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what's about those Canadiens and cutting player's careers? first they basically dragged down Czerkawski (another big scorer before coming to Montreal) now it's Samsonov. both are Euros so I can see something in it, but frankly... that's two really good players in a team that so uneven and such horribly sucking when it comes to chasing playoff spot, and which could definitely use scoring help of guys very able to shot the puck on target...

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you have to wonder how much of it is the atmosphere in that city. The Canadiens are held on an unbelieveable pedastal there. Every time a player farts or blows his nose it's front page news. And even when you're in the dressing room, away from the fans and media, you're surrounded by reminders of their history. Just sitting there and looking around, seeing all of the hall of famers, and cups and everything else they have in there, it has to put a lot of pressure on a guy. It's easy to see how a player can fall apart in that environment.

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lmao the guy had 9 goals all year for 3.5 million and hes complaining?

He's not complaining about the salary, merely about the fact that things haven't gone his way since joining the Habs.

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That's hardly the Habs' fault.

That's true, I probably picked my words a bit incorrectly. He isn't actually so much complaining about anything or to anyone, just stating his disappointment in his season.

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you have to wonder how much of it is the atmosphere in that city. The Canadiens are held on an unbelieveable pedastal there. Every time a player farts or blows his nose it's front page news. And even when you're in the dressing room, away from the fans and media, you're surrounded by reminders of their history. Just sitting there and looking around, seeing all of the hall of famers, and cups and everything else they have in there, it has to put a lot of pressure on a guy. It's easy to see how a player can fall apart in that environment.

OMFGJCOMG :blink::unsure::huh:

that was so spot on.

why didnt you tell us you lived in montreal? :P

believe me, i see waht you are talking about every day....and it sickens me. People just WONT LET GO. Montreal is not the center of attention anymore, its just another team.

Plus, you are talking about Czekawski and Samsonov, but you could also say the exact same thing about at least a few dozen players. Lets see : Juneau, Perreault, Leeman, Leclair, Recchi, Damphousse, are all players that either thrived when they left, or became liabilities after joining the Habs.

You cant spell Habs without BS :P

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you have to wonder how much of it is the atmosphere in that city. The Canadiens are held on an unbelieveable pedastal there. Every time a player farts or blows his nose it's front page news. And even when you're in the dressing room, away from the fans and media, you're surrounded by reminders of their history. Just sitting there and looking around, seeing all of the hall of famers, and cups and everything else they have in there, it has to put a lot of pressure on a guy. It's easy to see how a player can fall apart in that environment.

You are 100% right. Look what happened with Theodore and now with Kovalev.

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Plus, you are talking about Czekawski and Samsonov, but you could also say the exact same thing about at least a few dozen players. Lets see : Juneau, Perreault, Leeman, Leclair, Recchi, Damphousse, are all players that either thrived when they left, or became liabilities after joining the Habs.

Care to back up your theory here?

Juneau - already on a downward spiral (end of career, etc.) when he went to Montreal

Perreault - I'd say his best years were in Montreal, or close to it

Leclair - bad example, young player, just coming into the league...he actually did well and when he left, he got the benefit of playing with a young/healthy Lindros, which didn't hurt.

Recchi - did just fine in Montreal from what I can tell

Damphousse - best years were in Montreal

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lmao the guy had 9 goals all year for 3.5 million and hes complaining?

I think this statement is a miss. people from US see much more into money than people from Europe actually

and tend to use it as a crucial argument in every discussion.

sure it's 3.5 M$ but he nevertheless has it. and if you had choice to play on high level - the game you love and

for the fans who enjoy it, or just sit on the bench, fart and grow fat... guess what's the choice.

Samsonov never really get it done since he left the Bruins and signing him for 3.5M$ was a huge risk, which

eventually didn't pan out. but the thing here is not just to blame Samsonov for not producing, but use the brains

to get the clue why wasn't he producing. is it because he was lazy? that can be true, but I don't think

it's the sole reason. my bet is Canadiens had no physical presence to couple with Sergei and make him efficient.

then both parties had to had screw something up in relations and it went the way we see now.

is it Samsonov's sole fault Habs GM gave him 3.5 M$ and the team was unable to use him properly? I simply

refuse to buy such simplified answer. both parties must be guilty and with Canadiens having a history of

players going "from hero to zero" makes me think, they have a big contribution to this mess

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I think had Samsonov went to another team (even here for that matter), he would be having a pretty decent season.

I like the Czerkawski example someone threw out there. This guy was a dynamic goal scorer with the NY Islanders, topping the 30 goal mark quite a few times in his career. He is then traded to Montreal (he was traded, for Aaron Asham, never went there on his own) and his career goes into a downspiral. He is eventually waived, and finishes the rest of the year in the minors. He did have one last hurrah in the NHL though, as the next season he did put up 25 goals and quite a few points with the NY Islanders as he returned there. But last season he was pretty bad, and as far as I know he isn't playing in the NHL anymore. Czerkawski used to be quite a goal scorer until he went to Montreal. He is a good example of a player that went into a slump once they started playing for the Habs.

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I think this statement is a miss. people from US see much more into money than people from Europe actually

and tend to use it as a crucial argument in every discussion.

sure it's 3.5 M$ but he nevertheless has it. and if you had choice to play on high level - the game you love and

for the fans who enjoy it, or just sit on the bench, fart and grow fat... guess what's the choice.

Probably for most, the only reason we look into money is because of the cap for the nhl. If one of your highest paid player is tying up a majority of your cap and he isn't playing well, more times than not, your team is going to struggle. I can't speak for all of Europe, but I know for their football there is no cap. Real Madrid, Manchester United, Chelsea, Inter Milan, Ac Milan etc... All these teams can buy any player they want for whatever price, but if those players don't play well, the team can just get another top player. The NHL unfortunately isn't like that anymore... IDK if that made sense to anyone, kinda just rambled

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god what a baby, he should be happy he has a job.

He`s not a baby, hes just pissed off that the Habs signed him and are scratching him. He came to the Habs to play hockey, not to be a bench warmer.

I know I might get some bashing for this but it seems to me that the Habs don`t really like the Euros. Kovalev said (**this is just a rumour, take it for what its worth**) that the French players have there own little clique and they all hang out together and watch each others back. To me it seems like something some French Habs players would do. And if that is the case, the Habs really need to learn to be more of a team, maybe they would win more? Just a thought ;)

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Thank god he didn't sign with the Wings :P

Ten-four. You beat me to it.

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He`s not a baby, hes just pissed off that the Habs signed him and are scratching him. He came to the Habs to play hockey, not to be a bench warmer.

I know I might get some bashing for this but it seems to me that the Habs don`t really like the Euros. Kovalev said (**this is just a rumour, take it for what its worth**) that the French players have there own little clique and they all hang out together and watch each others back. To me it seems like something some French Habs players would do. And if that is the case, the Habs really need to learn to be more of a team, maybe they would win more? Just a thought ;)

Do you have a source for the actual interview Kovalev gave to a Russian radiostation, or are you going by "La Presse" reports of it, that Kovalev categorically denied?

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Do you have a source for the actual interview Kovalev gave to a Russian radiostation, or are you going by "La Presse" reports of it, that Kovalev categorically denied?

THAT IS WHY IT SAYS ITS RUMOUR with a ** around the sentancs and it says take it for what its worth, duh!

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you have to wonder how much of it is the atmosphere in that city. The Canadiens are held on an unbelieveable pedastal there. Every time a player farts or blows his nose it's front page news. And even when you're in the dressing room, away from the fans and media, you're surrounded by reminders of their history. Just sitting there and looking around, seeing all of the hall of famers, and cups and everything else they have in there, it has to put a lot of pressure on a guy. It's easy to see how a player can fall apart in that environment.

My friend, the Oilers are in the exact same boat, and Samsonov played quite well with them.

That's hardly the Habs' fault.

They've consistently given him fourth-line minutes.

You are 100% right. Look what happened with Theodore and now with Kovalev.

Kovalev is old and has a shoddy work ethic, and Theodore won a Vezina in Montreal.

Do you have a source for the actual interview Kovalev gave to a Russian radiostation, or are you going by "La Presse" reports of it, that Kovalev categorically denied?

Well, there are two holes in that report:

1) It was likely falsified.

2) Even if Kovalev did say it, he's quite the primadonna; I wouldn't put it past him to fib.

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