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No, the admonishment could have been avoided if you could manage to disagree with someone without going the extra mile to say their argument has no value or merit. It's really all opinions here. If you disagree, disagree. But to repeatedly state something someone says has no value or merit is basically an insult.

The Rangers have talent, yes, and they're just about due to spend a boatload more money on it. Sather has been terrible for that organization.

How about we start putting a little more context in the thread title, eh? Anyways, Alain Vigneault might be able to turn this around for them. Sometimes all you need is a change.

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Shanny's jersey will not be retired becauae his body of work with the Red Wings isnt the vast majority of his body of work. If he had played 15-16 seasons with us and only 2-3 with NJ/St. Louis, then I think the argument would be a lot stronger.

No surprise here. The USA junior team just won gold recently. The young Americans are stacked! Keep it going boys!

Just because you disagree with something doesn't mean it is without validity or merit. His first point was that there are retired jerseys of Wings players who played on other teams. He's correct. If you restrict it to modern era then as you pointed out the two examples in Lidstrom and Yzerman played their entire career in Detroit. As far as I know though, there is not any official or even unofficial standard or one that's been spoken of by the organization. The two last players worthy of jersey retirement played their entire career in Detroit. That doesn't make it a rule.