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  1. 4 points
    LeftWinger

    Yzerplan Problems

    Fedorov was a wing on the Russian 5 line. Plus he also played D. Does any of this have anything to do with The Yzerplan? We have 2 pages of arguing about who played C and now plays W. This could be it's own thread. Yzerplan. I, as well as most people, tend to give Yzerman lots of leash and lots of passes because he's such an icon here. If Holland were still GM, we'd (still) be calling for him to be fired if he made the same moves or lack of moves that Yzerman has. Especially after this past TDL. While I don't really have too much of a problem with his plan so far, but if you think of a couple of other teams that were also rebuilding the same time we were (Rangers, Canucks, Devils) we are still way behind in our rebuild. Although Rangers and Devils have been gifted 1st overall and in some cases, multiple #1s, and top 4s. But nonetheless, we are still way behind them despite having top 10 picks the last 6 or 8 years. Holland absolutely killed us with Zadina. Vancouver drafted ahead of us the year prior and just behind us the Zadina year. Not going D that year was the most...nevermind that could be yet another thread! Point being, they were rebuilding the same time we were and now look at them compared to us. I'm not convinced Lalonde is the guy to lead them either. My biggest question with the plan was, why did he keep Blashill around so long? That makes me afraid that he'll just keep Lalonde around far, far too much longer than he should. Obviously we weren't there when he was interviewing coaches, so we don't know who he called or who wasn't interested. It just seems Lalonde was the guy no matter what. IMO there were at least 3 better choices. Larionov, Fedorov and Grönborg. Fedorov being the wildcard. But they didn't call Igor The Professor for no reason. Nobody thinks the game like he does. Again, maybe these guys weren't interested, but to me, it just seemed like Lalonde was his guy from the start, and he wasn't going to consider anyone else. I would've liked to have seen a coach that was new and had ideas that 31 other coaches don't already have. There's nothing special about Lalonde. Nothing that sets him apart. And my one gripe about TDL. I think Roslovic could've and would've been an upgrade to our top 9 and think most definitely he would've been worth the 4th(3rd) that Rangerd paid for him.
  2. 3 points
    Neither Chiarot nor Petry are especially good defensively. Petry should be a 7th defenseman and Chiarot should be paired with someone who can actually defend. Also, it wouldn't kill Chiarot to actually play physical (with someone other than Raymond) once in a while. The two most frustrating things about this team's play (not roster construction) are their half-assed passing and their absolute unwillingness to finish a goddamn check. If you're not counted on to score you better be grinding guys down. I have to think that Derek doesn't want guys doing it because there's no other reason why Ras, Veleno, Fischer, Copp, Chiarot, Petry, Maatta, Walman, or Fabbri don't finish checks. It drives me absolutely crazy.
  3. 3 points
    Am I missing sumthin, or does Scott not like Chiarot?
  4. 2 points
    Time for blood Gas gas gas Dont stop scoring or fighting Send this faux franchise back to the hellish desert they crawled out of. No city should even exist there. Phoenix is a testement to mans arrogance. Ice hockey in the desert is an abomination to gods will. And also, hope all the players have fun! LGRW
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  7. 2 points
    I need a win and get into playoffs as I jumped the gun and got tat showing the Wings won the 2024 Stanley cup tat on my chest. Lose this one and I might need to have it lazered off. Perhaps the combo of a Scott GDT and the Patch is a sign for the team to be garbage. We win and I anoint Troy for future GDTs we lose then F it and we blame the patch. Wings pull their heads out of their collective arses get back to basics and win 5 - 1 in last 2 minutes we have a dandy fight between RayRay and Ben giving both a Gordie Hattie
  8. 2 points
    If we're down by 2 after the 1st period tomorrow night - I'm hoping the team heads in to the locker room with a chorus of boos echoing throughout the LCA.
  9. 2 points
    total conjecture maybe Derek begged SY to go get him a couple guys to help and SY said "back to kitchen with you beotch!"
  10. 2 points
    Im content to just let the guy bury himself at this point. SY took a pretty big gamble letting Derek keep his team team together, only for them to fall flat on thier faces (again and again). Id be livid right now if I was SY
  11. 2 points
    The 91 of Ryans

    2024 Offseason Thread

    Raymond and Chiarot just had a scuffle in practive today/ Had to be separated. LOL
  12. 2 points
    LeftWinger

    2024 Offseason Thread

    at this point, all may be lost. We have fallen out of the playoffs, when just 2 weeks ago we were 12 points in a spot. Can't sell now, so what can we do to make next year better? It's of utmost importance to get Kane convinced that next season is going to be THE season we make some noise. We have to convince him that we are going to trim the garbage and upgrade the team from outside and within! Get this man signed ASAP! I'd keep Fischer around as well, although he might not want to stay. Here are my subtractions, and by any means necessary. Perron - Walk, he is just too old and his skill is diminishing. I would welcome a coaching role though. Sprong - Walk, he's had the last 6 games to prove he is worth a big payday and that he can carry a team, he's failed. Let someone else pay him. Fabbri - Trade, this has come to an end. He is no longer top 9 material and we have better prospects or can replace him via UFA. Ghost - Walk, it was fun while it lasted. Again, a chance to carry a team on his shoulders and he failed. He does have 42 points though ...so, maybe? Holl - Trade, at whatever the return, it just has not worked out. Chiarot - Trade, while a bit better this season, just not going to be justified keeping his cap hit. Petry - Buyout, not worth keeping, even for a 7th guy. Time to retire, Peaches. Reimer - Walk, no explanation necessary Husso - Trade, he is not a starting goalie and he has become injury prone. I'd even consider buying out his last year. Ok, additions (re-sign) to make this team a playoff team: Kane - Obviously. Fischer - Re-sign, very serviceable 4th liner. Seider, Raymond, Veleno - Re-sign, first two obviously, but I'd have Veleno on a short lease. He's my first casualty next season if we get bad again. Berggren, (Mazur or Kasper), Edvinsson, Johansson - Promote permanently I don't think we're going to be able to afford to sign a top UFA D or G, these will have to come via trade. Although I would try hard for Hanfin, but I feel he's going to Boston. Chychrun, Ullmark, Saros, Andersson, there's just too many options and these all depend on availability. There are a lot of interesting UFA forwards that we could upgrade to, but it's going to cost money! That is why trading the contracts above will be a necessity. Few examples for top 6: Stamkos - I'd try to coax him away, he would slot right in our top 6 opposite Raymond with Compher at C. (or does he actually play C? ) Geuntzel, Bertuzzi, Tarasenko Middle 6: DeBrusk, Foegele, Roslovic, even Mantha, just to name a few. We're going to be a lottery team again, hopefully we can get a top 10 pick.
  13. 2 points
    We need to make the EASY move first and see what happens. Chiarot - Bench. In Edvinsson. Petry - Bench. In Johansson. Make that change first and see if we move in a positive direction. I'm 100% sure we will. But start with trying that. Letting Chiarot and Petry put us in the hole every game just can't continue.
  14. 2 points
    I'm too fed up to even be a jerk to any of you right now
  15. 2 points
    Screw this. If this team can't be bothered to actually try to win games, why should I be bothered to watch
  16. 2 points
    Troy McClure

    Yzerplan Problems

    Look... do you think Stamkos is a center or not?
  17. 1 point
    We need more people here. This site is dead
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  19. 1 point
    It reminds me of Blash... like we're STILL trying to play like the post-Bowman Wings. PP is our enforcer, subtle interference, possesion oriented, non-physical cutesy euro style, BS. We need a coach with the balls to stop trying to ram idealistic systems down the teams throat, and actually come up with something original that maximizes the the strengths of the roster. Like im not even surprised Kostin didnt even work out for a full season. But why go out and get guys like that if youre not gonna use them properly anyway. My jimmies are starting to get rustled again
  20. 1 point
    Yeah because buying out Yamamoto and eating Simek for a 7th is regarded. Rather just keep Kostin down the stretch. Either buy some aid or sell our valued pieces. I still like Ben. Hes been shaky the last few games, but hes been eating big minutes for this team all year. Petry was a mistake, and Ben would be better IMO with a decent partner.
  21. 1 point
    GMRwings1983

    During the Season 2024 Thread

    These crybabies complained about losing their buddies last year at the deadline. Yzerman needs to go full Tywin Lannister on these fools in the future.
  22. 1 point
    Makes me want to pull hair out. Not buying is fuqqing insane. Not selling Kane if you dont want to buy is fuqqing insane. SY and Newsie both have got my jimmies RUSTLED
  23. 1 point
    I think more likely it ends up evening out because most US states without income tax tend to have higher property tax. IDK about Canada, but I suspect they are the most fuqqede by this. God bless America. I do have a notice of "REFUSAL OF ENTRY TO THE STATE OF ISREAL" framed in my home.
  24. 1 point
    Why's that? The only difference in their games is that Point scores marginally more. Which is to be expected when you play your entire career on a Cup contender with Nikita Kucherov as a linemate. Larkin's been on a rebuilding team his whole career and until this year his best winger was Tyler Bertuzzi. Otherwise they're extremely similar players both in style and in production.
  25. 1 point
    It's possible he already did. Lucas Raymond is scoring about as much as Mitch Marner and Nikita Kucherov did at the same age. Seider is playing like an elite 1D, and is probably ahead of where any other "elite" defenseman was at this age. If his point totals don't reflect it that's because he's been asked to eat defensive minutes, against top competition, more than comparable elite players. Victor Hedman wasn't out there starting in the defensive zone 60% of the time when he was Seider's age. Didn't score as well as Seider does either. We've all got this impression that "elite" looks like McDavid, or Mackinnon, or Hughes, or Matthews but it doesn't always. Elite might look like Bergeron and Pastrnak, or Kopitar and Doughty. We'd better hope so anyway. The challenge for Yzerman is to figure out how to build around the talent we do have and not hold out hope for a particular type of talent we don't have. The good news is that we've got a Brayden Point level 1C in Larkin. We've got a Sergachev (or better) in Edvinsson. We've got a Markstrom (or maybe Demko) in Cossa. Maybe we have a Quinn Hughes in ASP. I really do believe that the pieces are there, but I think we've got to start playing winning hockey. Integrating these guys onto winning rosters. Letting them see what it takes to be a playoff team in the NHL on a day by day, game by game basis. And that's not going to happen if we get THIS close to the playoffs and our front office refuses to put their thumb on the scale a push us over the top.