Fifey 3 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Because if he was rockin' the Winged Wheel we would love him to death. SO not true. When the Wings sign/trade for people I don't like, I still don't like them. In fact, even though Brett Hull signed with the Wings and won the Cup in 02, I still hated him and booed when he hoisted the Cup. When Bertuzzi was here the first time, I retained my dislike of him. Because the players I hate, I hate them for actual reasons, not just because they play on a certain team (unless we're talking about the 90's Avs, in which case I hated some of them only for the logo on the jersey). I hate Crosby because he acts like a DICK. The penalty he took in today's game and the entire shift he had leading up to it are plenty enough for me to never want him on my team ever. If he was a Wing from the start of his career, MAYBE I'd like him, because he would have been around better role models and had his ego and immaturity held in check. But if he magically were traded here? I'd stop watching. He's NOT the kind of player I would ever cheer for, even if he'd guarantee the Wings the Cup every year. I'd rather cheer for people like Pavel Datsyuk, Nick Lidstrom and Dan Cleary and never win the Cup again then EVER accept Crosby as a Wing. And as for the premise of this thread, I agree. He's been the focus ALL day, despite the fact that there are better stories out there. Not to mention the fact that his ****** should have disqualified him from playing in the Men's tournament to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 In fact, even though Brett Hull signed with the Wings and won the Cup in 02, I still hated him and booed when he hoisted the Cup. What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fifey 3 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 What? My family's from Buffalo originally, so we're still bitter about the No Goal from the 99 Finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Nobody complains about him because they're jealous of his talent or upset that he won the Cup last year against the Wings. Nobody likes him because he's a whiny little brat, a poor sport, and a poor choice for the "face" of the NHL. I actually wouldn't mind at all if the media focused all of its attention on Ovechkin, the same way they do with Crosby. At least with Ovie you can tell how much he loves the game, and doesn't throw little hissy fits. When he gets mad he just runs people the f*** over. I'm sick of hearing the "but he's the greatest player..." arguments because it doesn't matter how much talent you have when your attitude is just plain awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Get ready to be flamed dude. But I agree. This is the Olympics for crying out loud, they ahve any number of players they could hype up and they keep choosing Crosby. They keep forcing him down the throats of people who don't want to hear about him. Ovechkin would make more sense. Hell, you know what else would? Selling us players who are exciting and don't get any credit marketing wise. Like half of the players in the Olympics. Look at the NFL. They make sure we know about half of the league, not just one or two players. What is this you speak of? I have never heard of such a thing. The only player in the NHL I have ever heard being talked about is Crosby, but I think you might be on to something here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY'sguy 1 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Did the Ducks beat us to win the Stanley Cup in 2007? Does that make it more classy? Edited February 17, 2010 by StevieY'sguy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Say all you want people, but when it comes down to it all we hear about is Crosby. There have to be 30 different players that could be the face of the NHL, but no. We have to deal with this little ***** that has yet to grow in to a mature hockey player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Bettman still doesn't realize that his relentless promotion of such a big whiner has made a just about every fan of any team not named the Penguins detest Crosby and despise the constant focus the NHL puts on him. Apparently NBC is unaware of this as well. I hate Crosby because he acts like a DICK. The penalty he took in today's game and the entire shift he had leading up to it are plenty enough for me to never want him on my team ever. If he was a Wing from the start of his career, MAYBE I'd like him, because he would have been around better role models and had his ego and immaturity held in check. But if he magically were traded here? I'd stop watching. He's NOT the kind of player I would ever cheer for, even if he'd guarantee the Wings the Cup every year. I'd rather cheer for people like Pavel Datsyuk, Nick Lidstrom and Dan Cleary and never win the Cup again then EVER accept Crosby as a Wing. I give it maybe 24 hours before somebody comes to this thread and says something along the lines of "Oh, shut up, you KNOW you'd take Crosby if he were available", as if they know more about your feelings on the matter than you do. Edited February 17, 2010 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Say all you want people, but when it comes down to it all we hear about is Crosby. There have to be 30 different players that could be the face of the NHL, but no. We have to deal with this little ***** that has yet to grow in to a mature hockey player. There shouldn't HAVE to be 30 players marketed just because there are 30 teams. If a team doesn't have a player that can be easily marketed then they shouldn't just to give every team the attention. Ovechkin, Crosby, Thornton+Heatley, Gaborik, Luongo, Getzlaf, Datsyuk, etc. are some of the players who should be marketed more (NHL is getting progressively better) but not every team. The attention on Crosby creates probably 80% of the disdain for him (I like to see him fail for that reason) and I think if it was spread around more the casual fan would know more than one or two players who play hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest zackmorris Report post Posted February 17, 2010 What is this you speak of? I have never heard of such a thing. The only player in the NHL I have ever heard being talked about is Crosby, but I think you might be on to something here... lmao exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Bettman came from the NBA where he was second fiddle to Stern where he cut his chops. The NBA went through a crisis of sorts during the post Magic/Bird/Dr. J era. And what was the solution? Market the hell out of the best talent of in the league otherwise known as MJ. Now it helped that MJ was legitimately the best player in the world and spoke english as his first language. Flash forward to 92/93 when Gretzky landed in LA and the hype and excitement that caused and the resultant opening of hockey to markets that were never inclined to the sport up to then. He was the face of the NHL to people that never were exposed to the game. Now we are in 2010 and the league is stagnant, if not on the decline, and as repulsive and obnoxious as it is, pushing Crosby as the face of the NHL is the horse they picked. And it makes sense using the calculus of marketing in America. How else are they gonna sell the game without a face to attach to it? It can't be more than a few, because the American public won't digest numbers more than 2 or 3. It's the same marketing concept around all the craptastic olympic coverage we get from NBC. Sports marketing is a real problem when considered from the perspective of generating solid advertising revenue through the desired demographics. Unfortunately for the NHL Crosby is no Jordan, but though I think Ovie would be a much more dynamic and exciting front-man, that won't wash in Canada, though I think it would in the US. We like the story of the "pick yourself up by the bootstraps" kind of guy that Ovie apparently is. Unlike the story of another whiny spoiled man-child North American athlete. Edited February 17, 2010 by clutchngrab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 if there was a fantasy draft in the NHL tomorrow every player available starting teams over i would never take crosby first. I would take ovie,datsyuk,thornton all guys that are better both ways and don't ***** as soon as someone looks at them. Ya he has skill but he has no heart and a bad attitude. Now im Canadian and as much i want Canada to win gold at the olympics i want them to lose so i can see his face. Seeing show after show about how this is his first time at the olympics and theres no player who wants it more then him it makes me sick to see his face to hear his voice. I havent hated someone this much since Claude Lemiuex. I still have nightmares over last years finals seeing the NHL hand them the cup and watching this coward sit out the last part of the 3rd with the cup on the line, 0 heart, i remember shanahan playing when the wings won the cup with a broken foot and after every period he was getting a needle to numb the pain. I am actually embarassed to have this guy as a Canadian he is the complete opposite of the Canadian stereotype tough, hard working, doesn't whine hockey player and is almost exactly how north americans described the russians crys about everytime there touched and has no heart. Canada v. Norway tonight about 4 mins in there was a icing on Canada and after the whistle Crosby ( god i even hate typing his name ) got bumped and instantly started bitching to the refs, i then found myself along with some friends yelling at my TV stoping your ******* crying and play the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel Hossyukstrom 2 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 if there was a fantasy draft in the NHL tomorrow every player available starting teams over i would never take crosby first. I would take ovie,datsyuk,thornton all guys that are better both ways and don't ***** as soon as someone looks at them. Ya he has skill but he has no heart and a bad attitude. Now im Canadian and as much i want Canada to win gold at the olympics i want them to lose so i can see his face. Seeing show after show about how this is his first time at the olympics and theres no player who wants it more then him it makes me sick to see his face to hear his voice. I havent hated someone this much since Claude Lemiuex. I still have nightmares over last years finals seeing the NHL hand them the cup and watching this coward sit out the last part of the 3rd with the cup on the line, 0 heart, i remember shanahan playing when the wings won the cup with a broken foot and after every period he was getting a needle to numb the pain. I am actually embarassed to have this guy as a Canadian he is the complete opposite of the Canadian stereotype tough, hard working, doesn't whine hockey player and is almost exactly how north americans described the russians crys about everytime there touched and has no heart. Canada v. Norway tonight about 4 mins in there was a icing on Canada and after the whistle Crosby ( god i even hate typing his name ) got bumped and instantly started bitching to the refs, i then found myself along with some friends yelling at my TV stoping your ******* crying and play the game. Sounds like he had a heavy flow last night between periods. I hoped they cleaned the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Shoot, I thought we were talking about the actor Bing Crosby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest zackmorris Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Canada needs an Olympic caliber player with the last name Stills so we can have a Crosby/Stills/Nash line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted February 17, 2010 While sick of hearing Crosby's name, I am more sick of hearing his name here on LGW. This is not LHC (Let's Hate Crosby). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Canada needs an Olympic caliber player with the last name Stills so we can have a Crosby/Stills/Nash line. Alternate the Staal brothers. Crosby/Staals/Nash. Problem solved, and the night is still Young. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Pierre McGuire on CTV last night said "Sidney is such an artist" like 3 times in a row... haha he's creaming his pants so much during these games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 If he was a Red Wing, he wouldn't be as universally loathed as he is, because there's no way in hell that Babs, Nick, Kenny or anyone else would tolerate his juvenile bulls*** for much more than 5.6 nanoseconds. So yeah, we'd probably end up liking him because he wouldn't be a ******. Didn't we witness that yesterday with Babs giving Crosby a talking-to since he was being a spoiled brat on the ice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevieisthebest 80 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 if there was a fantasy draft in the NHL tomorrow every player available starting teams over i would never take crosby first. I would take ovie,datsyuk,thornton all guys that are better both ways and don't ***** as soon as someone looks at them. Ya he has skill but he has no heart and a bad attitude. Now im Canadian and as much i want Canada to win gold at the olympics i want them to lose so i can see his face. Seeing show after show about how this is his first time at the olympics and theres no player who wants it more then him it makes me sick to see his face to hear his voice. I havent hated someone this much since Claude Lemiuex. I still have nightmares over last years finals seeing the NHL hand them the cup and watching this coward sit out the last part of the 3rd with the cup on the line, 0 heart, i remember shanahan playing when the wings won the cup with a broken foot and after every period he was getting a needle to numb the pain. I am actually embarassed to have this guy as a Canadian he is the complete opposite of the Canadian stereotype tough, hard working, doesn't whine hockey player and is almost exactly how north americans described the russians crys about everytime there touched and has no heart. Canada v. Norway tonight about 4 mins in there was a icing on Canada and after the whistle Crosby ( god i even hate typing his name ) got bumped and instantly started bitching to the refs, i then found myself along with some friends yelling at my TV stoping your ******* crying and play the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Am I the only one that doesn't quite understand this "face of the NHL" thing? Everyone talks about it like it's a fact and he's listed as such. I doesn't understand it at all, because I don't see anyone really being the face of the league. Maybe it's different in the US than here in Canada, but from a media perspective, I don't see more mention of Crosby than other players, in fact, I see a lot more of Ovechkin than I do of Crosby. Take yesterday as a clear example. Just before the start of the Canada game, yes, you would have saw stuff on Crosby, but also on several other players. The Russia game, they mentioned, coming up, would be Ovechkin and the rest of team Russia against Latvia and then after the commercial, they show a quick video of him and no mention or even photos of anyone else on the team. Fast forward to this morning and reading the game recaps. On TSN, the headline from the Canada game was something like: Opening Salvo and the rest of the recap mentions chemistry and Crosby's line, along with a few of the other lines, etc., but makes no mention at of Crosby's 3 assists, didn't even mention that he had any points. The Russia game recap on the other hand, the headline was "Ovechkin scores twice....blah, blah" - this, while 4 or 5 other teammates also had 2 points in the game and another guy on the team also had 2 goals. Not sure I'm seeing how Crosby is shoved down people's throats anymore than someone like Ovechkin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Take yesterday as a clear example. Just before the start of the Canada game, yes, you would have saw stuff on Crosby, but also on several other players. The Russia game, they mentioned, coming up, would be Ovechkin and the rest of team Russia against Latvia and then after the commercial, they show a quick video of him and no mention or even photos of anyone else on the team. <snip snip> Not sure I'm seeing how Crosby is shoved down people's throats anymore than someone like Ovechkin. Take yesterday's USA/Switzerland game as an example, then. In between the 1st and 2nd periods, they did an interview featurette on, you guessed it, Crosby. A player who has absolutely nothing to do with either of the teams playing. Why not, say, Ryan Miller? That might make too much sense, I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Yay, another Crosby thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 I was hoping the boat-load of unbelievable talent on display in these Olympics would take the focus of Crosby a bit. Not so. If I didn't know any better I would have thought Crosby was playing with a team full of AHLers yesterday, because obviously the other players weren't worth mentioning other than the passing remark like "[player other than Crosby] scores... CROSBY IS ON THE BENCH, WHAT AN ARTIST WITH THE WATERBOTTLE DID YOU SEE THAT OH MY GOD THAT'S AMAZING WHAT WILL HE DO NEXT" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lidstrom for life 20 Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Not sure I'm seeing how Crosby is shoved down people's throats anymore than someone like Ovechkin. Last night on NBC they showed a video on Ovechkin highlighting how intense and outwardly emotional he is with his goal celebrations etc. After the video NBC moron #1 asked NBC moron #2 what other player he would compare to Ovechkin in that regard, without hesitation #2 said "CROSBY!" Then Jeremy Roenick (yes Jeremy freaking Roenick was the voice of reason here) tried to point out that that response made no sense because Crosby isn't known for that all and #2 just rambles on about how Crosby in beating Ovechkin 1-0 in stanley cups and thats all that matters and therefore Crosby is superior. I think my point is that NBC acts like they are the only two hockey players in the world. In that example he could have picked any current or former player from the NHL and he goes with Crosby. IMO they talk about both of them way too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites