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  1. 2 points
    Nobody cares about the fans. They all want money. They want as much as they can get, both sides. If it was Bettman or Selig or Shanny up there, it'd be the same story. But keep believing that if Bettman magically disappeared that Jeremy Jacobs and Mike Illitch would stop caring about money.
  2. 2 points
    All you need to write on the paper is Pavel Datsyuk. Period. I don't see how you can't get an A+ for that.
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    I can absolutely, without any shred of doubt whatsoever, tell you that it wouldn't have matter at all whether they started negotiating in January or June. Time is not the issue. It takes no time at all to strike a deal. The issue is that no one wants to move off their positions. There is no way that would have happened before a deadline. No one would have lost any money between January and now....the only hope now is that as both sides start losing money, someone will make a move (history has shown that doesn't matter too much though).
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    Guest

    Jimmy D Speaks out on Lockout, fined $250k

    owners of ranch = owners of NHL teams cows = players bettman = ? field = ice feed = paycheck supermarket = fans But wait... cows are fat... and players are in shape... !!! This just doesn't add up! I’m starting to think that Jimmy D didn't mean it as an exact analogy...
  6. 1 point
    The Fan’s do have a voice: Project: Unfollow Hockey The NHLPA, NHL, Lockout, Escrow, Hockey Related Revenues, KHL, Cancelled Pre Season, Core Economic Issues, Non-Core Economic issues, Collective Bargaining agreement, Players, Owners, fans, 50/50 split, 57/43 split, talks resume, talks cancelled, meaningful proposal, we care about the fans, it’s the fans fault, we just want to play hockey, we just want there to be hockey, 3.3 billion, revenue, growth, small market teams, large market teams, and the FANS CANNOT DO ANYTHING. I believe that statement is wrong. The fans can and should be heard. There is something small and easy we can do to make our voice heard or limit the voice of the NHL and the players. I will get to this shortly. We the fans love this game, we are passionate about it, we eat, sleep and breathe it, and we support it with our hard earned dollars. It is a funny thing being a fan, or more appropriately, a fanatic. We are so emotionally invested in the performance of teams and players that we rarely have any true connection with. It just helps us to believe that besides playing for the love of the game (and making more money in one year at league minimum than most fans will make in a lifetime) that they appreciate us and our devotion. What really bothers me about this lockout is that once the puck finally drops whether it be at the beginning of a shortened season or next season, I will go right back. I also know I won’t be going back alone. We just love this sport too much. It is part of our upbringing, culture and lives. Sure some fridge fans will leave and the small market teams will definitely be hurting but the big market teams and most teams in Canada will be fine as soon as the season begins. Our inevitable return makes me angry but I know it will happen and you know it will too. Why do they get to know we are coming when they need us but they don’t come when we need hockey? You feel helpless because we are allowing the league to continually have labour disputes because we just love the sport too much. It’s a fantastic sport that has never been better we love it too much not to go back to it. Being a hockey fan is a way of life. Social Media has been booming since the last lockout and has revolutionized the business. Players and teams have Facebook and Twitter accounts and as a result fans have never felt so close to their favorite team or players. It gives insight to the life of an NHL player and their team and organization as a whole. It gives you something fun to read each and every day. The most amazing part is we can actually communicate with our heroes. If you have not realized where I am headed, my simple solution for the fans to stop following NHL players and teams. It may seem like nothing but each follower has a value associated with them. Just like we are all dollar signs to the NHL and NHLPA. Just like any business there is a cost per interaction and a cost linked to how many followers you have. It helps drive sales, gets fans into the seats, and promotes hockey merchandise that a player has a stake in. It has taken these teams and players years to get to the level of followers they currently have so if we all decide to un-follow, unlink or insert any relevant social media term here we can actually make a difference. We can show them that the fans have a voice and that the fans are fed up with the NHL/NHLPA. Trust me they do care about how many followers they have. Do we really need to follow the players on twitter during a lockout? I am sorry but the stuff they are posting shows that we do not need to feel sorry for them and they seem to be enjoying their time off. They are not being hurt by this lockout they are going to Vegas, Chicago for Ryder Cup, playing golf, and having an all-around good time. Fans do not want to see what you do on your free time when they work 9-5 jobs that pay very little and are not enjoyable and fulfilling they want to see you play hockey because yes you are exceptionally talented and deserve the money you make in the NHL but you should be playing in the NHL not Europe. What does that show? You don’t care about taking someone else’s job that makes pennies compared to you? These players who are losing jobs need to support a family. What about people’s businesses and livelihoods that rely on the NHL? Bar and restaurant owners will have empty seats and they will require less staff, removing jobs from our fragile economy and money from the pockets of people who actually need to make more money. Team twitter accounts are where there is a real dollar figure associated with followers. Promotions can reach a huge audience in seconds. Companies can get you in their CRM (definition?) database with one small promotion. There is tremendous value to an organizations follows and if we reduce that number substantially they will notice. The big business owners will take notice when their social media groups are losing fans left right and center. We do not want to hear from our favourite teams unless there is a season! Sure we may all go back and follow players and teams as soon as a CBA is agreed upon, but we can show the league that the fans have a voice and they want to be heard. This is not the previous lockout this is a lockout in 2012 where FANS DO HAVE A VOICE! THE FANS ARE SICK OF THE LABOUR DISPUTES! THIS IS THE FAULT OF BOTH THE OWNERS AND PLAYERS. WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PR MOVES! JOIN THE PROJECT AND UNFOLLOW NHL PLAYERS AND TEAMS! Twitter-@Unfollowhockey Email-unfollowhockey@hotmail.com
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    http://www.tsn.ca/wi...tory/?id=406758 I found this quote from Toews: "It's another disappointing but expected move from the league," Toews told the Chicago Tribune via text from Phoenix, where he is working with his personal trainer. "This seems to be our commissioner's bread and butter; it's almost like he is excited to take away hockey from the fans and the players just because he can." The longer it lasts the nastier it's going to get...
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    No one can sit here and defend Bettman. Bettman is ruining hockey in many respects. His job is to RUN THE LEAGUE. Since he took charge of the NHL, there have been 3 lockouts, one of which lasted an ENTIRE SEASON- - and this one does not look too promising. Simply put, allowing 3 lockouts is not doing his job. He is a terrible negotiator, and is running the league into the ground. On another note, the ONLY reason he still has the job is that he has pleased all of the poor ass teams that can't afford to run their own franchises. But if the league is locked out all year, these poor ass franchises will not ever be able to recover, and I think that will spell the end of Bettman finally.
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    Best current forward: Pavel Datsyuk (simply the best all around hockey player in the world) Best current Dman: Niklas Kronwall Best current goalie: Jimmy Howard On a side note, I also go to U of Windsor and I hear you guys from China are pretty smart, so if you can come up with a way to clone a younger version of Nick Lidstrom so that he can come back and play forever, please let us know!
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    Guest

    Z basically says Bettman should be fired

    Anybody that defends Bettman is a fool. Bettman is not responsible for the growth, in fact he has hindered it. Hockey has grown in popularity in the States because more kids became exposed to it because of international success the Americans have since the Miracle on Ice, something they have never had before. Bettman is the worst thing to ever happen to the game of hockey
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    esteef

    Z basically says Bettman should be fired

    "Speaks volumes" as in I'm on the player's side? How profound. esteef
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    Guest

    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    Do we really give a s*** how the owners and players feel? All that we care about is that we get to watch our game. And considering we flocked back to the game after the last lockout, we are most responsible for this one. It's only a game we watch for our amusement, it's their livelihood for Pete's sake
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    Dabura

    Project Unfollow-Hear the Fan's Voice

    We could burn Little Caesars Pizza pizza boxes outside the Joe.
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    rrasco

    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    BUT she's the hottest chic in school!
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    Esquire

    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    A relationship expert would tell you that if she cheats on you and you stay with her, you lose all her respect. And this Bettman/NHL ***** has already cheated on you 3 times now. It's time to end the relationship.
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    Jedi

    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    I dunno, 3 lockouts in 3 chances for Uncle Gary. If that's not reliable and consistent, I don't know what is...