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  1. 4 points
    Hi, I'm Tyler Wright. You may remember me from 1st round picks such as Filip Zadina, Dennis Cholowski, Michael Rasmussen, Evgeni Svechnikov, Joe Veleno, Anthony Mantha, Reid Schaefer (EDM), Xavier Bourgalt (EDM), and Ryan Murray (CBJ). And now the good folks at LA Kings Studios and I are proud to bring you our newest 1st round selection: Henry Breauswitz Ya know, when Ken Holland asked me to join his staff and become a big time Hollywood star with him, I couldn't have been happier. We've developed a long history together of my phone number being the only actors number that he can remember. And that history between us was built upon a solid foundation of trial and error. Trial and error that resulted in the decemation of two other franchises prospect pools. But it's exactly that trial and error that's taught us both an important lesson; that sometimes it's better to triple down and change nothing about your staff or drafting strategy. And that's why Ken and I believe that this time it will work. Some say Hollywood actors like us are stupid. But we tell them we were only pretending to be stupid, and they believed it. Now that's good acting! We know our fans are going to fall in love with Henry Breautswitz once they see him out on the silver screen. And very soon you'll be able to watch him skate in countries such as Russia, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Finland, and possibly even the Slovakian B league. So renew those season tickets, and say that good ol LA Kings Studios slogan: It's perfectly natural to try the same thing over and over and expect different results
  2. 4 points
    Pretty good to remember how this rebuild started when complaing about whats taking so long.
  3. 4 points
    “We cannot bear for our most mysterious experiences to remain unexplained. I've therefore learned...that every story has worth, since a person takes the time to tell it. The key is to listen.” ― Josh Gates Today we are going to break down each and every Steve Yzerman trade as the GM of Our Detroit Red Wings. Both the player being acquired, dealt, and the draft pick being acquired, dealt. A lot of the first trades was just him trying to dig out of Ken Hollands hole, and that was a DEEP hole, so the player being acquired may not have been a star, but it was a small to larger upgrade. This could be long, so buckle up! Tampa ended up trading 93rd OA pick to Philly (Zayde Wisdom) for a 2020 4th (Eamon Powell) and a 2020 5th (Jaydon Dureau) of which all three have ZERO NHL games played. Erne played 4 seasons in Detroit scoring 62 points in 241 games. Winner - Detroit again, in an attempt to dig out of the hole, the D was ATROCIOUS, Yzerman dealt away some youth for veteran Alex Biega. Biega played 2 seasons in Detroit playing in 62 games, meanwhile Pope has played ZERO NHL games. Winner - Detroit Staying on topic of trying to make the team a little better, bit by bit, Perlini played 39 games in Detroit, while Regula played 22 games (in three seasons) in Chicago. Considering that Regula was a prospect at the time of being traded, he had a brighter future, yet after being dealt from Chicago to Boston (along with Ian Mitchell for Taylor Hall and Nick Foligno (Chicago won that trade)) he never played in the NHL again after the Chicago trade. Ia am giving this trade a win for Detroit. Winner - Detroit Robby Fabbri (although injured quite often) played 5 years, amongst 234 games in Detroit, netting 127 points. De La Rose only played 47 games, netting 6 points with St. Louis, and hasn't played in the NHL since 2021. Fabbri is still playing as of the end of the 2025 NHL season. Winner - Detroit Comrie bounced around a lot that season, played 2 games in Detroit after being acquired, losing both of them before being waived and claimed by The Jets. Saarijarvi neve stepped foot in the NHL and has returned to Europe. This is a wash IMO. Winner - None Trade of minor league players, each played 35 games in the AHL after the trade and have moved on to other teams (non-NHL.) Wood is in the KHL(Kunlan Red Star) and Kaski in the SHL(HV71) Winner - None Kyle Brodziak never played in Detroit, or the NHL ever again, the 4th round pick was Jan Bednar. Bednar never got a chance in Detroit, played only 4 games in Grand Rapids, but has played 76 games in Toledo, including 37 last season. Mike Green played 2 games for Edmonton and never played again. I would consider this a win for Detroit since Bednar is still in the organization and contributing to Toledo's success. Winner - Detroit On the same day, another trade was made with Edmonton, this one had a lot more meat on the bones. AA was nice player in Detroit, but had defensive issues. Yzerman, again, was looking at ways to dig out of a hole by acquiring draft picks to start some sort of rebuild. AA never seen any success like he had in Detroit, he only played 9 games for Edmonton, moved on to LA for a bit and Chicago where he was waived last season after only 8 games played. Kuffner was signed as a UFA by Detroit out of Princeton and actually played 10 games in the NHL with them. He never played for Edmonton, or in the NHL again after the trade. Sam Gagner played 3 years and 129 games in Detroit, netting 47 points. The draft picks went as follows: 2020 2nd round pick was traded to LA (Brock Faber) for a 2020 2nd (Theodor Neiderbach) and a 2020 5th (Sam Stange.) The 2021 2nd round pick was traded to NYI (Atu Raty) along with Richard Panik for Nick Leddy (we'll hit those details later on!) Considering Sam Gagner played for Detroit for 3 years, we are giving Detroit the win. (Despite trading away what turned out to be Raty) Winner - Detroit Marc Staal played 2 seasons in Detroit, 127 games, 26 points. New York was looking to clear cap space. Considering it was for Future Considerations, Detroit wins this one. Winner - Detroit Merrill was a numbers game, and was dealt away. He only played 13 games in Montreal, yet has gone on to be pretty solid in Minnisota for the last 4 seasons. Verbeek split 2 seasons between GR and Toledo, and then left to Europe. The 2021 5th round pick was dealt to Dallas (Jack Bar - Zero NHL games) in the deal that allowed Detroit to draft Cossa. Winner - Detroit The first blockbuster of Yzerman's tenure. Mantha was supposed to be a super-star in Detroit, but was very inconsistent. He did play 4 years in Washington, netting 92 points before being dealt to VGK. Panik played all of 12 games in Detroit before being traded to NYI, and Vrana who seemed to be on a fast track to stardom with 32 points in 42 games, pissed in someone's cheerios and got dealt to St. Louis for Dylan McLaughlin and 7th round pick in 2025. McLaughlin never played in the NHL for Detroit. Vrana played 2 season in St. Louis, 41 games, before pissing in the cheerios again. He spent last season in Nashville, playing in 13 games. The draft picks are interesting. Detroit ended up trading the 22nd OA pick to Dallas (Wyatt Johnson) a 2021 2nd round pick (Artem Grushnikov) and a 2021 5th (Jack Bar) for the 2021 15th OA pick, thus drafting Sebastian Cossa. For the segment of the trade tree, I give the win to Detroit because of the Cossa draft. Winner - Detroit Detroit, still in need of making their D better, pulled this deal for Leddy. Yet, Leddy only played 55 games in Detroit before being traded to St. Louis in the Fabbri deal, and although Panik only played 4 games on the Isle, the fact that Detroit lost out on Aatu Raty gives them the loss on this one. Even though Raty was later moved in a blockbuster to Vancouver giving the Isles Bo Horvat, Wings still would've been better off with Raty. (that is IF they would've drafted him.) Winner - Islanders This 2021 3rd round pick was originally owned by VGK and was acquired in the trade of Tomas Tatar back in the Holland era, Carolina drafted Aidan Kreschuk, who just finished his senior year at Boston College last season. Bernier was a pending UFA, and never suited up for the Canes, so by default we are going to give this one to Detroit, even though Ned has moved on, although he did play 74 games for Detroit in 2 seasons here. Winner - Detroit Mitchell Stephens was a fine role player for Detroit, he played 27 games while there. He has since moved on to Montreal and last season in Seattle. The 2022 6th round pick was moved by Tampa to LA in a deal getting them 2022 3rd (Lucas Edmonds) and LA drafted Jared Wright. Neither prospect has seen the NHL, Wright won a National Championship at U of D, and Edmonds is currently playing for the Hartford Wolfpack in the AHL. Since we're not sure how these prospects will turn out, let's give this a wash. Winner - None Now we are getting into draft picks that have yet to make the NHL or even the AHL due to still being in JR or College. Detroit used this pick to select Brennan Ali who is currently a sophomore at Notre Dame. The Wings have until August 15, 2027 to sign him to an ELC or he becomes a UFA. Right now, Detroit is still on top of this deal. Winner - Detroit Vladdy was a popular player in Detroit, and loved being there considering he grew up in the Lockeroom watching his uncle Slave Kozlov play. He only played 15 games in Dallas. Detroit drafted goalie Landon Miller with the 4th round pick, he just finished his 4th season in The Soo and is still Detroit property. They have until June 1,2026 to sign him to an ELC. It could be a long road though considering the Wings have Cossa, Augustine and Rudy Guimond ahead of him on the depth chart. But he is only one season removed from his draft year, so we will see what happens. Considering the kid is still in the system, we'll give this one a Detroit win. Winner - Detroit This is pretty much looked like a big win for Detroit. Witkowski didn't go on to do much for St. Louis, but Leddy is still there enjoying the last 4 seasons playing. Sunqvist and Walman played big roles in Detroit but have both since been traded. The 2nd round pick was used to draft Andrew Gibson, who has also since been traded. Initially the trade looked lopsided for Detroit considering Sunqvist played 70 games in Detroit amongst 2 seasons and Walman saw 1st pairing minutes alongside Seider. He played 145 games in Detroit before being cast off to San Jose. Both his and Sunqvist's trades are coming up later. I am going to have to give this initial trade to Detroit, even though in the end of the trade tree, Leddy is still going in St. Louis. Winner - Detroit Again, another goaltender who had Vezina numbers (Like Ned) and Detroit steals for a bargain. St. Louis used the pick to draft Aleksanteri Kaskimaki, who remains in their system playing his 1st full AHL season last year in Springfield. Husso seemed like he was going to be the buffer for Cossa to arrive, he played 3 seasons in Detroit, 84 games, but injuries doomed him, and after Detroit had Lyon and Talbot on the roster, he became expendable. He was dealt last season. Initial winner was Detroit, but right now, if Kaskimaki makes a jump to the NHL, they might be. We'll give it a tie. If the prospect faulters out, then Detroit wins Winner - Both (for now) In an exchange of AHL players this was a very minor move. Winner - None Ok, 2nd blockbuster IMO, of Yzerman's tenure. Hronek just couldn't find a spot here in Detroit. He has thrived on the 1st pairing with Quinn Hughes (damn you Holland!) and has found a home. The 4th round pick was Ty Mueller who spent all of last year in Abbotsford, but has played 2 games in Vancouver. The 1st round pick wound up not being transferred to 2024,thankfully because, with that pick Detroit drafted Axel Sandin- Pelikka who just happens to be ranked one of the NHL's top prospects. The 2nd round pick was traded to Nashville (Felix Nilsson) for a later 2nd (Brady Cleveland) and a 5th round (Kevin Bicker) both of which are still Wings property. Hands down, despite Hronek doing well in VAN, Detroit wins this trade on prospects alone. Winner - Detroit Boom! Yet another blockbuster! The 2024 first found it's way back to Boston (after the Detroit Debrincat trade.) The 4th ended up being a conditional pick in the Jeff Petry deal, the condition was the LESS favorable of Boston or Detroit's 4th. I guess since Detroit finished ahead of Boston, Montreal will get Detroit's 4th. But the same condition was put on the trade that sent Fabbri to Anaheim with a 4th, so I guess that the Boston 4th goes on to Anaheim. BUT they trade that conditional 4th to NYR in the Jacob Trouba deal, so in the end NYR gets Boston's 4th in 2025. Whew! At the time, since nobody knew Debrincat was coming, and Bertuzzi did really well in Boston, we are going to give this a tie, since 1st round picks are hard to come by. Winner - Both This was a dump of a pending UFA for draft capital. Detroit drafted D-Man Larry Keenen who just finished up his first season at UMass-Amherst. Sundqvist only played 15 games in Minny before going back to St. Louis as a UFA. Gotta give Detroit the nof here since Keenen is still a prospect. Winner - Detroit This one had us scratching our heads. Vrana seemed like he was getting back to playing well in Detroit after his stint in player assistance program. But he could not crack the lineup consistently for whatever reason and wound up being cast off to St. Louis. as stated above McLaughlin never played in Detroit. We'll see what the 7th round pick brings, since the still own it, but don't hold your breath. Vrana did ok for St. Louis, but walked as a UFA in 2024. No winner here really, unless the 7th round pick is a diamond find! Winner - None Pretty much just a favor to Kampfer to try to get him some NHL time. Although it didn't really work out in Arizona either. He has since left for the KHL. Winner - None In this draft day swap of picks we saw the Predators and Wings trade resulting in Nashville drafting Nilsson and Detroit drafting Cleveland and Bicker. Winner - TBD This seemed to be a slam dunk for Detroit. They immediately bought out Yamamoto, then signed Kostin to an extension. Yzerman was very high on Kostin, but he couldn't find an everyday job under Coach LaLonde. He was traded away after only playing 33 games for Detroit. I guess since Kostin played 33 games, Detroit wins this trade. Winner - Detroit BOOM! Blockbuster again! Detroit definitely won this trade outright initially. Kubalik didn't do too much in Ottawa, 74 games only 15 points. Sebrango has played 2 games in Ottawa and remains in their system. The 2024 4th they used to pick Javon Moore, who is still playing at Sioux Falls in the USHL. The 2024 1st found it's way back to Boston getting Ottawa Linus Ullmark. Debrincat has thrived in Detroit, playing in Detroit. He has played in 164 games scoring 137 points. He scored 39 goals last season, the first to score that many since Hossa scored 40 in 08-09. Many will say Detroit hands down won this trade, but is Ottawa too upset with having acquired Ullmark via that 1st? They are in the playoffs and Detroit has missed out again. Both Debrincat and Ullmark have signed extensions, so it has worked on for both. BUT in this initial trade, Detroit is definitely the winner. Winner - Detroit Lindstrom couldn't find a home in Detroit and was out of waiver eligibility. Yzerman was in need of a RHD and Petry became available. Considering Lindstrom only played 14 games in Montreal and Petry finished out his contract in Detroit, 117 games played, despite him being a shell of his former self, we have to give this win to Detroit. Winner - Detroit The first of a few head-scratchers. Yzerman really like Kostin, yet under LaLonde he couldn't find a daily job, this trade was just maybe a favor to him? He is still in San Jose and playing more than he did in Detroit. Simek never seen Detroit and only played 9 games in GR. Winner - San Jose (won't be the first one!) Another exchange of AHL players. McIssac was a Holland draft pick in the early 2nd round of 2018. He was touted a 1st round pick by many. But injuries kept him down and he never saw Detroit. Neither player has seen any NHL games even after the deal. Winner - None Ugh... you knew this one was coming. We'll never know why Walman fell out of favor in Detroit, but it is what it is. And considering what San Jose flipped him for, only puts salt in the wound... With that 2nd round pick, San Jose chose Leo Sahlin Wallenius, who has yet to come over from Europe. Clear winner here... Winner - San Jose This is the 2nd round pick that Detroit sent San Jose in the Walman deal, Detroit sent Gibson to Nashville for Kiiskinen and that 2nd. Kiiskinen has yet to sign a ELC and remains in Europe, Gibson was singed by Detroit prior to the trade but has yet to crack the Nashville or AHL lineup. He spent last season still in the OHL in Oshawa. No winner as of yet. Slight edge to Nashville because Gibson has a contract. Detroit has until June 1, 2027 to sign Kiiskinen to a ELC. Winner - Slight win to Nashville Another strange one. Fabbri seemed like a good fit in the core here (despite his injuries) and was pretty solid. He played 44 games in Anaheim last season, probably got injured out there too. The 4th round pick did a lot of bouncing and ended up going back to Boston in the Trouba deal. Gage Alexander played 1 game in Toledo and is an RFA now. Win goes to Anaheim IMO. Winner - Anaheim This was a numbers game, Maatta was just the odd man out. We'll see what the 3rd round pick brings. Detroit will pick 75th and 76th in this round. Maatta has signed a 3 year extension with Utah. Winner - Right now Utah Having too many goalies in Detroit, something needed to happen. Husso was waived a couple of times, with no takers, Anaheim did Detroit a solid by taking him off their hands. He did play 4 games in Anaheim. Winner - Detroit by ditching the contract This one seemed like Yzerman was just trying to help his old buddy Brisebois out. Aucoin was unsigned and remains that way in Tampa. They have until August 15, 2025 to sign him or he'll become a UFA. We'll see which 4th round pick Detroit gets, and go from there to determine a winner. I guess if Tampa does well in the playoffs and Gourde is key, they'd win. Winner - TBD Finally this last one! Veleno just wasn't going to make it in Detroit, and it looked like Yzerman wanted to acquire a couple of vets to try to make a playoff push. Veleno did play 18 games in Chicago and had 7 points. In Detroit Mrazek got injured, but he played 5 games, going 2-2 and Smith played in 19 games and had 2 points. I guess in the end, Chicago got a solid young center, that needed a change of scenery. Depending on what happens with Mrazek next year, we'll see who the winner is. Winner - TBD ...so there you have it, all of Yzerman's trades, not too bad, a couple of blockbuster wins and a few headscratchers, but all in all, he has made this team better via the trade market. Maybe next time we'll discuss the draft picks (after 2025 draft) and the UFA's (after July 1.) Maybe we'll have more trades to add to this topic! I hope you enjoyed this!
  4. 3 points
    kipwinger

    Rumors Thread

    Apparently it's time for my yearly reminder that Erik Karlsson isn't any good. I'm not really sure why I have to keep telling everyone this. We can prove this, statistically. He scored 53 total points. He had 38 even strength points and got SCORED ON 62 times, accounting for his whopping -24 +/-. So that means he only scored 15 powerplay points, 9 fewer than Mo Seider. Now let's put it all together. He's a net negative at even strength, he'll get scored on much more often than he'll score. He's also worse than our own internal PP quarterback, and that's the BEST part of his game. And he does ALL THAT for one of the worst contracts in the league. He's horrible and SY would be retarded to trade for him.
  5. 3 points
    Jimmybigrigs69

    2025 Offseason Thread

    Two nasty punctures. But kid took it like a champ. Wanted to go right back to playing imeadately.
  6. 3 points
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL-UifzsEKu/?igsh=OTA4cGZsYWIzaXQ4
  7. 3 points
    Some great UFAs still remaining........... Gustav Nyquist Tomas Tatar Pius Suter Jakub Vrana Daniel Sprong Klim Kostin Anthony Mantha Andreas Athanasiou Joe Veleno Robby Fabbri Christian Fischer Craig Smith Tyler Motte Luke Glendening Brendan Smith Jon Merrill James Reimer
  8. 3 points
    Tarasenko is gone! Hooray! Thank you... MINNESOTA my favorite team. $23+ mil in cap space for tmrw now...
  9. 3 points
    The Italian stallion is done in the NHL isnt he? He's just never provided... anything. No identity as a player. He's akin to Joakim Andersson or Cory Emmerton. Just completely replaceable. That 2018 draft is nightmare fuel. Holland really cooked us. We had the 6th, the 30, the 33, and the 36th. Zadina is in Europe. Probably Joe now too. Berggren is a weak perimeter forward that probably doesnt survive the next 2 years on this team. And McIsaac is barely surviving in the Czech league. Wild.
  10. 3 points
    The player I really hope the Wings draft in the 1st round is....... Nobody! Trade the fuking pick!
  11. 3 points
    Hope you had a nice Easter Left. Well done on the rundown, I agree with about 99% of it. Caveat, I'd make... Since rejoining Detroit SY has dominated the trades in which he appears to have been able to sit back and work the tradeblock. Not so much when he's NEEDED to get something done and forced it. To use Fabbri as an example... I highly doubt SY originally coveted Fabbri or had his eye on him. But when he found out the underutilized player could be had cheap, he took a swing. However, when all of the sudden he felt he needed to move on from Fabbri ASAP, suddenly he's tripping over his own shoes. Staying with Fabbri, besides the reactive trade for him being good, and the proactive trading him away being bad, the timeline of events surrounding the former trade alludes to the lack of a grandiose plan. Surely SY would have known that guys he wanted to make plays for, like Stamkos, would have more than likely been available in the offseason, and that he needed to clear space to make a bid for them. If he didn't, that would show a level of incompetence, and would prove their isnt a grand stradegy at play... So if we give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he indeed had the foresight to see that coming, his decision ultimately was to not clear that space at the oppurtune time to do so (The TDL) and instead reluctantly give Fabbri away for nothing a few months later... only to lose out on the asset (Stamkos) he made that move to acquire. Sure... he wanted to make the playoffs... but if he wanted to make it that badly, he shouldve added to his roster at the TDL instead of doing nothing. And I'll support that by saying...look at what Kane and Larkin just said in this years exit interviews. The team was stumbling, getting hurt, but still fighting, and then the shot-in-the-arm/support at the TDL didnt come... and it continued to falter from there. Said in not so many words by our own leaders. Back to Fabbri, one could argue he didnt know he'd have to sell so insanely low on him in the summer, or that maybe there was no market for Fabs at the TDL. But there was a market for plenty of players like him, and its beyond obvious to everyone that there isnt the same market for players in summer as there is at TDLs. To add insult to injury, its rumored he could not get the stamkos deal done bc he did not get prior approval from Illitch. Indicating more lack of planning. And in the case of Walman, he did not even attempt to waive him - and Grier and other GMs indicated that they wouldve claimed him if done so - indicating another rash unplanned decision. And as a sidenote you had the agents in the agent pole this year literally stating there is no "plan" in Detroit. MY POINT IS THIS There is no plan. There is no grand stratedgy to what he's building. Yzerman is any fan with an Xbox playing GM mode. He's reacting often in the moment without much thought to whats to come. Is this terrible horrible bad news? No. But we do need to put the "yzerplan" narrative to rest. He's been exceptional at trades when he can sit back, take his time, and evaluate the block/market. He's been bad when he buys into his own teams hype, sits back and does nothing, and then feels forced to make panic trades later because of his own inaction. Not giving him a pass. I would like to see more and better planning, and a clearer direction. Its precisely his LACK of trades as of late that have been our downfall, not his wins and loses.
  12. 3 points
    Jimmybigrigs69

    Rumors Thread

    To be fair to stevie, im not convinced anyone else could do better. Hes hit on his 1st round picks (the ones you NEED to hit on) and his trading ability is actually very good. But i am seriously confused by, and disagree with, his lack of direction. As well his coaching choices. You can be the Scotty Bowman of GMs, but an inability to acquire the right personel or lead this team in a distinct direction will sink even the best. So basically i dont think hes a bad GM/hockey brain, but I do think he has made serious mistakes at this point. Mistakes he may come to regret.
  13. 3 points
    Larkin is a 2C on a good team. Every other center on this team is a 3C at best on a good team. Every bottom six winger on this team is fourth line at best on a good team. Chiarot is a bottom pairing guy on a good team. Petry and Holl aren't playing on a good team. Talbot is the backup on a good team.
  14. 3 points
    If Doug Armstrong is asking for one of Cossa or Augustine for Jordan Binnington, Than he can keep him.
  15. 3 points
    Say his full name three times and he shall appear
  16. 3 points
    ...and it has begun! Now trade Tarasenko and let's use the cap space to make us better!
  17. 2 points
    Elmer in the house https://x.com/DetroitRedWings/status/1940457853241979297/photo/1
  18. 2 points
    I'm glad we didn't chase Miller at the cost of those assets and term/cap. That's just nuts.
  19. 2 points
    Been saying it for SEASONS with an S now... but we are again stuck in the mushy middle. Worse, we are not even inching into wild card spots... now we will pick outside of the top 10 instead of top 3 or top 5 (again). Its all so tiresome. The problem is the team literally has no direction. Are we a rebuilder? Are we a potential contender? SY seems to not know (or worse, not care). I have absolutely zero confidence in his ability to do anything of significance this offseason. In fact, I would probably be happiest if he cuts his losses and sheds contracts instead of "loading up" for another failed season... The roster situation is not good. We can shed Kane, Smith, and Petry this summer... but still we will not be able to make a reasonable pass at a significant impact player (like Marner). Its eerily similar to the late Holland era. Directionless. Handcuffed by bloated contracts. Poor on ice product. After Xmas Despicable Me got fired... Todd comes in and seemingly saves the season... and then all the wheels on the bus fall off (again). If SY hasnt read the tea leaves, and realized the problem is his roster, and not his coach, by this point, we are so epicly fuqqed... for a while... This team needs radical, and wholesale change. I think SY is one of the very few sports managers who likely has a leash long enough to admit that to his boss and not lose his job. Does he have the humility to actually do it? We will see. When I say radical change, i mean major moves. 1. Larkin has to go He's captained a group that continually falls short and dissapoints year after year. He's approaching 30... This isnt a playing days yzerman who wins scoring titles and wins cups late in life... This is a very mediocre run of the mill 1C at best. Illitch and SY have chained us to this poor excuse for a "leader" with his most recent contract, and hes a "hometown" jersey seller... so i doubt the org will have the nuts to move on from him... but again (and we toldyaso) everyone in the room knows we are not delivering a cup while he remains as the teams leader and focal point. I would regain a lot of faith in this org if they nutted up and sat Larkin down this summer and asked him where he wants to be traded. We love you. We appreciate all youve done. But its time for you to go run shotgun to a mackinnon while we retool. 2. Buyouts - Gus, Vlad, and Holl If we have to watch these three skate out onto Lil C ice this fall I will continue to punish u ppl with Lions threads. Bc that is all I will care about. SY - admit your mistake and send them packing - them remaining rostered will scream of hubris (and poor management). 3. Trade - Rasmussen Its been a fun experiment. But he is not the product advertised, or even particularly good at being the alternative player we tried to develop him into. Not trading him now - while he still has youth and value - will become another regreted toldyaso so moment in 2-3 years time. 4. Re-sign - no one Sorry Kaner. You're old and poor definsively. Go relax in your glory years on the next suckers roster. Further, the last thing this team needs is more plugs. Shedding would help more than adding. --------------------------------------------- Imagine this scenario: >larkin agrees to a trade, and we send him to his boyhood fan team the tronna leafs. In exchange we acquire the rights to negotiate with Mitch Marner. Leafs get a solid player with term, and we get a verified superstar they can no longer afford. >Ras is sent away for a solid young RHD. >We buyout the losers Unfortunately I dont think SY has a big enough peepee for any of this and will likely just add more crap ass players to the roster... honestly i wouldnt be mad if we went back to marc staal-esque moves and took on cap for picks. But its not likely. -------------------------------------------- Lastly, I wanna make one more point about the deadhorse walman and fabbri trades, that I thought about the other day... Its generally accepted at this point that SY was trying to clear cap for Stamkos, but - as reported - pizzabro didnt get back to him in time to approve the signing and we lost the player. No big deal. Im not mad about losing out on stammer. He's been mostly pizz poor for Nash. However, HOW DA FUQ did you not get approval from ur boss for this move months prior? Did SY literally not start checking who was available in FA until day of??? And why TF are you giving away picks and solid young players to clear space BEFORE getting approval to sign the player you want to do this for??? Im sorry fellow fans - but I really think SY has been a different manager since returning to Detroit. The hunger and dilligence are gone. Hes in retirement mode in a position he knows he can half ass and not be fired from. And hes built a nepotistic office of all his old buddies that are doing the same thing. 7 years. The savior is 7 years in and has not saved us from, nor accomplished, anything. Therefore my radical move #5 is fire yzerman. We are rapidly approaching that conversation and reality.
  20. 2 points
    Just for grins looked at the month by month between us and the cats this year and last. 2024-25 2023-2024 Panthers Pts Wings Panthers Wings Oct 7-3-1 15 Oct 4-5-1 9 Oct 4-3-1 9 Oct 6-3-1 13 Nov 8 - 6 16 Nov 6-6-1. 13 Nov 10-4-1 21 Nov 6-4-2 14 Dec 8 -4 -1 17 Dec 5-7-2. 12 Dec 8-5 16 Dec 5-9-1 11 ================================================================================= 48 34 46 38 Jan 7-6-1 15 Jan 10-3-1 21 Jan 9-2-2 20 Jan 9-2-2 20 Feb 6-2 12 Feb 5-2-1 13 Feb 9-2 18 Feb 7-3 14 Mar 7-4 14 Mar 3-9 6 Mar 7-6-1 15 Mar 3-9-2 8 ================================================================================== 41 40 53 42 Because this seemed like a pattern I went back to 2022-23 Panthers Wings Oct 8-0-1 17 Oct 4-3-2 10 Nov 7-4-2 16 Nov 7-3-3 17 Dec 5-3-1 11 Dec 5-6-2. 12 ================================== 44 39 Jan 12-2-1 25 Jan 5-7-1 11 Feb 3-4 6 Feb 7-5 12 Mar 11-2-1 23 Mar 5-9-1 11 ====================================== 54 34 We never cracked 40 points or over in the first 3 months of the season vs the Cats whose worst record was 41. IMHO we have a sloppy start and then struggle to get back into contention and either injuries or mental fatigue becomes a factor and we die off. Been a pattern for the past 3 seasons under 2 coaches
  21. 2 points
    A few teams close to us conceded their seasons just before the TDL. Bruins, Islanders and Rangers. We're in a different place ATM. Ownership is not fully on board and SY is probably hearing about lost playoff revenue while trying to hold the owners hand regarding the build vs silly decisions that help the now and hurt the later. Even if we tank now, we can't get a better pick since other teams have already embraced it. Cheers?
  22. 2 points
    Yzerman 100% panicked, he was trying to shed cap to sign Stamkos. And Pizza boy didn't get to reach him in time to approve the deal. So we got screwed both ways.
  23. 2 points
    Ken would trade our 1st to get Walman back and have that pick be a multiple veznia trophy winner.
  24. 2 points
    Like the agents said in the agent poll... there is no plan in detroit and its a very unstable franchise. Ive lost a lot of faith in the captain.
  25. 2 points
    LeftWinger

    The Holy Goalie Hoagie Hex

    Mrazek saw the signs and wanted out before the hoagies took ahold!