Leino to Flyers for Tollefsen and a 5th Rounder

[titanium2 867]

It's too bad. Though they did need the cap space.

[titanium2 867]

Can't wait to see who goes between Lebda and Meech. Or at least I hope it's one of those two.

[Shaman 713]

Can't wait to see who goes between Lebda and Meech. Or at least I hope it's one of those two.

I definitely am hoping they are both on the way out.

[hockeybill 1]

Just caught this on the CBC website.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2010...yers-trade.html

[rage 24]

Only thing that surprises me is that we just signed him. Oh well. I am sure there are more moves ahead. I hope they keep Meech.

[esteef 2,679]

BYE BYE Floater!!

esteef

[redwingfan19 293]

so if tolly clears, and goes to GR and lilja is not ready, does tolly have to go through re-entry waivers and could get claimed if he gets called up?

i'd really like to see this guy get a chance. He could be a tougher version of lilja

[Shaman 713]

This is a horrible move, the wings should have gotten a whole lot more for him, atleast a 3rd. As for the D-man we got, 3 things

1. He won't make the wings any tougher if hes playing in grand rapids

2. The wings already have a log jam in Defense.

3. Hes nothing we don't already have, a pylon.

[wingsdiehard13 33]

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63034

Edit: Nevermind, the thread was merged.

Edited February 6, 2010 by wingsdiehard13

[AtomicPunk 296]

Merely a trade of convenience. We wanted to get out of Leino (cause he was a stiff) but couldn't send him down, they wanted to get out of their bad contract, we did both, cleared the space needed and Kenny got a little extra for his trouble. Nice move.

[CanadaBoy 151]

All the best Leino, hope you can succeed in another organization.

[brett 1,029]

i am going to be super pissed off if leino does any better with the flyers

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

This is a horrible move, the wings should have gotten a whole lot more for him, atleast a 3rd.

Based on what?

As for the D-man we got, 3 things

1. He won't make the wings any tougher if hes playing in grand rapids

2. The wings already have a log jam in Defense.

3. Hes nothing we don't already have, a pylon.

The player is inconsequential. The trade was for cap space, whoever came back the other way wasn't going to see any play time regardless.

[CMatt89 63]

good trade. got a cheap, big dman that we'll never see and we got rid of an offensive talent that remains to be seen. Some players just dont excell in the Wings system. Robert Lang went from leading scorer to lazy and sucks...back to a decent 2nd line center after departure. Some guys just don't work out here. Glad we got wasted cap space gone..now on to Meech.

[kook_10 1,705]

i am going to be super pissed off if leino does any better with the flyers

well, be prepared for more disappointment because he can't do any worse.

[rage 24]

This is a horrible move, the wings should have gotten a whole lot more for him, atleast a 3rd. As for the D-man we got, 3 things

1. He won't make the wings any tougher if hes playing in grand rapids

2. The wings already have a log jam in Defense.

3. Hes nothing we don't already have, a pylon.

And they don't on forward??

[Finnish Wing 110]

Holland was ok getting only that draft pick in the trade, but Flyers wanted to get rid of Tollefsen. Tollefsen will be waived.

[uk_redwing 495]

Well, that's all that matters in a guy, right?

I'm going to spend this entire thread lauding Kenny Holland for this move.

What a terrific GM he is. I'm very positive about this deal. Great job.

I did a dance when I saw this trade. An actual desk chair dance.

Grand Rapids are already a very tough little team...this will just make them tougher. If TKO (thats his name now) can stay free of injuries and get a good run of play going theres no reason he cant be the 6th/7th Dman in Detroit.

[Majsheppard 203]

This is a horrible move, the wings should have gotten a whole lot more for him, atleast a 3rd. As for the D-man we got, 3 things

1. He won't make the wings any tougher if hes playing in grand rapids

2. The wings already have a log jam in Defense.

3. Hes nothing we don't already have, a pylon.

First point, you could look at it the other way. If no one made an offer but the Flyers, and you turned it down, then the Wings wouldn't get anything for waiving Leino.

As for your points with the defenseman we got back... Don't even think of him as being a part of our team. He may be picked up off waviers, and the whole point of this is to get rid of salary.

[Majsheppard 203]

Can't wait to see who goes between Lebda and Meech. Or at least I hope it's one of those two.

I am starting to think, it could be both of them. Janik may have proven himself to be more trustworthy then Lebda and Meech. Tollefsen could be the depth defenseman that allows them to push them both out the door.

[titanium2 867]

I am starting to think, it could be both of them. Janik may have proven himself to be more trustworthy then Lebda and Meech. Tollefsen could be the depth defenseman that allows them to push them both out the door.

Watched Lilja for a little bit yesterday. He got some blocked shots on the PK. It was nice to watch. If both of those two were gone I would think that Janik would be their 7th defenseman. I don't know about TKO or whoever.

Nick-Rafi

Kronner-Stewie

Jonny-Lils

Dougie

[EuroTwin 240]

Wow, didn't really expect to see this when I woke up this morning.

Good luck Leino.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

This is a horrible move, the wings should have gotten a whole lot more for him, atleast a 3rd. As for the D-man we got, 3 things

1. He won't make the wings any tougher if hes playing in grand rapids

2. The wings already have a log jam in Defense.

3. Hes nothing we don't already have, a pylon.

Dude, the Thrashers just traded one of the best offensive players in the last decade for nobodies.

Leino is a worthless player, and we got a guy in return who can actually do something right, unlike Leino.

Quit your whining and support your GM. He's smarter than you are you know. I just hate these posters who whine about every little thing Holland does or does not do.

[dragonballgtz 273]

So who will be the bottom pair when everyone is healthy?

Ericsson-Lilja?

Lilja-Janik?

Ericsson-Janik?

Lebda-Lilja?

Uhm

hopefully Babs will get smart and change up the D pairs. I would like

Lid-Ericsson

Raf-Kronwall

Stuart-Lilja

Minutes played would be on who is playing the best. Not really based upon being called the "3rd pair."

Why do people think we could of gotten more for Leino after his own comments in the press? He pretty much gave an insight on his work ethic when he does not think he has to battle for pucks. A 5th round pick for him is a good trade and way better then letting him go for nothing.

Now the next major questions for the Red Wings are is Lilja coming back and who is next in leaving us?

[elriqo28 2]

Leino gone..awesome

THIS