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You don't get it. Just like your polar opposite, both of you bring him up in these absurd extremes and bring him up in topics or subjects that have absolutely nothing to do with him over and over and over again. 9 times out of 10, we know what is coming from both of your keystrokes, and when it's annoying in either extreme positive or negative, people are going to neg you. Both of you are grown men that should know damned well that he is neither as bad or as good as either of you underhype or overhype him respectively, yet you two still keep on doing it over and over and over again. I have little doubt that yall aren't trying to purposefully piss people off, but it is still incredibly numbing and annoying. Most times I want to strangle both of you, figuratively speaking of course, when I read your responses. Nobody here says he is the greatest thing since sliced bread or an all-star like you perceive, and conversely most people don't think he is as bad as a dumptruck (when he isn't in a dry spell or whatever) like eva unit zero perceives. The only two people with these absurd extremes are you two. Not the LGW community, you two and you two alone. The majority of people will likely give him fair kudos if he is playing well, or dog him accordingly and fairly if he struggles (like much of the beginning of last season for instance). Nothing more or less. And making a big deal out of being negged is annoying as well, worrying about ego or how you look on here to people you probably will never see in life. Let it be, people don't have to explain themselves to you or why they plus or minus you. You want to keep disliking somebody, doesn't bother me, that's totally your business and your choice and I respect that and won't be able to change that, I'm not trying to. Not trying to change eva unit zero's supporting of Hudler either. But keep beating a dead horse in this type of fashion and in places that have nothing to do with him, you are going to get a good bit of negatives and bashlashes more often than not. Now as for Brunnstrom, I think at worst he secured himself a minor league contract here, definitely improved his chances lately to make the Wings and with some recent injuries to other probables. Would love to have him in the system.

Brunnstrom and Emmerton have been the two best 'prospect' tryouts. Neither will pass through waivers, so Holland may as well sign Bruno and rotate him with Miller and Emmerton. Deal with Mursak when he gets off IR. If Emmerton or Bruno cool down or don't pan out, waive one of them. If they outplay Miller, waive Miller.

Wow. Thats pretty over the top. Especially considering other players got less for similar hits this preseason AND it wasn't a targeted head shot and Ben Smith was just as at fault as Brendan Smith for trying that fancy toe drag at the last second.

Seems a touch harsh.

First: Second: At least you managed a whole intervening sentence before contradicting yourself.

Yeah, no need for any Cleary hate. For what he brings to the team he is more than worth his cap hit. Can't even believe someone could see it any other way. His scoring alone is worth is 3mil/year, not to mention everything else he brings on the defensive side of the game. Not to mention that he can play on any line in any situation. He'll never be a superstar but is everything we need.

That's hardly a comparable situation. Backes' first full season in the league was 2007-2008 and he was still on the last year of his deal this past season. Backes parlayed a couple of 30-goal seasons into a bigger deal. You are also comparing probably the best forward on a pretty deep team up front to maybe the 4th or 5th best forward on the Red Wings. Also, your claim Cleary misses 1/4th of the season EVERY year couldn't be further from the truth. Since joining the Red Wings, Cleary has never played fewer than 63 games, so in fact he has actually never missed 1/4th of the season in ANY year. Like Mickey says, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. Everyone on the team is getting older -- should we trade Franzen or Zetterberg too since both of them have missed time? I'll take a guy that can score 26 goals, play on any line, is strong defensively and works his ass off every single shift. Then again, I would need to get off his jockstrap and look at it with your objectivity instead.

Rule #2: It's the Board of Governors that has to approve any realignment plan, not the commish.

Total props to Volpatti too. He held up when he knew Winchester was down. Some players would have just kept swinging.

Cleary is such a scrub. We should definitely part ways with the second leading goal scorer on the team. Why would anyone agree with you now anyways? He's been worth the money for the two years you have been claiming he isn't, so I can't see this season being any different.

This pretty much sends a zero tolerance message in regards to head shots & in my opinion, also sends the message that the player who gets hit is not expected to take some responsibility for putting himself in a position to take a dangerous hit i.e. Ben Smith trying to make a last minute move & changing the angle of the hit from shoulder-on-shoulder to shoulder-on-chin. If that's the message the league wants to send, fine. But if there's a similar situation down the road, whether this season or not, they better be consistent. Your move Shanny. We'll be watching to see if you turn into Colin Campbell 2.0.

You know it's harsh when even Mike Milbury was sticking up for Smith.

Yea, someone has had their panties in a bunch and negging everyone.... ... Waits for neg...

Exactly what I was going to post.

A dreamland where even Sharks can win the Stanley Cup.

They just need to make it a requirement that every NHL ref and linesman are to memorize every player's name and number by their face between seasons, that way we won't have to worry about small numbers on the helmets.

There are more torn ACLs in soccer per year than hockey, so why do you hate soccer so much? Hockey is still a physical game, the only thing that's being weeded out of it are the hits to the head, which every sport is trying to do and not just hockey. Get over it or stop watching the sport, no one is forcing you to watch hockey if you hate it so much. If hockey was all about hitting and you get one point for every concussion you deliver I'd watch it. If hockey was all about how many saucer passes you could complete in a row, I'd watch it. Watch the sport and quit ******* bitching. The sports evolving and so should you or stop watching it and GTFO.

We have a neg bandit around here doing it. I fixed it up while im sure i will get the neg on mine for doing so like earlier today...oh well.=) But The way brunn has looked really good in the preseason and i hope they give him a shot. And Heaten just to be a man about it I just read today that Ian is in no way a replacement for raff and that Kronwall is stepping up to the next level and that would be more of a replacement for raff it was quoted but i can;t remember who said it. So there you go.=)

Unnecessary clutter.

You're going to have a hard time convincing the majority on here about Cleary. Good luck with that.

Hello and welcome. Firstly, I've bolded out a serious mistake in your post. Be careful not to do that again. Personally I think that the whole team is worth watching. I can't imagine me following Wings because of just a few players. Big part of the fun is how you get to know all the players by time. Not everyone is a star but they all have a role. If you really are as green as you seem then I can give you names of a few more core members of the team: Henrik Zetterberg (assistant captain), Johan Franzen (leading goal scorer), Niklas Kronwall (second best defenseman behind Lidström) and Jimmy Howard (a young solid goalie).

I was just thinking... If they have them on the back of the jerseys, why do they need them on the back of the helmets too? Is the numbering of the helmets just so that the players can easily identify their own helmets? So the right helmets end up in the right lockers? If that's the case, why not just put them on the front only? They'd still be serving their purpose along with the dual function of helping alien fans recognize the opposition. Plus it'd be another way to determine if a player has been concussed. Just see if he puts his lid on backwards.

It's the freaking helmet. Who gives a crap?

It stands for "Asshat" in Pittsburgh.