Guest Crymson Report post Posted March 20, 2007 After the way he was treated here, I don't think CuJo is even an option. I doubt he'd say no. He still wants the Cup, and he won't get it with Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 cujo comming back here would be one of the stranges things to ever happen in sports,...but it's sports that said,..i'd like giggy please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 You know that realistically, barring an injury to the actual starter, this won't be the case.. right? We'll have to see about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 Hasek is too old....he needs a walker out there! He goes down to his knees or his back and its a sure bet he isnt getting up until his hearing aid picks up a whistle or the play is down in the other zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 Giguere is the only viable option on that list for a starter ahead of Ozzie. Others are either not as good as Ozzie, or not realistically available. That said, being the best goalie on the market makes him a hot commodity and makes him expensive, on top of his already bloated salary. As far as the others on that list, not many would come to Detroit for under 1m, which is what a backup would be making. So barring a trade, and assuming Hasek retires, Osgood looks to be the starter next season. McLennan is probably the best combination of ability and price of the guys who I would consider as backup, in that he'd make barely over the minimum and provide quality backup services. The question is, will Calgary let him go? Not having a quality backup in 05-06 hurt them a ton whenever Kipper didn't play. If not McLennan, Garon might be the next best option. Assuming both guys are not available, Stefan Liv or Jimmy Howard would be the guy to go to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaticWithABeat 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 Considering they both play for cheap, I wouldn't complain too much if both Oz and Hasek came back next season...Preferably I'd like one of them gone so Howard can get his feet wet as a backup. I guess ideally I'd want to see an Osgood-Howard tandem for a year or maybe two until Howard's ready to take over as #1. Giguere is better than Osgood, but Osgood is much more cost-effective...I'd rather see us stick with him for another year than spend valuable cap space on a high-priced UFA goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 Osgood as starter, Darren Pang to back him up. Let's go Old Skool ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) I don't understand why Osgood wouldn't be considered at starter in the Fall, if Dom doesn't come back. The problem is that the Wings' management doesn't seem to be like-minded about it. If Dom doesn't return, I won't be surprised to see Detroit go for another stop-gap veteran, before they offer the job to Ozzie. They could surprise us, though, especially if no other cost-effective (less than $800K ballpark) UFA goalies are in the mix as starter material. Personally, I expect to see Hasek back for one more campaign, barring injury. He may be old, but he's still getting the job done. Edited March 20, 2007 by puckloo39 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 Osgood still has flashes of brillance, but, IMHO, he no longer has the ability to steal a game...which is something every team needs. That being said, looking at the list, the only viable free agent option is Giguere. If the Wings and their fans must suffer through a complete season with Ozzie as #1, either Liv or Howard need to at least be backup if not split the season with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 Even the guys on XM204 get their sh** mixed up sometimes. Today, on my lunch hour, they were talking about goaltending duos in the NHL. They mentioned Hasek and Osgood. They went on to say that, yes, Osgood won a Cup with Detroit, but he was also responsible for letting in the center ice goal that turned around the Detroit-Vancouver series a few years ago. I can't remember which of the two hosts it was, but he said, "who was it, Vancouver? Osgood let in that center ice goal. It turned the series around." Anyone else hear this? I tried to think of what else they could be talking about, but I honestly think they confused Dan Cloutier with Osgood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 Even the guys on XM204 get their sh** mixed up sometimes. Today, on my lunch hour, they were talking about goaltending duos in the NHL. They mentioned Hasek and Osgood. They went on to say that, yes, Osgood won a Cup with Detroit, but he was also responsible for letting in the center ice goal that turned around the Detroit-Vancouver series a few years ago. I can't remember which of the two hosts it was, but he said, "who was it, Vancouver? Osgood let in that center ice goal. It turned the series around." Anyone else hear this? I tried to think of what else they could be talking about, but I honestly think they confused Dan Cloutier with Osgood. AHAHA. I sure hope someone corrected them. That would be Cloutier letting in the center ice goal in that series from a Lidstrom slapshot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) EDIT: Just plain dumb. Edited March 20, 2007 by Ozzie30 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted March 20, 2007 what about aebischer? he was damn good when he got a little help. montreal is turning into a goaltenders worst nightmare. i wonder if he'd do well here. I was always very fond of David Aebischer. But lately .... ???? Come on, the guy has difficulty stopping a beach ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Hasek is too old....he needs a walker out there! He goes down to his knees or his back and its a sure bet he isnt getting up until his hearing aid picks up a whistle or the play is down in the other zone. Only thing Hasek needs to do is stay in/around his crease more. Other than that, your post is all gibberish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 The Swedish PA just got an addition to their transferlist - Stefan Liv. Probably doesn't mean very much. As far as I know it's just a way to see what offers he'd get in Europe and the amount of money he could earn. I think he's quite committed to staying and getting a chance to play in the NHL but you never know, if the guy is pushed down from the GR again... Nah even then I doubt it, he's got an ok shot at making it - why waste it? Still it's interesting, but yeah, don't read too much into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 The Swedish PA just got an addition to their transferlist - Stefan Liv. Probably doesn't mean very much. As far as I know it's just a way to see what offers he'd get in Europe and the amount of money he could earn. I think he's quite committed to staying and getting a chance to play in the NHL but you never know, if the guy is pushed down from the GR again... Nah even then I doubt it, he's got an ok shot at making it - why waste it? Still it's interesting, but yeah, don't read too much into it. It's probably just a matter of Liv's agent covering all bases after seeing the Wings drop two goaltending prospects in less than a year. Liv is, in all likelihood, not the goalie of the future in Detroit. Liv's agent probably wants to be prepared for the worst-case scenario situation where Detroit does not offer Liv a new contract after this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted March 21, 2007 (edited) Even the guys on XM204 get their sh** mixed up sometimes. Today, on my lunch hour, they were talking about goaltending duos in the NHL. They mentioned Hasek and Osgood. They went on to say that, yes, Osgood won a Cup with Detroit, but he was also responsible for letting in the center ice goal that turned around the Detroit-Vancouver series a few years ago. I can't remember which of the two hosts it was, but he said, "who was it, Vancouver? Osgood let in that center ice goal. It turned the series around." Anyone else hear this? I tried to think of what else they could be talking about, but I honestly think they confused Dan Cloutier with Osgood. To be fair to the announcers, Ozzie has hardly had an exemplary record with such goals in the playoffs. I daresay his save percentage on bonafide scoring chances is higher than his save percentage on shots from outside the blue line. actually yeah, it does. osgood was signed. he's a vet. he's won a cup. So has Belfour. Do we want him? Hell no. anyway..i don't want giggy. too immobile. product of a defense, and i'll say it until he sucks without a defense again. i'd take biron, maaaybe. i think us wanting him is just us never wanting to spend money. You must be speaking about a Giguere other than he who, behind a very mediocre team, utterly stoned a hall-of-fame Red Wings squad. Say what you will about equipment; the guy has loads of talent. what about aebischer? he was damn good when he got a little help. montreal is turning into a goaltenders worst nightmare. i wonder if he'd do well here. I find myself laughing at you verbally ravaging Giguere and then asking if Aebischer is an option. Hahaha. one thing we have to remember, is in our system, we need a goalie who doesn't get stiff or get bored or need a constant stream of shots to stay hot. we need a guy who can make clutch saves after standing around for a few minues at a time, because that's how we play. we OWN the puck possesion game. guys like cujo couldn't handle it, and alot of players couldn't. i think it's not dom's cup of tea either, but he's good enough to play through it here anyway. but not everyone is dom hasek. that should factor into decisions I do believe this factors into everyone's decision on signing goaltenders. Edited March 21, 2007 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 To be fair to the announcers, Ozzie has hardly had an exemplary record with such goals in the playoffs. I daresay his save percentage on bonafide scoring chances is higher than his save percentage on shots from outside the blue line. Osgood has let in what, three long goals in the playoffs in his career, and all in one run? He also happend to win the Cup that season. Roy, Brodeur, Belfour, Hasek have all given up embarrassing long goals in the playoffs. The 'Ozzie gives up long goals zomg lolz!' thing was played out years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Osgood has let in what, three long goals in the playoffs in his career, and all in one run? He also happend to win the Cup that season. Roy, Brodeur, Belfour, Hasek have all given up embarrassing long goals in the playoffs. The 'Ozzie gives up long goals zomg lolz!' thing was played out years ago. Somehow it's funny that people always bring up the Langenbrunner, Roenick or MacInnis goals. Just points out that that is all they have. There's nothing else you can hold against Chris Osgood and his career. I'm proud he's a Wing. A true Red Wing ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 To be fair to the announcers, Ozzie has hardly had an exemplary record with such goals in the playoffs. I daresay his save percentage on bonafide scoring chances is higher than his save percentage on shots from outside the blue line. Seems like all that stuff you say about not being overly negative and exaggerating a player's faults pretty much goes out the window for you when it comes to Ozzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Somehow it's funny that people always bring up the Langenbrunner, Roenick or MacInnis goals. Just points out that that is all they have. There's nothing else you can hold against Chris Osgood and his career. I'm proud he's a Wing. A true Red Wing ! And the only goaltender since Roger Crozier in 1965 to be the league's best netminder in a given season while wearing the Wings jersey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 And the only goaltender since Roger Crozier in 1965 to be the league's best netminder in a given season while wearing the Wings jersey. What do you mean by that, EUZ ? (Sounds good though...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poxer 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 I would love to see Liv and Howard step up to the plate and pull a Ryan Miller, but its a long shot. Cujo coming here would not be out of reason because look at Hasek? Didn't he receive a lot of bad press the last time he was here, with cujo? He came back. I'm content with Osgood being a goalie but I don't think he would be the best choice. He shows some great skill in some games but others I don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 What do you mean by that, EUZ ? (Sounds good though...) Despite eva's well-documented love of Jim Carey, he feels someone else lays claim to his one Vezina win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raidedredwing2 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Well Hasek sure did blow that game last night.... i love i when he lays on his back and trys to play goalie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
