jfranzen 51 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 ^ Lost Defense isn't worth the gained offense there. We need Stuart for a cup run. I'd love Selanne though. Also, signing Bertuzzi seems like the opposite move he'd do if he was trading for a top 6 forward. I certainly don't see a correlation. But I hope you're right anyway (to OP). As much as I agree with you, I think Quincey was more of a replacement move than an upgrade move. I hope you're right though. selling the farm would be giving up smith, nyquist or tatar. kindl is expendable and stuart is going back to california regardless after this season. selanne automatically makes the wings cup favorites, especially with like i said, quincey back and smith ready to step up anytime. This. Might as well get something for Stuart than just simply lose him for nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blueliner 69 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Am i missing something? I know the Wings were interested in gettin Quincey back, but as of now they don't have him do they? I think the Wings should offer Franzen in a package for a Nash. Nash hustles more and HITS THE NET! For all those who minus this cause Franzen's currently leading the team with 23 goals i think, if he would hit the net with even 20% of his shots he'd be at about 35 right now. And I thought I was the only that notices that he misses the net every time he shoots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 As much as I agree with you, I think Quincey was more of a replacement move than an upgrade move. I hope you're right though. This. Might as well get something for Stuart than just simply lose him for nothing. They can probably get a late round pick for him after the season. While he is likely to go back to California, one of those teams may be willing to deal a low pick to avoid a bidding war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 And I thought I was the only that notices that he misses the net every time he shoots. i notice a few key traits about players... franzen can't hit the net and lacks hustle often. cleary falls a lot and gives the puck away constantly. kindl is weak at turning when he picks the puck up in the corner and freezes often, leading to giveaways. datsyuk is the s***. joey mac is great at everything but playing the puck. god he's awful at playing the puck... miller is very, very soft. my dad refers to him as marshmiller cause he's soft like marshmallow. and he needs to put wood on the puck when pk'ing to get it ALL the way down the ice. Z needs a back massage. Flip needs to shoot more...like his goal against the hawks...good shot. hudler needs more speed, but he's been really good this year. tuzzi needs to stick to how he's playing and not return to behind the back passes. homer is 1 dimensional and the worst skater in the NHL. helm needs to work on dangling with datsyuk. so...on topic, i would really like to know how much it would take to get Iggy in a Winged Wheel. 3 Z and D for the C, Rick D and unsaddleddonald reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Maybe another trade for a forward, but nothing crazy IMO. As a team that is currently at the top of the NHL standings, I would hope that they wouldn't make sweeping changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopenhagenWing 38 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 And I thought I was the only that notices that he misses the net every time he shoots. Well, so does Hossa, Kane, Selanne, Perry, Giroux, Jagr, St. Louis, Iginla...should I continue? Oh yeah, and the guy some of you want to package Franzen for. 3 BigWillieStyle, 55fan and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopenhagenWing 38 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Living where I do and living with a BJ fan, I take issue with Rick Nash's hustle. He's constantly lackadaisically skating around unless of course there's a scoring chance and then he turns on the jets. Otherwise, it's floating in circles around the ice and an apparent allergy to backchecking. To me, this is what comes to mind when Nash is mentioned. It certainly isn't hustle. 1 Hockeytown Red Wings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Well, so does Hossa, Kane, Selanne, Perry, Giroux, Jagr, St. Louis, Iginla...should I continue? Oh yeah, and the guy some of you want to package Franzen for. there's a substantial difference between missing the net half the time and missing the net about 85% of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 As a team that is currently at the top of the NHL standings, I would hope that they wouldn't make sweeping changes. Agreed. That's all I was saying. But from the talk in this thread you'd think Holland was getting ready to clone and re-activate the KLM line or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Let's sum this up here: -We have 6 grinding forwards (miller, abdelkader, helm, holmstrom, emmerton/mursak/, cleary) -Moen? Gaustad? we already have 6 of those guys...... -5 playmakers (zetterberg, datsyuk, filppula, hudler, bertuzzi) -1 sniper (Franzen - who, like was said, misses the net a lot because he tries to go top shelf with every shot) I SAY: we neeed a sniper. 3 Z Winged Dangler, Rick D and Shaman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 My sources tell me Holland is close to acquiring an important center from the Pens. Link below. Red Wings Rumors 3 JesterRace, Kindl Surprise and wings1110 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 My sources tell me Holland is close to acquiring an important center from the Pens. Link below. Red Wings Rumors Get outta here. We would have to offer up the 2008 Cup....... ......and that would be to just get them talking! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) I SAY: we neeed a sniper. Selanne fits the bill. Unfortunately, Anaheim is only 6 pts from 8th spot and think that they can still make it. They're going to have to decide this week. Edited February 22, 2012 by RedWingsRox 1 jfranzen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Selanne fits the bill. Unfortunately, Anaheim is only 6 pts from 8th spot and think that they can still make it. They're going to have to decide this week. I like it. My only concern (and it is a small one) is that I would like insurance that a 41 year old won't run out of gas for us in a long playoff run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevieisthebest 80 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 I refuse to get my hopes up, only because this seems to happen every year. I love kenny and trust him. The Quincey move was a solid one, and has only made our team better. This team right now is good enough to win the cup. I wouldn't really mind seeing a big name player come in, but at what cost? To me, its not worth messing with the chemistry that this team has for a one year rental sniper. This team can win the cup as is, and the chemistry is great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho613 74 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 I would love to have Nash, but BJs aren't gonna trade him to a central division rival, so that leaves the Wings, Hawks, Preds, and Blues out of the running. He'll probably end up in San Jose, LA, or New York. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim.D 176 Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Selanne said he wants to stay if there's a chance of the Ducks making the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 When I started the thread I was thinking someone midrange....but now I feel like we may be making a run at someone like Selanne, Carter, Nash, Ryan or Suter.I just have a feeling. Not sure what I would want to see coming back this way but just a hunch. At times we have dried up offensively this year...one of these big boys and WOW.....all the way! Anyways glad most of you are thing their is some potential for a significant move....I would really love to spend some of that extra cap money, stick it to SJ and win another cup! 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Read an article suggesting Steve Ott could be on his way out of Dallas. Would that make some noise around here if Ken acquired him. 1 Hockeytown Red Wings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Read an article suggesting Steve Ott could be on his way out of Dallas. Would that make some noise around here if Ken acquired him. I've seen/heard this too. About a week ago I heard from a friend (one of those terrible "my friend knows someone who knows someone" stories, so I didn't care to mention it) that Ott gave a list of teams to Dallas, all close to Windsor. I think it was Detroit, Toronto, Buffalo, etc. and oddly enough, Edmonton. I think he'd be an interesting addition to the 3rd line and give a boost to the PK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 I've seen/heard this too. About a week ago I heard from a friend (one of those terrible "my friend knows someone who knows someone" stories, so I didn't care to mention it) that Ott gave a list of teams to Dallas, all close to Windsor. I think it was Detroit, Toronto, Buffalo, etc. and oddly enough, Edmonton. I think he'd be an interesting addition to the 3rd line and give a boost to the PK. He's still relatively young (Turns 30 in August). 27 points in 54 games. Knows how to walk the line. I'd welcome him here. He's hungry for a Cup. Additionally, we could likely keep him around a while, unlike older guys like Sammy Pahlsson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 There is NO WAY I would want Steve "The Turtle'" Ott wearing a Wings jersey. No thank you. I don't care what intangibles he brings or how hungry he is for a Cup, I would never accept it. Dallas Drake was one thing, but he was an original Detroit draft pick and spent a lot of time in Northern Michigan, and Detroit was also the BIGGEST bunch of ******* I had ever seen on a North American hockey rink the season before, so it was easier for me accept him. But Ott is a piece excrement! 2 Majsheppard and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,558 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) No thanks on Ott, 115 PIM in 54 games, and our penalty kill is terrible. Compare that to Bert (who constantly gets accused of taking s***ty penalties) at 54 PIM in 54 games, or Ericsson (same deal) at 47 PIM in 61 games, or Abby (same deal) at 47 PIM in 61 games...or...nevermind, you get the picture. Ribeiro or Nystrom on the other hand? Yes, please. Edited February 23, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 No thanks on Ott, 115 PIM in 54 games, and our penalty kill is terrible. Compare that to Bert (who constantly gets accused of taking s***ty penalties) at 54 PIM in 54 games, or Ericsson (same deal) at 47 PIM in 61 games, or Abby (same deal) at 47 PIM in 61 games...or...nevermind, you get the picture. Ribeiro or Nystrom on the other hand? Yes, please. Riberio is a bigger piece of thrash than Ott. Ott's pims are skewed a bit, half of his pims he is taking a guy to the box with him so it kinda cancels out a bit. Nonetheless, Ott does take quite a few dumb pims and that is concerning. I would like Nystrom the most out of those 3 however.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,558 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Riberio is a bigger piece of thrash than Ott. Ott's pims are skewed a bit, half of his pims he is taking a guy to the box with him so it kinda cancels out a bit. Nonetheless, Ott does take quite a few dumb pims and that is concerning. I would like Nystrom the most out of those 3 however.. Ott only has 5 fighting majors this year, same as Abby. So I don't know how many offsetting penalties he really gets. Nystrom would fit the best considering we'd like a winger, but Ribeiro has always been hard on the wings, and he produces. If I could get his point production for a second rounder I'd be thrilled, plus he's only topped 50 PIM once in his career. Note: Just checked it out, Ribeiro is under contract for another year at 5 mil...so nevermind. Edited February 23, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites