Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted December 16, 2009 wouldn't he have to go through waivers? he'd probably be picked up by another team if so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Question is.. would Leino accept being sent down to GR? I'm pretty sure he will head back home to finland if that were to happen.. in the end of his GR time he was deadly fed up with it and he probably think he shouldn't be playing another AHL gameThe question is: do we want to lose someone if we don't have to? Leino would definitely be claimed by some other team. Send May down and that doesn't happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsasuk 2 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 First off, Holland is an amazing GM. His brilliance to find players such as Eaves, Miller and Newbury. I am so happy with Eaves and Miller. I think if nothing else, Wings/Holland may have just re-sparked their respective careers. Hopefully they can stay in Detroit. That said, when players start to come back we're going to (eventually) need to move some guys. Who do we move? Role players coming back: Franzen Williams Filppula Cleary This is a great problem to have but I really want to see Miller and Eaves here for awhile. Players like May and Newbury can go as I feel solid PKer's and defensive minded players who can put the puck in net should stay. That'd help relieve a lot of pressure off Pasha and Hank on the PK. And Eaves has really found his groove here. Miller has been absolutely solid without even a hiccup. Then again, Eaves and Miller might have (mid to late round) trade value. What are your thoughts? I really don't think Franzen is going anywhere. I've heard that we're interested in Halak, which makes sense. So maybe there will be some kind of package deal in order to get Halak. We'll probably have to give up atleast one decent roster player for Halak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 I really don't think Franzen is going anywhere. I've heard that we're interested in Halak, which makes sense. So maybe there will be some kind of package deal in order to get Halak. We'll probably have to give up atleast one decent roster player for Halak.We have no need for Halak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 968 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 The only thing I want to see for sure is Bertuzzi and Franzen on the same line. They have the potential to absolutely dominate. I was thinking the same thing! Holmer-Dats-Z Bert-Flip-Franzen Cleary-Helm-Eaves miller-Drapes-Williams/Malts/may Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) I was thinking the same thing! Holmer-Dats-Z Bert-Flip-Franzen Cleary-Helm-Eaves miller-Drapes-Williams/Malts/may Bert-Zetter-Franzen (the power line) Cleary-Dats-Holmer (one unbelievable skilled playmaker and 2 crashers) Miller-Flip-Willy / Leino (this is as good as most 2nd lines around the league) Drapes-Helm-Eaves (pure energy and speed with that can score; would be a 3rd line on any other team) Edited December 16, 2009 by Miller Brew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Bert-Zetter-Franzen (the power line) Cleary-Dats-Holmer (one unbelievable skilled playmaker and 2 crashers) Miller-Flip-Willy / Leino (this is as good as most 2nd lines around the league) Drapes-Helm-Eaves (pure energy and speed with that can score; would be a 3rd line on any other team) IMO Datsyuk has to have a skilled scorer on the wing. There are two realistic options: Franzen and Zetterberg. Cleary will never be that guy. Bertuzzi or Leino can be alternative choices if their game really improve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Bert-Zetter-Franzen (the power line) Cleary-Dats-Holmer (one unbelievable skilled playmaker and 2 crashers) Miller-Flip-Willy / Leino (this is as good as most 2nd lines around the league) Drapes-Helm-Eaves (pure energy and speed with that can score; would be a 3rd line on any other team) I really like the idea of your power line. I've always made it a strict rule for myself to never put Cleary and Homer on the same line but if Homer's role is to be the shooter on that line then I guess it's not so bad. I have a feeling I'm in the minority on this one but I actually think Homer has a better shot than Cleary. At the same time, I think it's best if the Helm-Eaves pairing gets third line minutes. I really like what they do out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 IMO Datsyuk has to have a skilled scorer on the wing. There are two realistic options: Franzen and Zetterberg. Cleary will never be that guy. Bertuzzi or Leino can be alternative choices if their game really improve. One thing is for certain. A healthy Wings team is f'ing DEEP! I can't wait to see a healthy roster again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowknife Redwing 57 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Miller-Flip-Willy / Leino (this is as good as most 2nd lines around the league) I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I think you're letting your homerism blind you a little on this point. I challenge you to find me a 2nd line from more than 1 or 2 teams that this line would stack up against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I think you're letting your homerism blind you a little on this point. I challenge you to find me a 2nd line from more than 1 or 2 teams that this line would stack up against. Williams, Flip and Leino had great chemistry together (as Babcock praised this line as the "best" on the team before injuries). I do have high hopes for Miller. So I'll give ya that, my homerism is hoping to see Miller play like a 2nd line winger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) um i like abs miller and eaves i dont care for leino or may i like this Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary Helm-Filppula-Eaves Draper-Abdelkader-Miller but babs will probably have Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary leino-Filppula-williams Draper-helm-eaves so abs and miller will be gone maltby will probably work in Edited December 16, 2009 by brett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted December 16, 2009 time for some Jake Ryan lines Helm - Datsyuk - Miller Zetterberg - Filppula - May Draper - Leino - Cleary Williams - Eaves - Franzen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary Leino-Filppula-Williams Miller/Draper-Helm-Eaves Maltby/Meech reserved. Only thing I'm struggling with is how much Holland and Babcock think May is effective working in our lineups some nights for certain matchups. If they think his presence and fighting ability is benefitting our players from not being pushed around, then I guess I see Miller leaving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Maltby over Miller just because. It totally would not suprise me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 I was thinking the same thing! Holmer-Dats-Z Bert-Flip-Franzen Cleary-Helm-Eaves miller-Drapes-Williams/Malts/may They are not going to put Dats and Z together... It is pointless, and they have showed us, once again, that it would be pointless... Hank and Z do not produce enough together to waist having 2 great centers on one line... They way they have been playing split up has been much more effective. Bert-Zetterberg-Cleary Homer-Datsyuk-Franzen Leino-Filppula-Williams Draper-Helm-Eaves/miller/may/matlby that is a top 3 lineup with the best 4th line in the league, hands down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j.hoop 64 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 i agree miller and eaves must stay, too much heart to lose them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Ryan 1 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Cleary-Zetterberg-Franzen Datsyuk-Helm-Bertuzzi Williams-Filppula-Abdelkader Eaves-Draper-Holmstrom Lidstrom-Ericsson Rafalski-Stuart Kronwall-Lebda Osgood Howard That's how I'd do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) Cleary-Zetterberg-Franzen Datsyuk-Helm-Bertuzzi Williams-Filppula-Abdelkader Eaves-Draper-Holmstrom Lidstrom-Ericsson Rafalski-Stuart Kronwall-Lebda Osgood Howard That's how I'd do it. Clueless... Why give helm 2nd line center minutes when he can't finish or pass very good? Why filppula as you 3rd center? Why give kronwall teams 2nd best defenseman 3rd Dpair minutes? Why give turnovermachine-ericsson 1stpair minutes? Edited December 17, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Clueless... Why give helm 2nd line center minutes when he can't finish or pass very good? Why filppula as you 3rd center? Why give kronwall teams 2nd best defenseman 3rd Dpair minutes? Why give turnovermachine-ericsson 1stpair minutes? You know someone's talking nonsense when even mindfly is calling him clueless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Cleary-Zetterberg-Franzen Datsyuk-Helm-Bertuzzi Williams-Filppula-Abdelkader Eaves-Draper-Holmstrom Lidstrom-Ericsson Rafalski-Stuart Kronwall-Lebda Osgood Howard That's how I'd do it. hahah, you are entertaining Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted December 17, 2009 jake can't even do his best jake anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Here's your perfect solution: I lol'd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 968 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) They are not going to put Dats and Z together... It is pointless, and they have showed us, once again, that it would be pointless... Hank and Z do not produce enough together to waist having 2 great centers on one line... They way they have been playing split up has been much more effective. Bert-Zetterberg-Cleary Homer-Datsyuk-Franzen Leino-Filppula-Williams Draper-Helm-Eaves/miller/may/matlby that is a top 3 lineup with the best 4th line in the league, hands down yes you are probably right, though someone on here brought up a Bert-Franzen combo...I likey! Bertuzzi•Datsyuk•Franzen Filppula•Zetterberg•Cleary/Leino Miller•Williams•Holmstrom/Cleary Draper•Helm•Eaves Edited December 17, 2009 by 13dangledangle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Get rid of Leino and keep Miller and Eaves. Those guys actually battle. I'd give Leino another shot with Flip before I'd send him out on a rail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
