akustyk 84 Report post Posted March 10, 2007 (edited) I think he means the act by Simon was worse than what Bertuzzi did. If so, I agree 100%. Guys get sucker punched in the face and head all the time. Two-handing somebody in the face like your swinging a baseball bat is a heinous act. Worse than a sucker punch. Simon is lucky he didn't kill Hollweg. I'm not sold on the last sentence but I too think this was worse than Bertuzzi in terms of the act itself. the resulting damage is in this case "unfortunately" too small to convince people-with-no-balls to call right punishment. they'll suspend him for the rest of this season and call it done. and with silent allowance for such crap from the league this will continue. until some player is "finally" killed and NHL understands, this is no f* jokes I don't think he could have killed him. Hockey sticks definitely aren't baseball bats, they weren't even as deadly when they were wood. It's a different intensity of impact. if you hit hard with flat side of the stick to the throat you can cut guy`s breath for good. and it's definitely very dangerous. but the in-arena medical staff would surely solve this in any case. accidents like this can happen with pucks flying high so you have to be prepared for that Edited March 10, 2007 by akustyk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted March 10, 2007 if you hit hard with flat side of the stick to the throat you can cut guy`s breath for good. and it's definitely very dangerous. but the in-arena medical staff would surely solve this in any case. accidents like this can happen with pucks flying high so you have to be prepared for that Definitely. I didn't account for a throat shot, but you're right. It's been a while since I've heard of any stickwielding maniacs out there... honestly, the last one was a high school incident, I think. It's bizarre when someone flips out like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 yeah... Bertuzzi is a Wings now so... you know... all please jump Todd loveboat and call any crap he's done in the past an accident, a tough play etc. now Simon is a ****** who blatantly, cold-bloodedly went after Hollweg trying to kill him... and... you know... he's not a Wings so it's obvious he has to be smoked. should however Simon ever come to Detroit this would be an accident, tough play, etc. you know what I mean... yay... double standards it's called. motorcitykid is 100% right. the league should have balls to punish this kind of behavior, not just throw laughable suspensions of a couple of games. this is brainless what Campbell and Co. are doing and one day it'll cost some player's life. I'd rather see players gone because they're rightfully ejected by the league, than because they're dead of some stick, sucker-punch, jump on the neck, hit from behind, etc. Yeh it's pathetic to see the same dudes who were all over Bertuzzi, now jump up to defend his ass, cause he's wearing our beloved red & white. As a long-time WIngs fan, and knowing what Todd Bertuzzi is about, what he represents, and the type of guy he is, seeing him in a Wings jersey makes me puke. Bertuzzi did not intend to break the guys neck, but he did intend to punch him full-force in the back of the head, which is no better or worse than what Simon did. I think they are similar because both were attempts to injure the victim, regardless of what the end damage was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Yeh it's pathetic to see the same dudes who were all over Bertuzzi, now jump up to defend his ass, cause he's wearing our beloved red & white. As a long-time WIngs fan, and knowing what Todd Bertuzzi is about, what he represents, and the type of guy he is, seeing him in a Wings jersey makes me puke. Wow. Some things never change, like you complaining. Care to bring in some Ken Holland shots in here too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Yeh it's pathetic to see the same dudes who were all over Bertuzzi, now jump up to defend his ass, cause he's wearing our beloved red & white. As a long-time WIngs fan, and knowing what Todd Bertuzzi is about, what he represents, and the type of guy he is, seeing him in a Wings jersey makes me puke. So? Watch the Wings in spite of him then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 I do not remember much about Thursday's incident. When I saw the tape on Friday morning, it explained a lot to me when I saw the look on my face after being hit into the boards. I was completely out of it. When I met with the media about 30 minutes later, I still was not feeling well. I met with our medical staff briefly Thursday night and underwent a series of tests on Friday afternoon. They have told me that I suffered a concussion when I hit the boards. Because I was not cleared by our doctors to travel, I would like to thank Colin Campbell for traveling to New York for today's hearing. http://newyorkislanders.com/pressbox/archive.asp?id=1486 Is Simon pleading temporary insanity as a result of a concussion? Im not a doctor, but this sound like a load of bull shat to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 So? Watch the Wings in spite of him then. Or maybe root for a different team? Funny that the "motorcitykid" has a Vancouver goaltender in his avatar and posts from an IP address that resolves to Toronto. Just sayin' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) Or maybe root for a different team? Funny that the "motorcitykid" has a Vancouver goaltender in his avatar and posts from an IP address that resolves to Toronto. Just sayin' Oho! So the truth is revealed! Considering how much of a beef he has with everything Ken Holland does, it wouldn't suprise me if he was an underground Leafs fan. Or Canucks fan. Or fan of any other team. He just won't let this Bertuzzi thing go. Bertuzzi plays for the Wings now, so why does he keep at it? Edited March 11, 2007 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Not that Simon was anywhere near justified for that assault, you just know hollweg will think twice about hitting someone from behind again. To me, hitting from behind the worst play in hockey--I've actually seen someone paralyzed from it during a game and I'll never forget it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naslund19 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Holy s***! That is nuts!! Totally uncalled for on Simon's part. The game was TIED for crying out loud. Simon laid on on the ice for a second like it was a dirty hit. That hit was totally clean. There's NO excuse why he did that. Definitely should be out for at least the rest of the season. Wow...that was just sickening seeing that in slow-motion. Totall classless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 http://newyorkislanders.com/pressbox/archive.asp?id=1486 Is Simon pleading temporary insanity as a result of a concussion? Im not a doctor, but this sound like a load of bull shat to me. We'll never know for sure, obviously. But that's not unheard of. Memory loss is a well-known side effect of concussions. I was watching a football game that Troy Aikman was broadcasting, and they showed a clip of him receiving his last concussion from LaVar Arrington, the one that ended his career. He said "that's literally the first time I've seen that play, because I don't remember it." They showed him sitting on the bench all groggy and talking to various people and he remembered none of that either. Said he remembered taking the snap and that's about it - didn't remember anything that happened for the next several hours. So yeah, if Simon got a concussion, not remembering the incident shouldn't come as any surprise. He's not pleading temporary insanity, obviously.......though concussions are screwy, and is really so hard to imagine that having his brain scrambled by the hit was a contributing factor to what he did? I think that's reasonable. I don't think it's a reason to mitigate his punishment, but it's not inconceivable that's what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 What you saw Thursday is not the person, player and competitor that I am. I know my teammates and opponents over my 14 years in the NHL understand that. I do not remember much about Thursday's incident. When I saw the tape on Friday morning, it explained a lot to me when I saw the look on my face after being hit into the boards. I was completely out of it. When I met with the media about 30 minutes later, I still was not feeling well. I met with our medical staff briefly Thursday night and underwent a series of tests on Friday afternoon. They have told me that I suffered a concussion when I hit the boards. Because I was not cleared by our doctors to travel, I would like to thank Colin Campbell for traveling to New York for today's hearing. So if he might go into a rage after being checked into the boards and not have any recollection of it, it seems to me Simon is unfit to play hockey then. If he gets hit again he might once again endanger others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) Aside from the fact i've posted here for over 3 years, let me see: because my avatar's a picture of Luongo [who's one of my faves and someone I wished Holland might've taken a chance on this past summer], because of my dislike for Bertuzzi and all he represents and because I have doubts what he'll contribute here, my loyalty to the Red WIngs is questioned? Uhh yeh, OK. Edited March 11, 2007 by motorcitykid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukRules 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Simon received his suspension. Minimum of 25 games. He's done for the rest of the season and these playoffs. If the Isles don't make the playoffs it carries over to next season. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=199699&hubname= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Pancake 6 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Simon received his suspension. Minimum of 25 games. He's done for the rest of the season and these playoffs. If the Isles don't make the playoffs it carries over to next season. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=199699&hubname= Even if they make the playoffs it will carry over til next season if the Islanders play less than 10 playoff games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 So if he might go into a rage after being checked into the boards and not have any recollection of it, it seems to me Simon is unfit to play hockey then. If he gets hit again he might once again endanger others. Eric Lindros can't remember half his own career and they still let him play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Eric Lindros can't remember half his own career and they still let him play you bad boy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Aside from the fact i've posted here for over 3 years, let me see: because my avatar's a picture of Luongo [who's one of my faves and someone I wished Holland might've taken a chance on this past summer], because of my dislike for Bertuzzi and all he represents and because I have doubts what he'll contribute here, my loyalty to the Red WIngs is questioned? Uhh yeh, OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenrikRules40 14 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 Eric Lindros can't remember half his own career and they still let him play If he ever reads this he's gonna be mad for a few games...but then forget... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 25 games is about right. I wonder if Simon gets picked up in the summer. He'll be a free agent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2007 Here is a little update, NHL News-Yahoo.com it says that Hollweg will not press charges against Simon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites