OsGOD 3 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 If D-mac can be remembered for that one goal sealing the Cup for us.... Can Lil' Ja be remembered for that one play that sealed our fate last playoff run? its only fair, bother are VERY unforgetable! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwing711 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Lilja is not as bad as many on here like to make him out to be. I haven't noticed him making any bad turn-overs lately at all. How long does he have to go playing some decent hockey before some people on here will admit that maybe he is improving his play and being more careful with the puck? I have no problem with him not being someone's favorite player, but I don't understand why some people can't get past their dislike of him and at least acknowledge that he is playing pretty decent right now. Is it really that hard to be objective about what is going on in a game? Yeah, I like Lilja, but I can see that he can make bad plays and be sloppy with the puck and has cost the team goals or scoring chances at times. I also see that he has not been doing that lately. Is it really that hard to be objective about a player's performance? I guess it depends on your idea of objective. Or better yet, your idea of decent hockey. I don't think taking stupid penalties every third minute to allow the other team an almost constant man advantage is decent hockey. To be objective, yes he on occassion makes a decent play, but those occasions do not outweigh the damage he is capable of doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 I guess it depends on your idea of objective. Or better yet, your idea of decent hockey. I don't think taking stupid penalties every third minute to allow the other team an almost constant man advantage is decent hockey. To be objective, yes he on occassion makes a decent play, but those occasions do not outweigh the damage he is capable of doing. He takes a penalty every third minute????????!!! You must have meant shift, but then again, Every third shift????!!!! Almost constantly on the PK???!!!! Can I see some stats to back these claims of objectivity up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 (edited) He takes a penalty every third minute????????!!! You must have meant shift, but then again, Every third shift????!!!! Almost constantly on the PK???!!!! Can I see some stats to back these claims of objectivity up? Agree, this Lilja bashing is just getting out of hand now with no merit. His game is fine. Edited February 8, 2008 by esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan13 44 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 If Lilja scored more you guys would like him. It seemed a lot of people on this board liked Schneider a lot and he was a turnover machine and wasnt very good on defence. There was a lot of notice of him though because he did have a great shot from the point. The truth of the matter is that Lilja is good. If he wasnt....he wouldnt be playing on this team every game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Lilja takes alot of unwarrented bashing on here for sure. He's been playing fine since the middle of last season, and was one of the best and most effective Dmen in the playoffs last year. sure his turn over lost a game i suppose, even though it went to o.t. and there was another game to be played after that, and he did score the Wings only goal. Besides the fact who was his partner that had the genius idea to not only leave him as the last man back, but continue on with the forwards and let him start the breakout whilst letting a forechecker rush in on him? No he's not a top paring Dman, never heard him claim that, and he sure don't get paid like it. I think it shows the level of how spoiled Wings fans are when you actually look at what they complain about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FedorovGurl 2 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 I like Lilja for completely irrational reasons. He reminds me of a pirate. Ha! I always thought he looks like he belongs bare-chested on the cover of romance novels instead of in a red and white sweater on the ice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turkey 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Ha! I always thought he looks like he belongs bare-chested on the cover of romance novels.... This statement just hurt me. It hurt me real bad. Can't stop.....twitching. If anyone needs me, I'll be hiding under my desk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 , and was one of the best and most effective Dmen in the playoffs last year. You're talking about hockey playoffs right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lfd250 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 (edited) Same playoffs where he gave the puck up next to the net and the other team scored? THOSE PLAYOFFS? The same playoffs where he was a -4 and 10 min in Pen? Do you think he MIGHT be playing better do to the fact he's playing with Lids off and on? Sorry but if he needs help packing let me know. by the way Lebda was a +4 Edited February 8, 2008 by lfd250 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chase 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 This Lilja bashing is getting way out of hand. IMO, he turns the puck over just as much as Rafalski (talking about just this season thus far). And he leads the team in blocked shots and hits. Lilja isn't a point producing defenseman like Ralf or Lids. He is a STAY AT HOME defenseman. And he has been doing his job well lately. Is he replaceable? Yes. But has he deserved all of the bashing he has been getting around here lately? No way. But of course, there has to be a LGW whipping boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 I could be wrong, but isn't hockey a team sport? I'm not a big fan of Lilja's, but our demise wasn't his fault...Lack of scoring on the pp, a few injuries, bad bounces (can throw in the goal off the shaft of Lidstroms stick, & inability of Franzen to clear the puck), & of course there's always the questionable calls not made/made by the refs BTW Lilja scored the only goal for us in that game as well...He's no Norris canidate, but there have been worse than Lilja playing in the NHL. and we got 'em both on our team... sammy and Lil' Ja Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 Lebda: ("Waste of Space", KPWings this is my favorite I love this one thanks for the laugh--> "He's basically a smaller, less versatile version of Dandenault") Your welcome pal. Glad I could bring such pleasure to your day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 He's no Norris canidate, but there have been worse than Lilja playing in the NHL. Now there's a ringing endorsement. Maybe that should be Holland's new criterion when drafting or trading? "Is he the worst player in the NHL?.......No....OK then. We sign him." There's nothing wrong with hating a player because he sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiff_luvs_homer 5 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 You can obviously see how this kid felt about him in Toronto today... I can't help but laugh, LOL... did anyone else notice this during the game??! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 It's sad to see that Canadians are teaching their children to be jealous of the Wings at such a young age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) That kid looks like he's younger than 10 years old! If I wasn't able to get away with that kind of stuff at his age, then why should he? Not fair... Edited February 10, 2008 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 If you say so. Really? That's it? Did you not get the syllabus when you created a UID and PWD for this website? Your post up there would be that of a speed-bump. Well.......I guess it could also be described as Lilja-esque. Well done. You're being sent down. aloha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Better pic of the kid above. This kid is nothing short of pure awesome and win... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) those pictures are just killin me hahah. but seriously tho, Lillypads had his bone head moments and up the middle turnovers from time to time, but overall id keep him as a 5th or 6th defensemen. leads the team in hits, blocked shots. those of the type of things that go unnoticed but make a huge difference in a game, but then again so do his big turnovers. its a love - hate thing with me for Lillypads. ps. anyone else notice how clear his English is? crazy. Edited February 10, 2008 by kylee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiff_luvs_homer 5 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 I think he looks evil... lol, I'm glad that he's not my kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites