Lazerbeam

Maybe Holland should call Nick and Shanny and see if they are ready for one last hurrah! Cleary....I mean clearly we want to oldest team in the NHL. Might as well trade the farm system for nabakov while we are at it. After all the kids are not going to be playing......LOL

So Sammy is worth 3 mil, but Brunner is not.

Well Brunner just wait 8 more years and the Wings are going to give you 5 mil plus and if you are finally 35 + you might even get a ntc you are just too young sorry...
3 years around 3m per would havebeen fair forboth sides

Wings offered Cleary 2.5 million for 3 seasons, GIVE THAT SAME DEAL TO BRUNNER.

Based on last seasons production he would be behind Brunner. Hes not that good, and definitely not worth anything over 4 million dollars let alone over 5 million.

This is the best FA signing period the Wings have had in years.
The Alfredsson signing is a great one, espeically with it being only 1 year with the potential to give the Wings 2 million in extra space next season should he not hit his performance bonuses.
He gives us a top 6 forward with a RH shot who can also help out our struggling PP.
I like Flip and I think he'll probably put up more pts next season than Weiss, but Weiss is a better center and fits the Wings needs better.
Brunner leaving hurts a little, but someone had to go to free up a roster spots for Tatar and Nyquist, either of whom I think can provide his offence, while hopefully upgrading on him defensively.
Now with a glut of forwards I fully expect a trade for a defenceman hopefully someone capable of playing on the 2nd pair at worst or 1st pairing at best.

Clarkson scored 30 goals once. Cheechoo once scored 56 goals, one season doesn't prove anything. Clarkson was extremely overpaid for a guy who is a 2nd-3rd line tweener.

Yes, and that's why Tatar should be on the 2nd line with Mule and Weiss. Have Andersson on the 4th line with Abdelkader and Miller and have our 3rd line as Brunner-Helm-Nyquist. Our 1st line being Alfie-Dats-Z THAT MAKES ME SO HAPPY!!!! Then trade the other guys that don't fit in the top 13 and keep Tuzzi as our 13th forward.
I thought Tatar wasn't eligible to go back this year without clearing waivers?? He should be on the Wings anyways. 16 goals in the playoffs and the MVP.....= paid his dues yo!

I am done here today, this comment takes the cake ...4 concussions in 13 months and 3 goals last year.

Clarkson is a third line player who has one season of 40+pts. Ryan didn't give Detroit any problems in the playoffs and is now on a weaker offensive team.

Yep...and as much as everyone thinks otherwise, Tatar could be better than Brunner this year. And he's younger, cheaper, with more potential. Offseason win for the Wings.

Losing Fil is a negative? He's more than had his chance to prove himself as a legit center in this league and he's coming off arguably his worst year ever. It was painful...he floated around the ice, afraid to shoot, afraid to go to the net..fresh meat down the middle. I like Brunner, it's hard to give up goal scoring but it was brutally obvious that this guy was a 1 dimensional player..he's terrible defensively and management knows they have guys with similar goal scoring ability in the system ( Gus and Tatar) Alfie is a low risk high reward for 1 season..nothing wrong with that move at all. We are super deep up front and have lots of pieces to trade.

Tatar may actually be the better player...and he's younger and more physical. He has earned the spot and playing time.

I'd much rather have Weiss at 4.9 than Fil at even 4 per. Great signing.

guys who are bitching i dont understand The wings are a better team today then they were in game 7 vs Chicago

injury prone guys? Weiss has averaged 74 games a year in his career and that number is only at 74 because he was injured last year. Make some sense before you post this garbage.

I think it's a great signing. Has anyone seen Alfredsson not bring it? He's a competitor. Vinny doesn't if he doesn't want to. Alfredsson f***in brings it, every game. That's not a stat. He wants to win.

Funny pic stolen from HF boards:

Horrible move by Holland. You'll pay Sammy 3 million a year, but you won't pay Vincent 4.5? The guy would of been our 3rd best forward. You wouldn't pay 4.5 million for a top 3 forward? Come on. The Wings can't score. They haven't been scoring for YEARS. How do you fix such a problem? PAY A FEW EXTRA BUCKS AND SIGN SOME DECENT TOP 6 FORWARDS. Would you rather have Vincent at 4.5 a season, or Cleary at 3. Seriously.
I will use my magical crystal ball and tell you what Holland will do in the next week:
Cleary for 3 million a season for 3-4 years.
Sign Brunner for 2-3 million for 3-4 years.
Buy-out Carlo.
"We like our team." - Holland
DONE. We will have an IDENTICAL team to last year, except Flipulla will be gone. The Wings need 1-2 top 6 forwards. The Wings have too many players signed, and Kenny seems not to care. Get rid of a few, and get BETTER ONES. WE HAVE THE SPACE. GETTER DONE.
I will bet ANYONE on here $20 that Philly will win the cup before the Wings do. Making moves, even if a few are bad, is better than doing nothing. And Kenny has basically made ZERO moves for 5 years.

Holland probably tried to low ball him. Holland had to use a buy out on Carlo and didn't get nothing for Flip. I am starting to really question the skipper because if the fish isn't in the barrel then he sure as s*** can't shoot them elsewhere.

oh god man , cant believe couldnt find a team to take him for like a 7th round pick hes just got one year left on his deal, waste of a buyout ... how is it everyone knew the signings of coliacovo and samuelsson were a mistake except for holland

After drafting Bertuzzi's nephew it was a given we'd be stuck with him for another year. Completely agree on the Colo front the guy played solid and was the only FA from last year that added value during in the playoffs.

Oh come on, who didn't see this coming.
If the guy was 40, then maybe Holland would have considered him.
First off, in regards to term length, it seems much less risky now with each team allocated compliance buyouts per year. Yeah its not the most respectful thing to the players but it would allow Holland to sleep while still signing him at an appropriate price. 4.5M is a fair price for Lecavalier.
And again, what new player has Holland signed in the last 4 or 5 years that has worked out and proved to be a good signing?
Tootoo?
Samuelsson?
White?
Modano?
Holland signs these guys, just for them to get scratched every game by Babcock.
Its quite clear our commander and chief has no direction on what he's doing.

It seems holland is content keeping us a playoff team but not a contender.

The thing is this isn't an opinion is a proven fact. For 4.5m what's better Vinny or cola and Sammy? I mean seriously this isn't even an arguement.