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What happened, Holland? Cap space for what?

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Guest Agalloch

I can't ******* believe this. He ******* saves all this cap space for trading and he doesn't do s***. He let EVERYONE get away and now the Wings are f***ed. They don't have nearly enough depth defensively or offensively.

I can't ******* believe it. Give GM to someone with some balls.

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You are all saying he let them get away, like Det was every other GM's first call and Holland said, nah, you know what I will pass, go ahead and offer him to another team, but thanks for thinking of me!

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So lets see, signing the second highest point getting d-man in the league was doing nothing in the off season.

Ye of short memory, thou shall not smoketh to much bongeth!!

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Look, just because LW and I don't drink the Red Kool Aid like most of you homers do, doesn't mean that the points we make are bad. The fact is that Holland isn't doing jacks*** today means that we probably won't be as competitive in the playoffs. In fact, Dallas just got considerably stronger today, as well as Colorado. We don't even match up well with the Ducks as it stands today.

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Oh, and what also pisses me off is how cheap everything has come this year. Richards went for s***, Fedorov (though I didn't want him) went for nothing, Huet went for nothing, Salei went for nothing, Foote went for very little.

This is bulls***.

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...well from reading all the responses here, I see I am not the only one who thinks Holland just fell off the short bus. Why don't we ban everyone who has an opiion opposite of "The Wings are Gods" "Holland is the best" and "Hudler is omnipotent!" that would make an interesting forum...

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Richards didn't go for cheap if it was Det that traded it would have cost

Howard (future netminder in Det)

Huds

and if not a top ranking d prospect (not Ericsson)

And so that you know Foote had to waive a NTC, and very rarely do teams in the same division trade.

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...well from reading all the responses here, I see I am not the only one who thinks Holland just fell off the short bus. Why don't we ban everyone who has an opiion opposite of "The Wings are Gods" "Holland is the best" and "Hudler is omnipotent!" that would make an interesting forum...

Didn't you hand in your Red Wings badge??

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Oh, and what also pisses me off is how cheap everything has come this year. Richards went for s***, Fedorov (though I didn't want him) went for nothing, Huet went for nothing, Salei went for nothing, Foote went for very little.

This is bulls***.

Salei went for nothing? Skrastins and a 3rd round pick?

Detroit would have had to trade Lilja and a 2nd round pick (which they don't have) to even come close to matching that offer.

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...we trust this guy? He's brought us DISAPPOINTMENT every year!!!

...Feds to Caps? You f*cking think Ovechkin is a scoring machine now? Wait till he has Fedorov setting him up?!?!

LA Kings or Florida Panthers is a disappointment.

I would have loved to have Feds go to Wings. But Holland is doing just fine. I would prefer team making playoff every year to satisfying fans desire for big trades.

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Why don't you create your own topic to ***** about "pants-pissers" instead of posting in ours!? *****.

Because I'm a bandwidth and organizationally-friendly poster.

Not all trade will be reported until around 5 PM.

The same people bitching in here would be pissed if we did make a trade and gave up too much. I know we need someone as much as anyone, but the deadline isn't over.

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...well from reading all the responses here, I see I am not the only one who thinks Holland just fell off the short bus. Why don't we ban everyone who has an opiion opposite of "The Wings are Gods" "Holland is the best" and "Hudler is omnipotent!" that would make an interesting forum...

It's more about being realistic. Look at all the moves, how many would have made sense for the Wings? Either it would have cost us to much to get him (Richards), we don't need him (Huet), and/or there's no chance those teams would have traded with the Wings (Lapointe, Foote, Fedorov).

Let me add, that adding Hossa wouldn't make sense either. Hossa is another Zetterberg and Datsyuk, and would be difficult to fit the 3 of them under the cap in the future. Hossa also is a no show in the playoffs. Sooo :thumbdown: if you ask me.

Going into the deadline, the only guys I thought made sense to add were McCarty and Sundin. We got McCarty, and Sundin decided to stay with Toronto.

If we make no more deals today, I'm not upset but looking forward to getting healthy.

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Didn't you hand in your Red Wings badge??

...uh that is Red Wings card, but that doesn't mean I cannot come on this forum and enjoy all you guys sucking on the teet of Ken Holland and then laughing when the Wings lose their #1 seed and then lose in the first round (swept prolly.) Just because I am not blinded by the Ken Holland light doesn't mean I cannot comment on this forum...

...Last I checked it was still a free country, for now. And until the Illuminati totally take away every single one of my rights as a US citizen (which they are slowly doing) I can say, post and read whatever I want! Not quite Farenheit 451 yet, but 1984 has come and gone and Big Brother is watching and Ken Holland still sucks...

...and yes my Wings card is burned, doesn't mean I cannot be here. You should take the goggles off for once, stop walking down that narrow hallway...

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Wait, so the Stanley Cup is now awarded to whatever team makes the most deadline deals?

Interesting you should say that. There's a book here in Canada called "The 100 Greatest Hockey Arguments". One of the chapters is about the trade deadline. Most teams that win the Stanley Cup make minor house cleaning moves, the ones that make a major splash, never go all the way.

http://www.amazon.ca/McCowns-Law-Greatest-...5348&sr=1-1

I don't have the list in front of me, but I've looked at it, and heard it talked about on the radio. In recent History, the only team that make big moves that went on to win the Stanley Cup was 2006 Hurricanes, when they added Weight and Recchi.

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Does it really take that much hockey knowledge to realize that this team's offence gets pretty shallow after Datsyuk and Zetterberg? Or that Andreas Lilja in your top four isn't a great idea?

I agree.... QFT

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Guest Agalloch

OMFG PITTSBURGH GOT HOSSA FOR NOTHING! NOTHING!

f*** YOU HOLLAND.

OMFG. Everything went SO cheap and Holland di NOTHING. f***.

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...well from reading all the responses here, I see I am not the only one who thinks Holland just fell off the short bus. Why don't we ban everyone who has an opiion opposite of "The Wings are Gods" "Holland is the best" and "Hudler is omnipotent!" that would make an interesting forum...

Nope, our opinions just make sense. Yours are based on ridiculous conclusions you've drummed up like Fedorov went for cheap so its Holland's fault for not getting him. The fact that you bring up players like him or Foote or Huet shows how far behind the curve you are to begin with. Of course our differing opinions look so flawed to you. You don't know which end is up to begin with.

By the way, did you ever respond to my question about how many teams dealt with a division rival today? NOPE.

Did you even stop to think about that being a reason why Foote didn't sign here? NOPE. Did you know about his no trade clause and him saying he would only waive it to go to Colorado? NOPE.

Having a different opinion is fine. But at least do your homework so that your opinion looks like it is based upon rational, critical thinking and not yammering jibberish spewed out in some expletive-laden tirade.

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...Last I checked it was still a free country, for now. And until the Illuminati totally take away every single one of my rights as a US citizen (which they are slowly doing) I can say, post and read whatever I want! Not quite Farenheit 451 yet, but 1984 has come and gone and Big Brother is watching and Ken Holland still sucks...

Interesting take, but unfortunately your "freedom of speech" rights aren't taken into consideration when it comes to privately owned and operated web sites.

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