A way to fix bad penelty calls...?

[wings_fanatic 677]

I don't know if it bothers any of you guys, but I am getting tired of the dumb penalty calls against players (every team) that should not be one. I mean the times the refs make a call when it didn't even happen... they just thought it happened from where their position was... So what if certain penalties went into review... because I am tired of them.

Last night, Homer was tripped in front of the net, but the ref gave him a penalty cuz he thought Homer was diving.... thats retarded... and I think they should be reviewable...

[puckbags 863]

That would be nice but then we would be looking at 4 hour hockey games......no thanks!!

Edited February 9, 2008 by puckbags

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

I don't know if it bothers any of you guys, but I am getting tired of the dumb penalty calls against players (every team) that should not be one. I mean the times the refs make a call when it didn't even happen... they just thought it happened from where their position was... So what if certain penalties went into review... because I am tired of them.

Last night, Homer was tripped in front of the net, but the ref gave him a penalty cuz he thought Homer was diving.... thats retarded... and I think they should be reviewable...

I've thought about this and there is nothing that can be done. Whether a video review or a flag thrown by the coach, the refs would throw a fit.

The refs would call more penalties in close situations and would rely on coaches to call for a review.

[dallas27 7]

Have Mickey ref the game.

[irishtemper14+25 11]

take away the 4th ******* ref and the instigator rule...and that *** ass trapezoid, it doesnt do anything but make the ice look stupid

i think we all have our grievances with the rules and i just hope that bettman is out of a job sooner than later and a purist like mickey or even don cherry would take his spot

[b.shanafan14 733]

Have Mickey ref the game.

yeah, not even from a "homer" stand point, Mick gets pissed at s***ty calls for or against the Wings. There really is no way to fix it tho, refs see ghosts and call phantom penalties. I wish there was a way to make the refs stop keying on Holmstrom for doing his job within the rules, and that diving penalty last night was absurd. And the funny thing is, it was like they were looking for Holmstrom to screw up for just about anything, apparently when he got the curtain call hook around his skate, he fell down too quickly for the refs liking.... oh well, I could ***** all day about pissing calls....

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

yeah, not even from a "homer" stand point, Mick gets pissed at s***ty calls for or against the Wings. There really is no way to fix it tho, refs see ghosts and call phantom penalties. I wish there was a way to make the refs stop keying on Holmstrom for doing his job within the rules, and that diving penalty last night was absurd. And the funny thing is, it was like they were looking for Holmstrom to screw up for just about anything, apparently when he got the curtain call hook around his skate, he fell down too quickly for the refs liking.... oh well, I could ***** all day about pissing calls....

Apparently one of those ghosts bumps into goalies when Homer is within 5 feet of them.

[Echolalia 2,961]

The nhl just needs to tell the refs to be a little more conservative about their calling. Yes hooking is technically illegal, but its also technically a part of the game. So is interference. Its one of those things that you can't draw a clean line down and say "everything that's beyond this point is illegal", but unfortunately Bettman has these refs going by exactly whats in the rulebook, whether an "illegal" play even slows down the other team or not.

But yes, this is quite rediculious.

[SweWings 45]

Dumb calls are a part of most sports - what would we do without them?

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Apparently one of those ghosts bumps into goalies when Homer is within 5 feet of them.

I AM NOSTRADAMUS AND I HATE IT!!!!

Seriously, we need a coach review flag.

[NHLrules? 32]

It would be nice if the NHL would review the games and grade the officials.

These guys get worse every year.

They should see if the refs are doing a good job, and if not they should enforce consequences and maybe loss of jobs.

Im tired of seeing officials ruin games or control entire playoff series.

[dallas27 7]

I bet they could train chimps to ref. And you would never argue a call because the chimp would just throw s*** at you, literally. You don't want that. Go to the sinbin and serve your time.

[Nero 20]

We are in the 21st century. We have digital cameras and the man power required for quick and efficient officiating. Put referees on the ice. If they see an action they feel violates the rules, then have the play stop and the call reviewed, and appropriate penalties assessed if required.

If a coach or assistant coach feels that a penalty has occurred then they may request a stop in play and have the play reviewed. Appropriate penalties assessed if required. If it is blatantly obvious that no penalty occurred and the request was made just to delay a game, then the requesting team receives a major penalty.

During the game, a team of trained professionals watch the game live using all video feeds available from the arena (or even just watch the game from the press box..) and should they see a penalty, it will be assessed.

Face it, the few referees can't see everything. This is an issue that needs to be fixed.

[Barrie 900]

My friend (who's a Wings fan) said to me that today's call is similar to the goal that was called off against Colorado when we played them on February 1st. Actually we watched that game together, and both of us at the time it happened said the goal should have counted for the Avs, but we'll take the "no goal" call. We ended up winning that game 2-0.

Maybe we got a break on February 1st, and didn't today. Over a 82 game season, maybe these things even themself out after a while.

I'm pissed at the call, but just something to think about.....

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

We do need more in the NHL. The McGeoughs and O'Hallorans of the NHL are pissing fans off with bad, game altering calls. They should not be the be all-end all of the outcome of the game.

[Mors 201]

How about actually training the refs? these guys are pathetic. The fact that McGeough wasn't fired years ago speaks for itself.

[CenterIce 83]

My take is to get rid of the rule that once a penalty is called it can't be dropped and give the linesman back the ability to either make some calls or inform the refs. I would like the officials the ability to confer, to see which one has the best angle.

[Mickeyisms Rule! 0]

Hire the guy that played the Gestapo colonel in the original Temple of Doom movie to be the "Chief of Referee Improvement."

Herr O'Halloran, vee vish to talk to you about your call at the end of the Red Vings game. Vould you like a last cigarette?

[Turkey 0]

How would it be if coaches could demand that one non-reviewed goal per game be reviewed. They get one shot and the decision would then be final. Would that be too disruptive? Would it even get used?

[sinbin 3]

I AM NOSTRADAMUS AND I HATE IT!!!!

Seriously, we need a coach review flag.

I agree......an appeals card.......plus, it was a goal scored...........why isn't that, reviewable?

[calfan 0]

DID YOU KNOW:

That the NHL referees and linesmen, just like the players, represent the best of the best? They have to have earned their stripes (small pun intended) at other levels of hockey prior to coming to the NHL. You can't just show up at a try out and be in the NHL.

That the NHL invests significant time and money into continual training for the referees? They have training during the offseason and during the year. They meet with NHL officials on a regular basis to review game tapes of their calls - good, bad and the things they should have called. They can even get a call from the NHL office during the intermission during a game to discuss what happened on the ice during the previous period.

That being an NHL referee is an incredibly demanding job? These guys get next to nothing for breaks during a game. They have to bust their ass from one side of the ice to the other, all the while avoiding players and that little black thing which moves around at speeds up to and over 100mph. They have to be in the right position all the time while not interfering with the play going on around them. They have to see and interpret the difference between a penalty and a non-penalty happening at any time all around them.

That penalty is spelled with an 'a' not an 'e' in the second syllable?

That bad calls are in the eyes of the beholder? I was sitting in front of two friends (one an Oilers fan, one a Flames fan) the other night. They disagreed on every call and non-call made the whole game.

That a diving call can occur when, in the referee's opinion, a player embellishes a hook, trip, etc.. or when they go down in an attempt to draw a penalty? Most of these guys can skate and yet the guy who can slip between three players and fire a goal with one foot in the air and one hand on his stick is the same guy who can get knocked over by a simple tap in the ankles that wouldn't knock over a two year old skating for the first time.

That most players and coaches, while occasionally complaining about one call or another rarely blame the officiating for a loss? "Yes we didn't like that call, but..." is more often what you hear when they are asked.

Give it a rest. They want to do and do do a good job. Any big brother interference would be more detrimental to the game than fixing this perceived problem.

[wingsfan75 2]

I'm at the point now where I don't think it's a bad idea at all to allow for a coach's challenge to a goal and only a goal. Situations like yesterday's game, where the outcome of the game was directly affected by a bad call should have some ability to be overturned. I don't want to see replay after replay slowing the game down but I can think of at least a dozen games in the past 3 to 4 seasons where an important game was ultimately decided by the refs. IMO, the best way to handle something like this would be to penalize the team whose challenge is overruled. That would deter a coach from challenging every goal.

[Nero 20]

That being an NHL referee is an incredibly demanding job?

Sounds a lot like a goaltender.

That most players and coaches, while occasionally complaining about one call or another rarely blame the officiating for a loss? "Yes we didn't like that call, but..." is more often what you hear when they are asked.

They would be fined otherwise.