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You know, they say all teams are created equal, but you look at the Wings and you look at the Leafs, and you can see that statement is not true! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another team, you got a 50-50 chance of winnin’. But Filip Hronek is a genetic freak, and not normal, so you got a 25% at best at beatin’ him! And then you add Ville Husso to the mix? Your chances of winnin’ drastically go down. See, between those two, at LCA, you got a 33 and 1/3 chance of wiinnin’. But the Wings got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, cause Auston Matthews KNOWS he can’t beat the Wings, and he’s not even gonna try! So, Mitch Marner, you take your 33 and 1/3 chance, minus Husso's 25 percent chance, and you got an 8 and 1/3 chance of winnin’ at the LCA! But then you take Kubalik's 75 perchance chance at winnin’, if we was to go one-on-one, and add 66 and 2/3 ch… percents, the Wings got a 141 and 2/3 chance of winnin at the LCA! See, Tavares McPajamaboy; the numbers don’t lie, and they spell disaster for you at the Pizza Palace!

>believing the wings will ever have a legit 2C

"Some scouts question his offense but here's 20 clips of him absolutely bullying adult men when he's 18 years old".

I think the Larkin deal gets done. I'm not at all convinced that the reason he isn't signed yet is because of HIM and not SY. He's having the best season of his career. Imagine if he'd signed in the offseason for 8 million (or whatever) when he's likely above 9 million now. Maybe he wants to play most of the season out to increase his value? Bert's trickier. I absolutely love the player but his value is hard to determine. He's been injured most of his career. But when he wasn't he had some really solid seasons. So, is he a 6 million dollar winger or a 7.5 million dollar winger? And how do you know what you're getting going forward when there's no track record. There's not a chance in hell that his agent and SY agree on that value and we're running out of time before the TDL for him to prove to SY which player he is. You might very well be better off trading him, getting the assets, and throw that 6-7 million at a guy like Horvat.

I think I saw recently that Fabbri is practicing with the team and I'm pretty sure Ken or Mick said he was ahead of schedule during one of the broadcasts.

Id bring up Edvinsson. Please enlighten me as to why Seider HAS to have a "stay at home" partner. Are you pretending Seider is Cale Makar and playing a 200' game? The reality is MORITZ SEIDER is the defensive stalwart in his pairing. Not some offensive dynamo risk taker. He needs a dman that backs off the opposition with transition and offense, not one that causes him to play defense more because of a very limited offensive upside and marginal skating.

Seider plays the most minutes on the team. Is #1 on the PP and PK. Leads the team in blocked shots. Leads Dmen in hits. On pace for a 41 pt season. If this is him at his worst I think I'll be alright. Who we need to use a distraction for blame is this Ben Chiarot guy. Who is he? I never wanted him. What was SY thinking? He ruined our defense.

It was Berggren

Refs are favoring Detroit - that call on Girgensons was BS Ras demonstrates his concrete mits but draws the penalty. Ill take it. Buffalo color guy just said "holy jumpin" on that Anderson save - f*** the sabres

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Says you. My boy Horvat is on his way. I'm pumped. In two years time our center depth will be Larkin-Horvat-Kasper-Ras with Raymond, Vrana, Copp, and Kubalik on the wings in the top six. We're gonna wreck shop old son.

If Michael Rasmussen flourishes in the 2C role it will be the culmination of my time here on LGW.

Berggren scores. Zadina doesn't.

I gotta admit that I like Bear Grin's game so far. It's not like he is light years better than Zadina, but he definitely is not any worse.

Oh god Larkin is gonna string us along and sign with CBJ isnt he

Bo Horvat can suck my baby dick Only way Bert is "good as gone" is if he's a pure merc who's only after the money. If that's the case so be it, but im not wholly convinced yet that it is. SY can afford to keep both, even at overpayments, with a good amount of cap left over. So really it comes down to Bertuzzi and if he wants to be a Wing, or if he wants a bidding war for his services this summer. And there will be a bidding war if the rumors from the last TDL are any indication.

So he IS gonna be moved? Gotcha.

Also, anybody else REALLY excited about this guy?

I hope he turns it around.

Robin Lehner was traded a few years after his drug/alcohol problems in Buffalo. Buffalo let him go UFA and then he signed a 1 year with the Isles, then a 1 year with the Hawks who flipped him at the TDL to Vegas. I don't remember if he actually entered official NHL assistance program with Buffalo, but he was pretty public about his issues and I know he went to rehab for it. Without speculating, I'm not really that worried about Vrana. All these guys use painkillers to one extent or another, and a lot of them abuse cocaine/alcohol recreationally. It's not like Vrana's career was going into the gutter like Bobby Ryan and THEN he decided to get help. He was in his prime and playing well, but recognized he had a problem he needed to fix. Which is good. I guess the worry is that he might be another Hudler. Party animal that brings coke on planes, drinks himself stupid, and buys hookers in every town. If that's the case I trust SY to handle it. Stevie seems to have a very low tolerance for BS. I can see him telling Vrana you either get into the PA program now or you're done in Detroit. And if he can't keep his nose clean after this good riddance. Trade him for what we can get. We have plenty of good wingers. The trade tree for that right now looks like this in terms of what everyone received: WSH: Mantha DET: Vrana + Sundqvist + Walman + Staal + Gagner (90%) + H. Verbeek + DAL 1st (Cossa) + WSH 2nd (Buchnelikov) + VAN 2nd (Niederbach) + LAK 4th (Stange) + STL 2nd DAL: WSH 1st (Johnston) + NYR 2nd (Grushnikov) + OTT 5th (Bar) NYI: EDM 2nd (Raty) + Richard Panik (50%) STL: Leddy (50%) + Witkowski EDM: Athanasiou + Kuffner NYR: Future Considerations LAK: EDM 2nd (Faber) + Schaller + Madden MTL: Merrill VAN: Toffoli We walked away with a very nice haul from all those trades.