egroen 384 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey...3268/story.html As the NHL draft wrapped up Saturday, an executive with one of the league's 30 teams leaned on the metal fence separating the draft floor from the media and asked about Dany Heatley. Told that Senators general manager Bryan Murray had not yet even received an offer, the league executive nodded and said: "That's because nobody wants him. Nobody." I just can not imagine Holland ever getting the Wings in such a situation. Edited June 30, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata20 4 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey...3268/story.html I just can not imagine Holland ever getting the Wings in such a situation. To be fair to Murray, it was Heatley who requested the trade, but i guess it is Murrary's fault for signing him to such a huge contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 Pro Heatley reading. I dont blame the guy.. From contenders to pretenders I cant think of any other team that has fell on its face like the Sens.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 I would think every team wants him. It's his contract they don't want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 David Poile (Preds GM) said Heatley rubbed alot of GMs the wrong way by making his trade demands public. Alot of people really underestimate how much that can really screw over the process Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 I would think every team wants him. It's his contract they don't want. Yeah, I would love Heatley, if we could get him for a lot less, but not at 7 million with a 4 million bonus due July 1st Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 Heatley sounds like a pain in the ass, but a bad signing nonetheless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 Heatley is just not our type of player. I'm not saying he isn't good but there is no way he'd fit into our style of play. I wish him the best but I doubt we'll ever see him in Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 His horrible contract and his signing bonus tommorow, mixed with pubicly asking for a trade, has kept everyone but Edmonton and New York from sending serious offers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted June 30, 2009 that bonus he will be getting, is that something that will have a caphit or something? because if not.. 4 million is nothing for a wealthy owner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darvesh88 8 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 Heatley is just not our type of player. I'm not saying he isn't good but there is no way he'd fit into our style of play. I wish him the best but I doubt we'll ever see him in Detroit. I think both sides are at fault for the way things went down. Murray is a nut, he offered too much money without trying to resolve the issues Heatley had with the team (PP, role on team, ice-time). What do you expect? Sign a star player to a massive contract and not address thier concerns with the team? obviously he is going to want out. Heatley should have tried to handle this more discreetly instead of going about it publicly. This was eventually going to happen, senators are a sinking ship, why should any star player in the prime of thier career waste it away waiting for the team to turn around? as for other teams not wanting Heatley is bullcrap, who the hell doesn't want a 50 goal scorer? its the list of teams Heatley has given and the offer the senators are expecting makes it hard to trade him. If the sens really wanted to get rid of him and save the 4mil bonus, it would be the usual prospects + picks deal and you cut your losses. Also most teams that can afford Heatley don't want him or they aren't on his list because most non-contending teams with cap space want to get better with youth like pitts, LA etc instead of signing/trading for stars which results in the 2002-03 NY Rangers roster. Frankly I don't know why Murray is still the GM he has single handedly ran the team into the ground since 2007. When your core players don't want to play on your team anymore something is wrong with YOU not them. Mostly I think its the way they are treating their players and some of them who are still with the team are sick of tolerating their bs. Go back to the signing Hossa to a extension and then trading him the next day. or how Redden and Chara left instead of taking small pay cuts and staying with them. Heatley will get traded eventually Ottawa has no choice bonus or no bonus, like the article said do you really want a 7 million /year disgruntled player in your locker room disturbing the team chemistry? Another Emery episode waiting to happen, a trade probably won't happen until the FA stars like Hossa, Havlat are off the market then teams who lost the bidding for the free agents may offer for heatley, otherwise why should a team give up assets when similar star players are available via FA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 Hwo does a signing bonus get added into a cap hit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darvesh88 8 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 Hwo does a signing bonus get added into a cap hit? It doesn't only performance bonus count against the cap to a certain percentage (according to wikipedia). Sens just want to save 4 mil on a player that won't be playing for them in the near future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 The $4 Million bonus is NOT, in fact, a bonus. Its $4 Million of Heatley's salary up front. Once July 1st rolls around, most owners will be a lot more interested in Heatley when his cap hit is 7.5M, but the team only has to pay him 3.5 of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darvesh88 8 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 The $4 Million bonus is NOT, in fact, a bonus. Its $4 Million of Heatley's salary up front. Once July 1st rolls around, most owners will be a lot more interested in Heatley when his cap hit is 7.5M, but the team only has to pay him 3.5 of it. That makes alot more sense, good post. So it would be 3.5 mil to be payed by his new team and then 7.5 after that correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunkylover 26 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 What's really sad is that the Wings are in such a bind with the cap right now even without any terrible contracts like Heatley's. If he came to Detroit he'd be the highest paid player, which is pretty ridiculous considering the talent the Wings have. On any given day one could argue that Raffi, Stu, Fil, or Clears are 100% worthy of their contract or are being overpaid (which seems to be what's been going on here since season's end). If we could only get through this season without losing too many pieces we'll be in good shape next season. Holland is a great GM. The cap sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 the way Heatley has handled this situation (and in the past) isn't going to endear himself to GMs. he appears to be a me-first kinda guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted June 30, 2009 the way Heatley has handled this situation (and in the past) isn't going to endear himself to GMs. he appears to be a me-first kinda guy What was the deal with the Sens locker room a couple years ago? Apparently it was like Real World: NHL and Heatley was one of the more memorable characters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 So with the 4 mil bonus paid does this make him more attractive now? Any new suitors in the mix? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 Actually, IIRC, it actually will make him harder to trade. The owner is not going to look kindly on shelling out 4 mil for a player that doesn't want to be there. It looks like they'll actually be trying to package some players with Heatley now, as a sort of salary dump, to make up for the money they had to spend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spydrwebb 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 heatley is selfish, bottom line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 Find a team he wants to go to.. Then trade him for whatever you can get.. At this point, hes an addition by subtraction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
numberthirtynine 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Nobody wants him? Nooooo no no this doesn't sound right. Even at his contract, having watched sports for over 20 years I've learned that if you're good enough, there's always someone desperate enough. There are teams with alot of space who need a star. Someone. Anyone. Sounds like mind games to me. If no one wants him you don't say it unless you have a reason. An ulterior motive. This comment draws interest or at least attention. And Edmonton wanted him. Just the team you'd think would. A dank, cruddy poor mans Calgary just desperate for ANY sort of good news. They have no star forward. They have no real coach. They only just got a goalie and we all know the playoff run was a monstrous fluke. And they're paying players like Viznovsky almost 6 mil a year either out of stupidity or just to escape the cap floor. Edmonton wanted him but Heatley didn't want to go. You think Colorado wouldn't take the guy? I'd trade the overpaid Ryan Smyth away for Heatley in a heart beat. You're getting rid of an overrated bum and only spending about a mil more to do it, and still you have room to shore up your defense. Why not? I'd scour more teams but NHL numbers is sketching out. Edited July 2, 2009 by numberthirtynine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 It doesn't only performance bonus count against the cap to a certain percentage (according to wikipedia). Sens just want to save 4 mil on a player that won't be playing for them in the near future. I think that's not true. Signing bonuses do count against the cap, which is why some rookies have much higher cap hits. Which is why Brunnstrom has a salary of I think 900 or 800K but a cap hit of 2.25MM. I'm fairly sure you take the signing bonus and spread it out evenly over the contract or something, or maybe that is the percentage thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
