preseason. We have more than 5 starters not playing tonight. The SOG's are skewed because of it. Leave preseason where it's supposed to be. It's an opportunity to let Happy/Mo/Cleary, Ericsson/Salei, and Abs, Ritola, and Lashoff to shine and develop. So don't jump off any bridge at this point. Unless...you do it quietly.

I agree. Osgood should have won 4 cups if the Wings would have taken game 6 or 7, but I digress. The Wings are not losing because of Osgoods play right now. They are losing because the Pens played all their starters. If we had all our starters in, the game would be much different. The Ozzie haters will all pile on the hate bandwagon though. Injury?

Cha, As if ?! So were going according to your clock here ? How about you let us all know when and when we can't Talk about the Toughest Man to Ever Lace 'em up. Ther'd be Blood on the Ice if this happened while Probes Patrolled the Pond - that's my point.

Seriously, I could give a f*** about the results of this game, so long as Mule is not seriously hurt.

Let me get this straight... Wings have an "enforcer" and Franzen gets a cheap shot. Well, good thing Red Wings have an "enforcer". What a ******* waste of roster space!

For the 'best poster', he sure makes some asinine statements.

everyone. ive got a secret....(whispers) it's the PRESEASON. The pens have basically their starting lineup..

I've been a member here for 7 and a half years, I hope you guys know that I know the answer. I wasn't ballsy enough to start my own thread about it, but I'm sure that'll happen soon enough

The only only thing worse than the rabid Bettman haters is someone who goes out of their way to praise him. I'll stick with the former, thank you. Here's some reasons I hate him and blame him for since 75% of you are sucking his balls right now. -A labor strike that reduced the season to 48 games, and the other a lockout that lost an entire season. -I'm a hockey fan and I can't watch many games without shelling out money for those channels. -$600 million with ESPN in 1998 to $72.5 with Versus in 2008 -Bulls*** scheduling in the 2009 playoffs. -Terrible, terrible reffing every year. Hey! remember the 2008, 2009, 2010 playoffs?!? -Putting teams in cities where I don't believe hockey will ever be successful(well, maybe because of teams like the Red Wings and revenue sharing) -The dilution of talent because of over expansion. -Hockey isn't yet popular in the U.S. so lets start playing in Europe! -Handling of the Phoenix situation. -Did I mention terrible AND s***ty reffing? -Say what you want about his wonderful economic growth that you make it out to be but the NFL, MLB, NBA and even NASCAR spank the NHL every year. -And the most recent for me wasthe NHL's reaction to this fiasco. A prime example of, "Shut the hell up, we're in charge." Are all of these his fault? Probably not.Let me hold onto those delusions. BUT there is a reason he get's booed so many places he goes. He gets booed at the NHL DRAFT for christ sake. You talk about him eliminating the clutch and grab play like it was such a genius move too, no just a goddamn OBVIOUS one. /end of rant

O.K. I have to ask this. Are you Patrick Sharp by any chance?

Just logged on and checked the recap. Saw this "With a sellout crowd of 18,087 and both teams using much of their "A" lineups, the $321 million arena opened with an almost regular-season intensity." Ummm, on what planet is a Wings team that doesn't dress Lidstrom, Z-bug, Dats, Rafalski, Maltby, Hudler, Draper and Holmstrom "much of their 'A' lineup? Dude, pass that crack pipe over here. Looks like I need to peruse about 350 posts to figure out how bad the Franzen injury is/was. WELCOME BACK WINGS!

I agree 100%. There is no need to attack Ozzie - it's only preseason!!! Howard is # 1 and Ozzie will be there when needed. I was watching B's vs. Habs and was impressed with McGratten, he can really skate, hit and pass. Maybe Holland should have him (instead of Downey) in camp... McQuaid right hand DEF) is the BEAST!!!

been away for a year and nothing changes i see..... Ozzie still sucks... Shame on a back up!!! lol okay carry on with your bad ass preseason (game 1 ...team slashed in half) selves

Couple things: 1) It's pre-season. Nobody cares. Yeah, Ozzie should technically be trying to prove himself but this really isn't an indicator of the rest of the season. Look at the team in front of him and the team they're playing against. Malkin and Crosby were both playing and neither Datsyuk or Zetterberg played. 2) I think the WIngs went something like 1-9 in 2002 and then went on to one of the most amazing seasons. So don't everybody start attacking Ozzie. I can sense some of you have your fingers hovering on the "jump off bandwagon" button already.

What video feed?

The NHL is now a game that's won and lost by the power play. Penalties so absurd you would have to lower the intensity of your game and play like a girl to avoid. He's done a good job you say? Give me a break. A team can dominate for 2 periods and come the 3rd get charged with ridicules penalties and lose the game. Whats the matter with you guys...

Also interesting that they can't make rude/threatening gestures.

With a comment like that, how long have you been a Red Wings fan? Two years?