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Bettman in the building, just like when Weber pulled his turnbuckle mover on Zetterberg. Look on his face says "99.9% of the time" to me. And shocker, non-traditional NHL puppet market gets the better of the call and win the game... hmmm...

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To be honest it looked to me like he didn't leave his feet when he made the hit, but instead launched himself upwards, and into Hossa which IMHO is even worse...Can't wait to see what Shanny the league hands out in the form of punishment.

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Did you watch Hossa's playoffs here in 2009?

Do you happen to remember Datsyuk's first 3 or 4 years in the playoffs? Dreadful. Kinda turned out ok, don't you think?

You are really condemning Hossa for 1 year? Seemed to play pretty damn good when Chicago won.

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Do you happen to remember Datsyuk's first 3 or 4 years in the playoffs? Dreadful. Kinda turned out ok, don't you think?

You are really condemning Hossa for 1 year? Seemed to play pretty damn good when Chicago won.

Wasn't it Dats 1st playoffs in 2002?

Hossa had a bum shoulder while a Red Wing (not trying to make excuses for the guy)...I don't remember how Hossa did in the Finals in 2008?

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Wasn't it Dats 1st playoffs in 2002?

Hossa had a bum shoulder while a Red Wing (not trying to make excuses for the guy)...I don't remember how Hossa did in the Finals in 2008?

Yes, Datsyuk's first playoff was 2002. As he recalled it (paraphrasing) "It was nice, sit on the bench and win cup". He wasn't really great in the playoffs until around 2008. He's gotten world's stronger from my vantage point, and 2007 being a murder's-row of goon teams (Calgary, SJ, Anaheim) probably provided some fortitude.

Back on topic: I was as disappointed in Hossa's no-show as anyone, but he had a pretty significant injury. Even after signing with Chicago, he sat out the first half of the season because of his shoulder surgery. The year before in Pittsburgh he was an absolute beast. Gave the Red Wings way more problems than either Crosby or Malkin. And his two-way play is marvelous to watch.

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It was an incredible opportunity to sign someone of his caliber who was willing to forgo long-term, big money contracts to take a shot at the cup while waiting out the Wing's cap situation at the time. Unfortunately, the Wings didn't jump at the chance to lock up a proven elite when they had the chance; still riding the high of Franzen's 2008 playoff performance, with a shortened regular season due to injuries always leaving a portion of his "potential" in the dark. The assumption was always "if he can play a complete season, he'll be a 40-goal scorer", so why not sign him for less than Hossa for the same projected production? The term was there to knock down the cap-hit, but it is more of a noose than a pardon.

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Its starting to be embarrasing to tell people in a hockey fan. first the busch league stuff in NYR/OTT series, then shaw elbowing smith, weber on zetterberg, and now this.

at least the guys in the PIT/Philly series seem to be just fighting and commiting only minor, questionable hits.

this other s*** is garbage.

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What's the excuse for the refs missing this call?? It's a dirty hit and of story. He better get suspended

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he left his feet but it is extremely unclear if it was before or after contact, at any rate this was a lot cleaner than neal's hits that he got only 1 game for. But I suspect he will get a game for being a repeat offender.

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Its starting to be embarrasing to tell people in a hockey fan. first the busch league stuff in NYR/OTT series, then shaw elbowing smith, weber on zetterberg, and now this.

at least the guys in the PIT/Philly series seem to be just fighting and commiting only minor, questionable hits.

this other s*** is garbage.

Not sure if I'm getting this right, but do you mean that you're embarassed to tell others that you're a hockey fan?

If that's the case - why on earth would you be embarassed?..Other than the Red Wings being on the verge of elimination - this playoffs has been pretty damn great!..The ratings are hitting all time highs.

So there's been some head hunting, and dirty play?..All the more to enjoy since it means new rivalries will be created with animosity extending beyond this season into the next (that is if there's a 2012/2013 season).

I'm no fan of seeing players getting injured, but unfortunately this is outta our hands as fans...The NHL created this problem themselves when they started to crack down on fighting, and initiated the instigator penalty in efforts to clean up the game, and bring in a larger American audience...Now we've been seeing what happens when the players don't police themselves, and the league tries - inconsistencies at their finest.

If anything - I'd be embarassed to say I was a fan of the NBA; so many things wrong with that league I don't know where to begin.

I'm damn proud to be a fan of hockey, and the NHL - by far the best game, and best league on the planet...If anyone says anything to me about it - I'll just pull their shirt over their head, and go to town on'em ;)

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If anything - I'd be embarassed to say I was a fan of the NBA; so many things wrong with that league I don't know where to begin.

The main one being that they showcase the world's most boring sport <_<

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ya i agree michael, i guess what i was just getting at was that with all the dirty play and injuries its just taking away from the integrity of the game.

it just sucks to see the best players being injured and not playing because of it. sedin, crosby, hossa, the list goes on. these are our stars and as much as i dislike some of them id like to see them playing.

its difficult to talk to a non-fan and talk about how you love the game when all this weak stuff is going on. players should police themselves. suspensions, and fines (holy s*** 2,500 max?!?!) are just a joke.

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The main one being that they showcase the world's most boring sport <_<

HAHA :thumbup:

AMAZING PLAY! He dunked over a player that can't touch him within the bounds of the rules! 2 POINTS!... 106 more to go before the final 2 minutes takes 15 minutes because my team is down by a bucket and I need to foul them every time they inbound.

ESPN will show a dozen of the same dunks and jumpers, seemingly at random since one play is as mundane as the next. Then you get to an NHL playoff game and the guy talks over 2 of 7 goals, no saves or hits, with the monotone "boom goes the dynamite" voice for 15 seconds.

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ya i agree michael, i guess what i was just getting at was that with all the dirty play and injuries its just taking away from the integrity of the game.

it just sucks to see the best players being injured and not playing because of it. sedin, crosby, hossa, the list goes on. these are our stars and as much as i dislike some of them id like to see them playing.

its difficult to talk to a non-fan and talk about how you love the game when all this weak stuff is going on. players should police themselves. suspensions, and fines (holy s*** 2,500 max?!?!) are just a joke.

I hear ya...One of my best friends is a life-long Hawks fan; yesterday afternoon while talking on the phone he went on a 5 min rant of how he cannot stand the insanity of the NHL, and how it handles fines/suspensions (he's also a fan of the Rangers)......Needless to say that same rant went on this morning - although it lasted 10 min :lol:

IMHO the NHL really screwed the pooch when it went on it's "cleaning up the league" phase, and trying to lure in the so called "casual" fan...Big mistake...First off most fans enjoy the intensity of a heated game, and if a few fights break out - even better if it's among willing combatants (now I don't want to see nothing but fights, and fights alone - that must be said, nor do I wish to see fighters taking on non-fighters - the "code" hopefully would stay intact).

Second - what we see today with cheap shots, and inconsistent rulings is once again a result of the league trying to clean up it's image; it's why a fair number of former players/coaches/gms want to see the elimination of the instigator penalty (oddly enough my Blackhawk buddy was all for the instigator years ago - now that he's "seen the light" - he too agrees that it should be removed).

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Dropping 40 goals in the regular season alone probably pushes the team to a top 2 seed. There's a reason we've been floating around 3rd and 5th since he left.

Hossa had 29 goals this season. 25 the year before (due to injuries which are common with the winger).

If you guys want to argue for Hossa, argue for his overall points. Not just his goals. He isn't guaranteed for 40 every season.

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$2,500 fine. And if Torres does anything of that nature again, the NHL will STRONGLY CONSIDER adding another $1,000 to that fine.

#ShanahanDiscipline

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HAHA :thumbup:

AMAZING PLAY! He dunked over a player that can't touch him within the bounds of the rules! 2 POINTS!... 106 more to go before the final 2 minutes takes 15 minutes because my team is down by a bucket and I need to foul them every time they inbound.

ESPN will show a dozen of the same dunks and jumpers, seemingly at random since one play is as mundane as the next. Then you get to an NHL playoff game and the guy talks over 2 of 7 goals, no saves or hits, with the monotone "boom goes the dynamite" voice for 15 seconds.

They actually spend 15 seconds of air time covering the NHL over at ESPN :blink:

Wow - since when did they get so generous?

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In the "old" League (last week), the team with the injured player would be contacted and asked if he is able to play in the next game. If the answer was "yes", a simple fine.

In the "new" League, television ratings are way up and it would affect Uncle Gary's team. That's quite a corner the League has painted themselves into.

In a related story, Kopecký...

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"Who knows," Chicago captain Jonathan Toews said. "I don't know what to expect anymore. I don't think anyone does. So we'll see, it will probably be a surprise, I guess. We've got four [referees] out there. When there's a guy getting carried off on a stretcher, you think that there might be something wrong with what happened. Especially when they're huddling around their goalie in this last game, and he keeps playing, and our guy gets three games for it. So it's pretty frustrating when you see that."

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/id/7827211/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-chicago-blackhawks-joel-quenneville-rips-officiating

Haha... Yep.

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I hope Toews remembers this when negotiations begin for the new Collective Bargaining Agreement begin. The Players need to hold the League to a new level of accountability for what is allowed to happen on the ice.

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