Conn Smythe Trophy Discussion

[Texas Wingnut 0]

I think it's a little early to start this discussion here. Wait until three wins have been posted. Too many guys are playing lights out right now.

[Nev 1,085]

Clearly between Ozzie & Z right now - but the thing is, if the Wings continue to suffocate the Pens, Zetterberg will get a LOT of credit for shutting down Crosby. Post-season scoring leader *and* erasing the NHL's Golden Child?

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

No Pen will win it.

The losing team has never had a player other than the goaltender win, with the exception of Reggie Leach and his goal scoring record. No Pen forward has even come close to that kind of offensive dominance, and Fleury hasn't been considered Pittsburgh's MVP at any point this run.

But you're forgetting about Bettman's "Golden Boy" Sidney Crosby. I wouldn't be surpised at all if the league gave it to him just to market him further.

[Rice 42]

But you're forgetting about Bettman's "Golden Boy" Sidney Crosby. I wouldn't be surpised at all if the league gave it to him just to market him further.

Good thing the league doesn't control who gets the trophy.

[mjlegend 155]

Good thing the league doesn't control who gets the trophy.

The writers who have been heretofore fellating The Golden Child do vote, though.

[Hiei 192]

OZZIE! OZZIE! OZZIE! OZZIE! OZZIE! OZZIE! OZZIE! OZZIE! OZZIE! OZZIE!

AHEM....what?

[Chaldean 0]

Osgood down, Franzen moving close now.

[Yzermania 156]

Osgood down, Franzen moving close now.

I agree!

I know we haven't won yet but I believe we will and if Franz happens to get a big goal in one of the next two wins, perhaps a game winner or something or just has a decent multi point night, I think he will get it. It was said writers vote. The writers haven't been too friendly to the wings...except the Mule. He'd have just as many or more points as anyone else if he didn't miss 6 games and I think that will strongly be brought into consideration.

[MalkinsJock 0]

Datsyuk has been the most consistent player in this roster. Even during his "bad" games hes still setting guys up, eating up time and providing good defensive play. When Zetterberg has a bad game, hes a ghost.

1. Datsyuk

2. Lidstrom

3. Franzen

4. Osgood

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

Exactly why Ozzie won't win the Conn Smythe, because he can't steal a game by himself.

Zetterberg, Franzen, or Kronwall will win it.

[Yzermania 156]

Datsyuk has been the most consistent player in this roster. Even during his "bad" games hes still setting guys up, eating up time and providing good defensive play. When Zetterberg has a bad game, hes a ghost.

1. Datsyuk

2. Lidstrom

3. Franzen

4. Osgood

I very much agree with your assesment of pavs and hank when they are not scoring, you are dead on but I think that the whole "out of nowhere gol scoring machine fals to a concussion and comes back" story will help johan, but like I said, I think in order for that to happen, he needs to have atleast one more BIG game. Datsyuk probabaly deserves it but he stays under the radar so much that I'm not sure he will get it but he surely has ben incredible through out this post season.

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

Kronwall is my pick

comedy option: lilja

[digitaljohn88 4]

Exactly why Ozzie won't win the Conn Smythe, because he can't steal a game by himself.

Zetterberg, Franzen, or Kronwall will win it.

Now this is an inherent problem. It's harder to judge when a forward "steals" a game, or wins it mostly on his effort. The real question is, who has the biggest impact, night in and night out? Honestly, I'd give it to Ozzie. So he hasn't outright stolen a game. Big ******* deal. He's saving 93.5% of the pucks that come his way, and gives the Red Wings machine the base it needs to run strong. He hasn't lost any games for us. How many goalies go an entire 2-month playoff run without a bad game? I think the Wings run such a strong team effort, that Oz becomes the natural choice. Secondary scoring, solid goaltending, and strong team defense has gotten us this far. Ozzie is the individual that best exemplifies those 3 things.

Zetterberg has had more important multipoint efforts than any other Wings forward, and has 3 GWG to his name. Zetterberg has won us a couple of games, no question. Also, great defensive effort, but will that count towards the Smythe?

Datsyuk has only had one multipoint game where it really mattered, and just one GWG. Plays great D, but D is harder to judge for the Conn Smythe.

Franzen scored 9 of his 12 goals in the weak Colorado series, and missed the Western Conference Finals. He's out of the running unless he absolutely SHINES in the finals.

Kronwall has 13 assists, has been one of the most physical players in the playoffs, and has a higher +/- than Lids, but I'm just not seeing much Conn Smythe pull. Could happen with a few monster games in the finals.

Osgood has been a model of consistency, and he has the stats to back it up. Even in his losses, the Wings were in the game and he gave them plenty chance to win. Should finish with a GAA under 1.75 and a SV% around .935% if all goes well. Two finals shutouts so far -- another one would lock up the Smythe no matter what happens.

[Kira 451]

I honestly believe that with every game, Pasha makes his argument for winning it more apparent.

[YzerPucks19 4]

Zettie or Osgood right now. Even though Ozzie has only been facing 20 shots a game he has made big saves for the WINGS. I personally think Osgood saved the Wings playoffs. I didn't have a lot of confidence in Hasek after games 3 and 4 vs the PREDS.

As long as the Wings win the Cup I don't care.

[digitaljohn88 4]

I honestly believe that with every game, Pasha makes his argument for winning it more apparent.

Datsyuk is at least at the level of Z, but 0 goals at home compared to 9 away is just... weird. I think his defensive impact is bigger than Z's.

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

I like Ozzie and all but he WILL NOT win the conn smythe.

It's Zetterbergs to lose IMO.

[digitaljohn88 4]

I like Ozzie and all but he WILL NOT win the conn smythe.

It's Zetterbergs to lose IMO.

It's impossible to rule Ozzy out right now. Zetterberg has 1g 1a 0+/- in three finals games. If he doesn't have a good game or two in the finals, Osgood could very well win.

The Smythe is going to come down to these last few games. Whoever distances himself from the pack. I still think it will be Ozzy... Dats, Z, Franzen, Lids, and Kronwall will split votes unless SOMEONE has a big game or two to finish out.

[BlakChamber 8]

Right now, I don't see anyone but Ozzie winning it.

[Chaldean 0]

Now that it is 3-1, I have added a poll in the first post

[MabusIncarnate 5,359]

I like Ozzie and all but he WILL NOT win the conn smythe.

It's Zetterbergs to lose IMO.

Sorry, but that's a pretty mindless statement, what would factor him not being the favorite? 3 shut outs, two in the finals, and an absolutely stellar GAA and SV%. I'd love to hear the logic behind Ozzie having no chance of getting it.

[SoDakWing 8]

1. Osgood

2. Hank

only two options I see fit

[mmorland 16]

Osgood hands down. He stole the game tonight and i don't see us being this deep into the playoffs with Hasek in net.

[PaVel DaTsYuK fan13 0]

ZETTERBERG ZETTERBERG AND ZETTERBERG.

Tonight I saw the best performance I've witnessed by a player who didn't get their name on the scoresheet. So many deserving guys, but I have no doubt left that Hank deserves it.

[Hockeymom1960 5,107]

Zetterberg all the way. NOT Osgood!