Game one notes...

[DallasStars 0]

Well, we got whooped.

Im not quite sure what team boarded the plane to Detroit, but it sure wasn't the Dallas Stars. We looked like an adult instructional league all night long. We have got to stay out of the box. 3 powerplay goals? Seriously? What the heck happened to our penalty kill. I know one of the came on a 5-on-3(which shouldn't have been IMO), but still...unacceptable. Not to mention our powerplay hardly occupying the offensive zone.

Top to bottom we were outplayed. We looked tired(i dont know why), and just flat-out uninterested.

We need to come out game two and play Stars hockey. With the heart and grit we've come accustomed to seeing. That was bush. Although, I think it's silly some of you guys here and over on our board are talking sweep.

On a side note, I know this has probably been beaten to death already, but where in the heck did ya'lls fans go? Is there a bar or something in the arena( I know thats where alot of our folks go). I was expecting it to get better and it never did.

Well, here is to a better game two.

[Nero 20]

Dallas has "grit" and "heart"? They let San Jose force a quadruple overtime and almost tie the series. They either couldn't contain San Jose, or didn't have "grit" and "heart".

And you have just witnessed Detroit playing Winged-Wheel hockey. They make the other team play the way they want them to play. I wouldn't expect your team to just "click" tomorrow Detroit was making them play that way.

[irishtemper14+25 11]

well when i went to take a leak during the game(made me miss the HUGE kronner hit....i was so mad), there were a good number of people standing by the vendors eating food/ watching the game on tv and that just confused me

[Hockeytown Red Wings 245]

Looks like 20,000 fans to me....

[Earthhuman 8]

Dallas has "grit" and "heart"? They let San Jose force a quadruple overtime and almost tie the series. They either couldn't contain San Jose, or didn't have "grit" and "heart".

And you have just witnessed Detroit playing Winged-Wheel hockey. They make the other team play the way they want them to play. I wouldn't expect your team to just "click" tomorrow Detroit was making them play that way.

Don't scare this guy off! He's a polite poster, few and far between and whatnot.

Game 2 will be more entertaining for both teams to watch, methinks.

[thedisappearer 291]

I know one of the came on a 5-on-3(which shouldn't have been IMO),

Really? The third man in threw two gloved punched to the opponent's face and you are surprised? Really?

[redwingsgirl 0]

Really? The third man in threw two gloved punched to the opponent's face and you are surprised? Really?

Worse has happened in front of the net without a call being made - and especially without calls being made to put it on a 5 on 3. I'm not saying, I am opposed to the call working in our favor, but really it was made to send the message early to both teams to cut the extracurriculars after the whistle.

Wings take game 2, Dallas game 3, Wings 4 and 5!

GO WINGS!

[thedisappearer 291]

Worse has happened in front of the net without a call being made - and especially without calls being made to put it on a 5 on 3. I'm not saying, I am opposed to the call working in our favor, but really it was made to send the message early to both teams to cut the extracurriculars after the whistle.

Was the call made to let everyone know the extra s*** has to stop? Sure.

Was it a clear cut roughing call? Sure. Let me repeat: The third man in threw two gloved punched to the opponent's face.

[Konnan511 1,736]

Was the call made to let everyone know the extra s*** has to stop? Sure.

Was it a clear cut roughing call? Sure. Let me repeat: The third man in threw two gloved punched to the opponent's face.

Third man in was not penalized. Ott threw the punches, not the guy who got sent to the box.

[nkuehnl 0]

Was the call made to let everyone know the extra s*** has to stop? Sure.

Was it a clear cut roughing call? Sure. Let me repeat: The third man in threw two gloved punched to the opponent's face.

The issue here is that playoff calls are clearly different than regular season calls, even if the NHL won't admit it. It was a weak roughing call regardless of the situation, and on top of that, it came when Dallas was a man down. It was clearly a call that was made to set a tone, and those types of calls just shouldn't happen when a team is already down. Both teams committed roughing penalties there, Detroit just got lucky that the refs only took one guy off.

The Wings outplayed the Stars by a lot, but the calls also went in Detroit's favor as I've said before. Kronwall left his feet on his monster hit, no call. Fistric throws a weak punch in the middle of the scrum, Dallas goes two men down.

There's a legitimate complaint there, but ultimately it probably wouldn't have affected the result of the game.

[DallasStars 0]

Dallas has "grit" and "heart"? They let San Jose force a quadruple overtime and almost tie the series. They either couldn't contain San Jose, or didn't have "grit" and "heart".

And you have just witnessed Detroit playing Winged-Wheel hockey. They make the other team play the way they want them to play. I wouldn't expect your team to just "click" tomorrow Detroit was making them play that way.

haha we let San Jose force a quadruple overtime? San Jose has world-class talent, much like Detroit. It easily could have been San Jose's series from the getgo. Heart and grit is why we won.

You speak of San Jose as if they were Nashville...oh wait.

(im sorry i had to.)

Edited May 10, 2008 by DallasStars

[OsGOD 3]

On a side note, I know this has probably been beaten to death already, but where in the heck did ya'lls fans go? Is there a bar or something in the arena( I know thats where alot of our folks go). I was expecting it to get better and it never did.

Idk you tell me... don't believe the biased Media... they are tools.... people were there they just wait until 1min left in a 4-1 ass kicking to snap a picture so they can complain... this picture looks pretty full to me

and this is when it was 3-0 midway through the game...

Edited May 10, 2008 by OsGOD

[fastballspecial 0]

Dallas got pwnt. Hard.

[Echolalia 2,961]

I agree that the penalties were generally weak, and say what you want about the refs sending a message that they aren't going to put up with "that crap". Last time I checked "that crap" is a part of hockey, but whatever, the calls could've went either way and theres no point arguing something where both sides have enough support to not budge on their position.

Anyway, even without the penalties, the game was pretty one-sided and I hope that it gets more exciting in the future.

[BigShooter 0]

I agree that the penalties were generally weak, and say what you want about the refs sending a message that they aren't going to put up with "that crap". Last time I checked "that crap" is a part of hockey, but whatever, the calls could've went either way and theres no point arguing something where both sides have enough support to not budge on their position.

Anyway, even without the penalties, the game was pretty one-sided and I hope that it gets more exciting in the future.

I agree, penalties tend to work out that way. All these one sided games worry me, I don't want to see the Wings put it on autopilot. I think that's been our problem the last few years more than anything, Dallas beating the Sharks was a prime example of the fact that you can't win on pure talent in this league, you've gotta have the passion behind it.

[Barrie 900]

Idk you tell me... don't believe the biased Media... they are tools.... people were there they just wait until 1min left in a 4-1 ass kicking to snap a picture so they can complain... this picture looks pretty full to me

and this is when it was 3-0 midway through the game...

Yea every game has been a sell out, so I don't understand why people are saying the building is half full.

[OsGOD 3]

Yea every game has been a sell out, so I don't understand why people are saying the building is half full.

its like i said in one of the other billion fan bashing threads...

I often go out late at night to my work and take pictures of the empty parking lot and say where the f*** is everyone??? its only 11pm on a friday night... they should be working!!!!

Its all timing of the picture... they want to mock attendance they take pics with under 2mins of a 4-1 ass kicking... they get what they want!

[RedLightGoesOn 81]

We need to come out game two and play Stars hockey. With the heart and grit we've come accustomed to seeing. That was bush. Although, I think it's silly some of you guys here and over on our board are talking sweep.

Well, here is to a better game two.

You really dont understand why the Stars are here and why the Wings are here do you? Let me illustrate -- it took you 4 OTs in game 6 to beat a team you were 3-0 against in the series. Detroit swept with Franzen having 2 hat tricks.... See the difference? See why we think like that? If you want us to stop talking about a sweep... Dallas has to win a game.

But if it makes you happy I said Wings in 5.

[DallasStars 0]

You really dont understand why the Stars are here and why the Wings are here do you? Let me illustrate -- it took you 4 OTs in game 6 to beat a team you were 3-0 against in the series. Detroit swept with Franzen having 2 hat tricks.... See the difference? See why we think like that? If you want us to stop talking about a sweep... Dallas has to win a game.

But if it makes you happy I said Wings in 5.

If we had played the same opponent then that would be relevant. I was not bashing your team or players. I was merely stating that the way we played was bush league. And, I think it's silly to talk sweep of anyone. I dont care how good your team is. You're right, we were up 3-0 on San Jose and yes it did take 4 OT's to put them away. But, we put them away. Just like Detroit put away Colorado. The fashion in which it's done does not matter. Just like what Franzen did in the earlier rounds no longer matters. As far as im concerened, he's scored one goal so far.

[egroen 384]

And, I think it's silly to talk sweep of anyone. I dont care how good your team is. You're right, we were up 3-0 on San Jose and yes it did take 4 OT's to put them away. But, we put them away. Just like Detroit put away Colorado. The fashion in which it's done does not matter. Just like what Franzen did in the earlier rounds no longer matters. As far as im concerened, he's scored one goal so far.

It's not silly, and it does matter... at least to fans who like to chat in message boards about their favorite teams.

There have been two sweeps this year already, and an injured Colorado team made a much better go of it in the first game than Dallas did. Under such circumstances it is not "silly" to talk sweep at this point. The fashion in which a team eliminates another team can be important. To deny a strong come from behind win, or that an utter domination is not a great confidence booster while a try and hold on for our life is not demoralizing is fanciful at best. Franzen's earlier success in the playoffs show he is more than capable of being a success in the playoffs. He has the ability to be a difference maker.

These are great indicators that allow us armchair hockey analysts to venture guesses that are perhaps more educated than the mindless brayings of mere homerism. Are you saying you are not one of us?

Edited May 10, 2008 by egroen

[DallasStars 0]

haha Im in a no win situation here. Whatever I say will be eventually quoted with a 5 paragraph response telling me why im wrong from someone.

If we all thought alike this world would suck. I am not one of you. But, I understand what you're saying.

[Nero 20]

If we had played the same opponent then that would be relevant. I was not bashing your team or players. I was merely stating that the way we played was bush league. And, I think it's silly to talk sweep of anyone. I dont care how good your team is. You're right, we were up 3-0 on San Jose and yes it did take 4 OT's to put them away. But, we put them away. Just like Detroit put away Colorado. The fashion in which it's done does not matter. Just like what Franzen did in the earlier rounds no longer matters. As far as im concerened, he's scored one goal so far.

You are starting to sound like a hypocrite One of Detroit's players (Franzen) performance in an earlier round means nothing now - but what do you think about Brenden Morrow?

There's no reason to argue about this You witnessed Detroit playing their game. On to Game #2.

Let's go Red Wings!

Edited May 10, 2008 by Nero

[arnoldbuck 0]

haha Im in a no win situation here. Whatever I say will be eventually quoted with a 5 paragraph response telling me why im wrong from someone.

If we all thought alike this world would suck. I am not one of you. But, I understand what you're saying.

Not exactly replying to the topic, but I'm just adding that I personally appreciate having you around on these boards. It is always nice to have opinions from the other side of the story.

In any case, regardless of how awesome I think this Red WIngs squad is, I dont see this being an easy series. Dallas has been strong all season, and they have been just as strong so far this playoffs. And, that game 6 against San Jose was the most exciting game i think I have watched in years. That awesome. I continue to look forward to a wicked series, of course eventually in the Wings favour.

[ifonlyicouldskate 11]

I don't understand why everyone rips on nashville? Besides being from a non typical hockey area, the preds so far have played better than any team we have faced in these playoffs. That also includes the first game by Dallas Stars. So until the Stars play better than the Preds against us, it shouldn't be brought up. We won the right to play the lower seeds in the playoffs because we won our conference period. Yes we had an easier path to get there, but that just means we will be fresher, more energized and by the looks of game 1, alot more hungry for it.

[Dawgs 0]

Detroit is the deepest team left in the playoffs. They have the most skill top to bottom. They have the best defense. 82 games in the regular season and 11 so far in the playoffs have demostrated this point quite well. If Detroit plays its game it will continue to make Dallas look bad no matter if Dallas plays thier game or not. Detroit is simply a more complete hockey team.

Conversely, the two weak offensive teams that Dallas has played made them look so much better than what thier roster would indicate. Dallas hasnt faced this level of skill and speed. And do not doubt that Detroit is a level above Anaheim and San Jose. Just look at last years playoffs. If Kronwall and Schneider had been healthy and the refs hadnt stolen game 4 from Detroit with the chintziest penalty call Ive ever seen with 1 minute left in a one goal game, Anaheim wouldnt have won a cup.