Devellano says Wings close to signing Bertuzzi

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

I guess Bertuzzi will be our enforcer then with Lilja hurt.

Hopefully, Ericsson will also pitch in from time to time.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Bulls***.

For one, Moore hit Naslund legally, and Naslund was injured as he fell awkwardly. You can go on and on about it being a cheap shot but it was a legal hit and was ruled as such by the league.

Is that legal to you? In what sense of legal? He went to deliver a headshot, Naslund fell, and he stuck the elbow out and still got him.

Moore was a rat, he threw dirty hits, and he chirped at everyone. He was a useless 4th liner, I'm talking worse then Kopecky, if he had stood up, manned up, he'd still be a fringe forward making 500-800k in the NHL. Instead when Bertuzzi came calling, he turned his back to him and skated away, Bert was sticking up for his friend, his captain, he was doing what's expected, and it turned into a huge mistake. The pile up was unfortunate, the fact that Bertuzzi suckered him was unfortunate, but Moore should've known if you go after a 50 goal scorer, a captain, a player not known for being overly physical, and you INJURE SAID FORWARD, you got payback coming. This is the NHL, not the KHL, take it like a man.

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Is that legal to you? In what sense of legal? He went to deliver a headshot, Naslund fell, and he stuck the elbow out and still got him.

Moore was a rat, he threw dirty hits, and he chirped at everyone. He was a useless 4th liner, I'm talking worse then Kopecky, if he had stood up, manned up, he'd still be a fringe forward making 500-800k in the NHL. Instead when Bertuzzi came calling, he turned his back to him and skated away, Bert was sticking up for his friend, his captain, he was doing what's expected, and it turned into a huge mistake. The pile up was unfortunate, the fact that Bertuzzi suckered him was unfortunate, but Moore should've known if you go after a 50 goal scorer, a captain, a player not known for being overly physical, and you INJURE SAID FORWARD, you got payback coming. This is the NHL, not the KHL, take it like a man.

The check is definitely borderline and Im not surprised that some ppl say it was dirty and some say it was legal. Personally I have a hard time saying it was completely dirty. Sure he followed through a little bit with his elbow but it's no worse than any number of hits we see on a regular basis night in and night out in the NHL. The only difference is in this case Naslund fell into the hit as it was approaching.

For me, I say it was a borderline hit that could go either way. Either way you want to call it Bertuzzi punching Moore in the back of the head is dirty. I know his intentions weren't what eventually happened but a punch to the back of the head like that is dirty no matter how you spin it. At least, in my mind, Moore's hit was borderline and there wasn't a clear intent there.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

The check is definitely borderline and Im not surprised that some ppl say it was dirty and some say it was legal. Personally I have a hard time saying it was completely dirty. Sure he followed through a little bit with his elbow but it's no worse than any number of hits we see on a regular basis night in and night out in the NHL. The only difference is in this case Naslund fell into the hit as it was approaching.

For me, I say it was a borderline hit that could go either way. Either way you want to call it Bertuzzi punching Moore in the back of the head is dirty. I know his intentions weren't what eventually happened but a punch to the back of the head like that is dirty no matter how you spin it. At least, in my mind, Moore's hit was borderline and there wasn't a clear intent there.

I know it was dirty, and it was stupid, but in the heat of the moment anything can happen. I gave someone a concussion after they hit me from behind a couple years back, and felt like a complete ******* afterwards realizing it was a mistake. Bert should've just grabbed him and ragdolled the hell out of him till his teamates came in, but instead he suckered him. I know where Bert was coming from, he was trying to do the right thing, but emotions took over and he screwed up big time.

As far as Moore's hit, everyone knows what he was trying to do. He probably doesnt give him the concussion if Naslund doesnt fall, but a dirty hit is a dirty hit. Not on the same level as Bertuzzi's, obviously not, but it was dirty.

[eva unit zero 271]

Is that legal to you? In what sense of legal? He went to deliver a headshot, Naslund fell, and he stuck the elbow out and still got him.

Moore was a rat, he threw dirty hits, and he chirped at everyone. He was a useless 4th liner, I'm talking worse then Kopecky, if he had stood up, manned up, he'd still be a fringe forward making 500-800k in the NHL. Instead when Bertuzzi came calling, he turned his back to him and skated away, Bert was sticking up for his friend, his captain, he was doing what's expected, and it turned into a huge mistake. The pile up was unfortunate, the fact that Bertuzzi suckered him was unfortunate, but Moore should've known if you go after a 50 goal scorer, a captain, a player not known for being overly physical, and you INJURE SAID FORWARD, you got payback coming. This is the NHL, not the KHL, take it like a man.

The primary contact is with the hip. While Moore does get his elbow up, he's throwing a (basically) legal hip check and Naslund FELL into the check. If Naslund stays on his feet until Moore hits him, he's not injured at all. The problem here is that Moore is being accused of TRYING to hurt Naslund when in reality, he was not. He was throwing the kind of hit that gets thrown 10 times every game. Kronwall's hit that destroyed Havlat was less legal than that.

[uk_redwing 495]

Bulls***.

Yes. Your posts are bulls***. So what line is Hudler going to play on this season for Detroit?

[LeftWinger 5,153]

Well, I would welcome him back. Lets put the Steve Moore incident in a little more LOCAL perspective. Like the user said, was it planned to attack him, yes, did he plan to end his career no, but most people call him a thug and he doesn't deserve to be here. Lets look at Joey Kocur, a hero to a lot of us, a Bruise Brother and one the the toughest guys to ever play the game. Two words for you, Brad Delgarno. When Kocur fought Delgarno a long time ago, did he mean to bust his orbital bone and end Brad's career? No. Is Joe Kocur a thug that didn't belong in the NHL or was he your hero? Accidents happen in this violent sport. Maybe Moore should've of maned up and stood toe to toe with instead of skating away. Did Tie Domi skate away from Probert in their classic remath? Did Troy Crowder? Bertuzzi did his time, he paid his price that the NHL brought down on him. He deserves the right to earn a living...

Welcome back to Hockeytown Todd (if it is true) Bertuzzi! Help bring us back the Cup!

Lose Hossa, Sammy, Kopecky & Hudler for Helm, Leino, Williams, Eaves & Bertuzzi. I'd say we got a little grittier...

[newfy 695]

The primary contact is with the hip. While Moore does get his elbow up, he's throwing a (basically) legal hip check and Naslund FELL into the check. If Naslund stays on his feet until Moore hits him, he's not injured at all. The problem here is that Moore is being accused of TRYING to hurt Naslund when in reality, he was not. He was throwing the kind of hit that gets thrown 10 times every game. Kronwall's hit that destroyed Havlat was less legal than that.

Yeah because jumping into a guys head when he hasn't even played the puck and using your elbow is a clean hit. On top of the fact that this hit sidelined the 50 goal scoring captain of Bertuzzi's team, Moore was running around the ice all year chirping and being a dirty little s***. He deserved to get his ass kicked, I'm not saying he got what he deserved because a broken neck is horrible. And yeah the concussion Naslund got was because of that primary contact made to his hip.

Its fine if you don't want a big guy out there on our team who can play the game and play physical but don't try to make him sound like some horrible person because he did what he should've done and things didn't work out quite like he thought they would.

[HockeytownRules19 902]

a possible 1 year $1.5 million deal could be completed this week. I would welcome him back with open arms.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...g_with_for.html

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

Forwards

Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Holmstrom

Franzen/Filppula/Bertuzzi

Cleary/Williams/Leino

Helm/Draper/Eaves

Maltby

Defense

Lidstrom/Rafalski

Kronwall/Stuart

Ericsson/Lilja

Meech

Not as star studded as last year, but still a potent lineup.

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Forwards

Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Holmstrom

Franzen/Filppula/Bertuzzi

Cleary/Williams/Leino

Helm/Draper/Eaves

Maltby

Defense

Lidstrom/Rafalski

Kronwall/Stuart

Ericsson/Lilja

Meech

Not as star studded as last year, but still a potent lineup.

It won't be as star studded but that might be a good thing. We'll have more players this year who can fill roles instead of stars playing all situations. A little bit more bite in the lineup with Helm, Ericcson and hopefully Bertuzzi and a whole lot more balance. This team should be more fun to watch I think. We'll be seeing a bit more physicallity this year and alittle less pretty stuff I would assume and go back to more of the basics.

[rage 24]

AND NOW IT'S OFFICIAL!!!!!!1

[AtomicPunk 296]

Yeah, why not? He showed some flashes of being his old self last year...not the shell he was here for that one year. I'm not going to be one of those guys who gets pissed when the Wings pick up re-treads, it's really all we can do with our cap situation and although I would have liked to see a marquee player come here this year, it's not gonna happen. Let's hope Bert is motivated and wants to play hard.

[Casey 145]

a possible 1 year $1.5 million deal could be completed this week. I would welcome him back with open arms.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...g_with_for.html

Dear God I hope this doesn't happen. They don't need or want him.

[miller76 463]

Damn. This is like a freakin reunion show! Williams and Bertuzzi. Wow. I am sure Cory Cross and Jason Woolley are available. Maybe we can trade Lebda for Devereaux, and sign Lang, and Lapointe as rentals.

Looking forward to this season.

[rage 24]

Dear God I hope this doesn't happen. They don't need or want him.

Well if they don't want him, then I doubt you have anything to worry about.

[Doc Holiday 0]

I can't believe you people are actually putting any defense in what Bertuzzi did.

What a bunch of ******* bulls***. I'll welcome him to Detroit, but there is no excuse for what Bert did. None at all, and putting any fault in Moore because he put in a dirty check to a player is so far off base I can't believe it is coming from members at LGW. Who the f*** do you people think you are?

Cheap shots happen in hockey. Doesn't mean they should have their careers ended for it.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Aren't we already over the cap? I mean, I'm not sure how I feel about Bertuzzi coming back because I just can't tell how he will fit into the system, but as I see it we are already about 400K over, so now we are looking at being 1.9M over, right? Unless there is some structuring magic going on in this 1 year deal, are we going to have to drop 2 players to compensate?

[skacore 2]

I can't believe you people are actually putting any defense in what Bertuzzi did.

What a bunch of ******* bulls***. I'll welcome him to Detroit, but there is no excuse for what Bert did. None at all, and putting any fault in Moore because he put in a dirty check to a player is so far off base I can't believe it is coming from members at LGW. Who the f*** do you people think you are?

Cheap shots happen in hockey. Doesn't mean they should have their careers ended for it.

That's your opinion... what Moore did to Naslund was as dangerous as what Bertuzzi did to Moore, the results were just different. That's it, that's all it comes down to... leave it at that.

[ShanahanMan 473]

*Fingers Crossed*

MLive says "theres a strong indication that a deal will get done this week."

This would totally.....well, almost......cancel out the Williams move. Sign soon Bert!

[Booster313 138]

Aren't we already over the cap? I mean, I'm not sure how I feel about Bertuzzi coming back because I just can't tell how he will fit into the system, but as I see it we are already about 400K over, so now we are looking at being 1.9M over, right? Unless there is some structuring magic going on in this 1 year deal, are we going to have to drop 2 players to compensate?

With Abdelkader in GR next year the Wing are actually about 500k under the cap, if you ad in Bertuzzi you'd be 1mill over, subtract Lilja due to injury and you are around 250k under. If lilja comes back you have to free up 1mill, this would lead me to believe A. Abdelkader will be in GR most of the year and B. Lilja's injry might be career ending. Of course there is the possibility Bertuzzi's contact could be less with bonuses.

[eva unit zero 271]

Yes. Your posts are bulls***. So what line is Hudler going to play on this season for Detroit?

If you can quote where I ever said Hudler would definitely be on the Wings roster then congrats.

Otherwise, eat s*** because you are slamming me for things I never posted.

[newfy 695]

I can't believe you people are actually putting any defense in what Bertuzzi did.

What a bunch of ******* bulls***. I'll welcome him to Detroit, but there is no excuse for what Bert did. None at all, and putting any fault in Moore because he put in a dirty check to a player is so far off base I can't believe it is coming from members at LGW. Who the f*** do you people think you are?

Cheap shots happen in hockey. Doesn't mean they should have their careers ended for it.

Why not? A cheap shot for a cheap shot. Bertuzzi just got unlucky with the damage he caused or for that matter the pile up after caused. Well you said it yourself cheap shots happen in hockey. What Bert did was a cheapshot so by your standards it happens I guess. Bertuzzi didn't mean to end his career he meant to show him what happens when you mess with a 50 goal scoring, captain of his team. Yeah the result was horrible but its not like he grabbed the guy by the neck and twisted or something, his intent wasn't to end his career.

[Jedi 1,865]

Friendly reminder. Keep the discussions civil please.

[Vladiator 116]

Fine with Bert back in D but not for $1.5M. Although, between Williams and Bert, I think that Bert is worth the 1.5M more than Williams is.