Guest Grayne Wetzky Report post Posted April 25, 2011 I'd like to see the Wings be a little more aggressive and wrap this guy up at less per year, but a longer term. If the Wings can get Lidstrom down to about 5 mil per and Rafalski down to about 3.5 - 4 mil per, they could go after another good forward. Do you think they could do this if the contracts offered were 3 to 5 years instead of one year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted April 25, 2011 One year deals only my friend. If he retires with a long term deal we'd eat that cap space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 25, 2011 One year deals only my friend. If he retires with a long term deal we'd eat that cap space. Exactly. Besides, didn't Holland already say he'd be offering one year contracts for Lidstrom as many years as he wants to play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted April 25, 2011 This idea sounds better than it actually is. Lidstrom is amazing, dont get me wrong, but I don't want Lidstrom at a 5 million dollar cap hit when he is 45, unless he plays on a one year deal every year until then and continues to play at or near his current level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 You may expect Lidstrom and Rafalski to play a few more years, But all I have to say about offering multi-year deals for a player over 35 whose cap hit doesn't go away: Brett Hull in Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 Lidstrom doesn't even know whether he wants to play more than one year. I don't think either side would be okay with a longer term contract at this point. 1yr/contract is ideal for both sides. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 122 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 I Agree with all here...If Nick wants to sign a one year deal 3 or 4 more times... I am good with that. It's not like he will play for anyone else.. He's a Wing for life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stinky fish taco Report post Posted April 26, 2011 5 years are you high on PCP? 7 redwingcapt, Klunzo, sleepwalker and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyrme19 73 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 What constitutes as a long term deal? Just anything over 1 year? Cus thats bull. Should be at least 3. What hit did hull give the coyotes and for how long? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 whats wrong with a 1 year deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 Lidstrom won't sign anything longer than one year, so the argument is moot. He's repeatedly stated in interviews when asked that he will only go year to year. No multi-year contracts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 26, 2011 are you high on PCP? I think it more likely that he's simply unaware of the cap rules. 2 Grim and Klunzo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 I'd be really, really cautious about handing out long-term deals to anyone over 35, let alone 40. Also, you have to be prepared for the possibility that, if the Wings win the Cup, both Lidstrom AND Rafalski could hang up the blades... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 oh yay, someone's been drinking... a lot... 1 Klunzo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 We win the Cup and I think Lids retires. What else is there? Imagine winning the Cup and the Norris and retiring on that note? Amazing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grwingfan 21 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 I would offer him a 2 year deal at $6m per year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 Like everyone said, his 1 year deals are perfet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 Lidstrom won't sign anything longer than a one year deal, however in regards to your want to ad a forward, even if the Wings bring back Lidstrom at 6.2 million next year with the projected cap increase they should have plenty of money to go sign another really good D-man or Forward, or they could split it up and ad an okay version of each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 As others have said, there's no way that Lids comes back on anything other than a one year deal even if he comes back at all after winning the Cup, Conn Smythe, & Norris this year. Now what I'm really looking forward to is all the whining when he does come back but doesn't take as much of a hometown discount as some people here want him to. That would never happen though, would it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 I don't think a Cup seals the deal for him retiring. Pure love for the game and the ability to obviously still be a finalist, and possible winner of the Norris trophy proves he can just simply get it done. Nick is in tip-top shape and has the best overall shot from the point to this day. We will see but I don't think he is done for at least another 3 years or so. 2 LeftWinger and Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Off the Post 11 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 If he does indeed come back, im really hoping he takes a discount to help us sign players..thats all i ask! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 I don't think Lidstrom would let Holland or the Wings sign him for longer than a 1 year deal at this stage in his life. He wouldn't want to retire 1 year into a 2-3 year deal and hurt them when it comes to cap space. The respect that the Wings have shown Lidstrom has been returned just as much if not more by Lidstrom himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 If he does indeed come back, im really hoping he takes a discount to help us sign players..thats all i ask! He has been taking a discount for the past half decade for us. There are 8 defensmen that have a higher cap hit than him right now and 10 players who have a higher salary this year than him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 I'd like to see the Wings be a little more aggressive and wrap this guy up at less per year, but a longer term. If the Wings can get Lidstrom down to about 5 mil per and Rafalski down to about 3.5 - 4 mil per, they could go after another good forward. Do you think they could do this if the contracts offered were 3 to 5 years instead of one year? One year deals only my friend. If he retires with a long term deal we'd eat that cap space. What he said. The over 35 year old rule would eat all that cap space if Lids decided to hang em up before his contract ended. Holland can just keep offering him 1 year deals. And honestly I could see Lidstrom's contract getting under 6 million for next season. I know the cap is up, but his ice time is down and will likely continue to come down a little next season. Though I guess that would put him making less than Rafalki. And if he wins another Norris, it might be hard to negotiate him down under 6. Hmm.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucks 66 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 I'd like to see the Wings be a little more aggressive and wrap this guy up at less per year, but a longer term. If the Wings can get Lidstrom down to about 5 mil per and Rafalski down to about 3.5 - 4 mil per, they could go after another good forward. Do you think they could do this if the contracts offered were 3 to 5 years instead of one year? Ummm.....wait, what? This cannot be serious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
