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Could Williams be the one traded by Friday?

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Would they really trade Williams again? Williams' biggest problem this season was getting hurt. Williams has some offensive upside and can play the point on the PP. What can Lebda do?

The cap is really starting to bite and hard. Lilja better be the defenseman that he was before he got hurt. The Wings are having to do an awful lot to insert him back in the lineup.

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It's unrealistic to expect Lilja to be the defenseman he was before he got hurt. Yeah we have to give up some guys to put him back on the team, but I'd rather give up guys than have the possibility of losing Lilja. While we'd all love to be in the playoffs this year, management also has to make moves that is going to make us competitive next year and I think this is one of those moves.

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Williams should not be traded... he is good in the power play and moreoverwe have 3 defensemen that can be traded (Meech, Ericcson, Lebda ...)

Holland will never give away another forward...

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You know, at this point, I really don't care who gets shipped off. Seriously, don't care. Something just needs to be done. This team is just BADLY in need of a shake up, as our current lineup is just seriously not meshing well at all.

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I think Meech played just as well as Lebs, if not better. Lebda should be out, and I think a bigger deal will be done then just giving up Williams.

I very rarely question Holland and co, but if they keep Lebda and trade Meech (unless some team gives some insane price for him - HIGHLY unlikely) - They are idiots. simple as that.

Meech has HANDS down outplayed Lebda, just watch last nights game...

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Williams isnt putting up the numbers...injuries or not. When everyones healthy, he would be my favourite to be a healthy scratch along with May. No point paying a guy $1.5m to sit in the pressbox.

I thought you liked "enforcers" =P

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You know, at this point, I really don't care who gets shipped off. Seriously, don't care. Something just needs to be done. This team is just BADLY in need of a shake up, as our current lineup is just seriously not meshing well at all.

i've been trying like hell to keep my zen-like calm throughout this season, but its finally shattered and i think i agree with you....whoever/whatever...but SOMETHING has to change! i say this not from a place of panic, but rather from the basic ability to use my eyes and ears and comprehend the input.

that being said, those zany cats from "the obstructed view" seem to've pinpointed the root cause. a drunken lebda dropping lord stanley's cup at cheli's chilli back in summer '08. now, i know that "logically", that can't be why our defense is skating like they're on quaaludes, or why flipper can have 14 shots in a game and not score...."logically" those are unrelated.

i ask you....have the hockey gods ever shown signs of being logical?

so yeah....ship off whoever, shake things up! but can we pleasepleaseplease start with lebda? at this point, i'm not above losing whatever trade value he might have in favor of a hockeyplayer sacrifice to the gods...

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No one wants Williams as a rental. I was reading NHL.com's article after last night's game and in it, they quoted Kenny as saying that our trade deadline acquisitions will be Franzen and Lilja. I don't think we'll be looking to make any real moves, so the waiving/dumping off of Lebda, May, and perhaps Meech is a lot more likely.

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Lebda is a UFA and May is an old enforcer that made the team on a pro tryout... waive/trade those two

Williams and Meech both have more to offer us...keep Meech as the 7th dman and keep Williams on the 4th line and on the 2nd PP

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I can't see them trading Williams.

Fully healthy that would mean:

#1 Maltby or May in the line-up every day

#2 a possible breaking up of the Draper-Helm-Eaves line...

I like

Franzen-Datsyuk-Homer

Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary

Miller-Filppula-Williams

Draper-Helm-Eaves

Maltby

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I doubt May will be claimed if we send him down. This hurts to type, but he is the best bet to send down. Lebda is trade material if we don't ask too much.

Unless I am mistaken, this should put us where we have to be as far as cap goes.

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I can't see them trading Williams.

Fully healthy that would mean:

#1 Maltby or May in the line-up every day

#2 a possible breaking up of the Draper-Helm-Eaves line...

I like

Franzen-Datsyuk-Homer

Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary

Miller-Filppula-Williams

Draper-Helm-Eaves

Maltby

You like 2 underachieving forwards and Cleary on our second line?

I'd like them to get rid of Lebda or Meech and May instead of get rid of Williams.

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Meech is starting to grow on me. Early in the season he was brutal but he's stepped up his game and really made a case for him being better than Lebda and thus the one that should stay. We all know Lebda won't ever get any better, but Meech just might improve a bit to be a reliable 6th or 7th defense man.

But I do see Williams being traded. Everyone talks about him being good on the powerplay, but our powerplay sucks. Everyone talks about him scoring, but he isn't scoring. He's in a slump just like everybody else and since he's always been widely considered useless, he's a goner if we can get anything for him. They will not, however, give Williams up for nothing just to clear space. After all, he might still start scoring again and we can't afford to lose that.

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I don't understand why people would trade for Williams? Nobody made him an offer over the summer...no one. Why now, for some reason, would other GMs want him? It's not like he's had a stellar year, he's barely played.

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I do. I would put May in the line up when we play tougher opposition instead of Maltby. Personally I think Ericsson would be able to handle most of the "pests."

I like May, and he earns his money but I can't see putting him in over Maltby in almost any situation. Malts more than proved his worth last night on the PK. No, he's not a fighter but he skates better than May; and even when he's not on the PK, he harrasses and throws off the rhythm of opponents. He really defines "role player".

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Williams isnt putting up the numbers...injuries or not. When everyones healthy, he would be my favourite to be a healthy scratch along with May. No point paying a guy $1.5m to sit in the pressbox.

Well, he did have a broken leg for half the season which probably has contributed to him not "putting up the number", I would think... plus, we need all the offensive help we can get. Trading Williams would only hurt our depth and ability to score. We can't really trade Williams for anything anyway because we would be getting rid of him to comply with the cap... so I see them trading or waiving either Meech or Lebda, preferably Lebda, and May.

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I am so not understanding this. We had so many of our top players on injured reserve ... didn't that bank any cap relief? Why do we have to ship off an active guy on our roster to give us some breathing room?

At the rate we are going, why don't we do the Ray Bourque noble thing and ask Lidstrom if he wants to go to a contender to try to win one more cup ... Chicago, San Jose with Todd, Washington?

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I'm not a Willy fan at all, the guy is too soft to be of any value. If he were traded it would make no difference.

I'm so sick of seeing these little D men getting cycled to death in our own zone. They get hemmed in, get gassed, crawl back to the bench. WTF is the point? Every time it forces the forwards to come down deep to get the puck out so they never get to play any offense. That's why the shots against are so high. Game after game all year long it's the same thing. Cycled into oblivion in our end, get a change, repeat. They're not any better at moving the puck than big players anyway. It's B.S

Please Kenny say goodbye to them. I'd move Lebda and Meech and waive May. Lilja, Janik, Tole, anyone that is not 5'1" would be better served to stop the cycle and get the puck out in a timely fashion.I can't believe our front office guys can't see whats going on.

If only they had the balls to move Rafalski, he's a 6 million dollar Meech, pointless. A 9th place finish would be the worst thing to happen to this franchise IMO. It wouldn't spur enough change and we'd be looking at another 6-9 place finish next year.

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