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#1 number9

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

http://thehockeywrit...ew-jiri-hudler/

Hopefully with his defensive side he'll be better than Hudler one day



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:19 PM

http://thehockeywrit...ew-jiri-hudler/

Hopefully with his defensive side he'll be better than Hudler one day

 

The 2 most important details in that article:

 

"he has faster wheels than Hudler" "he is very hard working"

 

Hence the upgraded version of Hudler, or Huds 2.0



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:35 PM

Isn't he a good bit heavier too?

 

Edit:  nevermind.


Edited by kipwinger, 06 February 2013 - 12:36 PM.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:36 PM

Isn't he a good bit heavier too?

 

nope, they are both listed as 5'10" 186 pounds per NHL's website



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:38 PM

I thought Brunner was the new and improved Hudler. Can we just agree that Hudler wasn't spectacular and leave it at that? Haha, poor guy.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:38 PM

I haven't seen too much of Tatar outside of his time with the Wings (and a couple GR games), but I think the only similarities between the two are they are both small forwards, and both have a shoot first mentality. Other than that, I think Tatar is an upside in just about every other facet of the game.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:53 PM

I thought Brunner was the new and improved Hudler. Can we just agree that Hudler wasn't spectacular and leave it at that? Haha, poor guy.

 

He is doing good in Calgary so far... but ya he wasn't a good fit for us. Brunner, is already eons better than Huds. He has speed, tenacity, and a bit of grit here and there. He doesn't give up on plays, and does everything he can to try to put that puck in the net. I haven't seen someone on the wings who liked scoring that much in a long time. His face just lights up even if its a crappy tip in, he loves to score. He works his butt off every shift, and in my mind has been one of the best players on the wings this year right behind Z. The only quality he has similar with Hudler is the size, but Hudler would never dare drive to the net the way Brunner does. Brunner takes the puck and makes his way right into the low slot like it was no big deal. Hudler just cherry picked and waited for pucks to hit his stick on open net chances.



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

Tatar is better with the puck too. Hudler has a tendancy to throw it away and turn it over a lot. Tatar looks for his linemates and then hustles to an open spot to get the puck back for a scoring chance. He was one of the bright spots in an otherwise terrible game against the Flames. Keep him up, dump Cleary and bring up Nyquist to complement him as a playmaker and once Helm is healthy, there's your 3rd scoring line. As for the 4th line, Babcock can play whoever "dictates" their playing time, which will likely be a rotation of Eaves, Tootoo, Abs and Miller. And Sammy when he's not broken. You don't need to re-tool the offense when it's already at your finger tips.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:08 PM

i didnt think tatar did much of anything last night


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

i didnt think tatar did much of anything last night

I agree.  But nobody else did anything either.  The thing I liked about Tatar is he was fast and physical.  He threw the body and was able to forecheck.  That is somebody we need on the third line.  



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:56 PM

Tatar didn't score, nor did he singlehandedly earn the Wings scoring opportunities, but that's not his role (just yet).
What Tatar did do well was demonstrate an excellent hockey sense in predicting where the puck was going, and getting himself to that spot, where he ended up with the puck on his stick. There was an excellent example of this in the third, when our defenseman (can't remember who) pinced down to the half boards to dump the puck back in deep. Instead of hanging out at the faceoff dot for a pass or dropping behind the net to pick up the dump in, Tatar went to the blue line, and sure enough, the puck was immediately turned over and shot up the boards directly to him, where he was able to keep the attack alive.
He was also tenacious on the puck. Tatar seemed to chase the puck down wherever it went in the offensive zone, instead of waiting around for a teammate to do all the work. Also, despite his small frame, he was mucking it up in the corners and along the boards and did not seem the least bit phased. To be honest (and I'll likely get flamed for this), he reminded me of Darren Helm, at least with how passionately and intent he was playing. He doesn't have the crash that Helm has, but at least last night he had Helm's heart.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

I agree.  But nobody else did anything either.  The thing I liked about Tatar is he was fast and physical.  He threw the body and was able to forecheck.  That is somebody we need on the third line.  

I think you just contradicted yourself if you agree that he didn't do much last night.

 

Considering he was playing with a couple of guys who will generate no offense, I think Tatar looked pretty good last night. Skated hard/fast, backchecked, forechecked. Showed some very simple glimpses of being able to create if he is given a little bit of space and time.

 

But again, you could only see so much with who he was playing with....



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

I think you just contradicted yourself if you agree that he didn't do much last night.

 

Considering he was playing with a couple of guys who will generate no offense, I think Tatar looked pretty good last night. Skated hard/fast, backchecked, forechecked. Showed some very simple glimpses of being able to create if he is given a little bit of space and time.

 

But again, you could only see so much with who he was playing with....

No, I didn't.  I guess I meant he didn't do anything to produce points.  But I thought he brought an element to the game that this team needs right now.



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:59 PM

i didnt think tatar did much of anything last night

Nothing spectacular maybe, but if you watched him closely you could see he played well in all 3 zones. 

 

He kept it simple most of the time, but also had a couple of instances where he showed some of his skill. 

 

All things considered he had a solid game and if he gets stay up he'll no doubt be able to build on it. He looks NHL ready to me, surprisingly maybe even moreso than Nyquist. 



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

Tatar worked hard out there, drew a penalty, cycled decently. IMO he is a huge upgrade on Hudler because he has puck winning skills rather than needing more hard working players to give him the puck. Kid needs more than 1 game to show he is more than huds.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:11 PM

Tatar worked hard out there, drew a penalty, cycled decently. IMO he is a huge upgrade on Hudler because he has puck winning skills rather than needing more hard working players to give him the puck. Kid needs more than 1 game to show he is more than huds.

 

This is what I took away from last night as well.  Well worded.



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

Look out HOF, here comes tatar! right........ Just for reference, tatar's best season in GR was 58 points. Emmerton......52. Nothing to see here, please move along......



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:41 PM

Look out HOF, here comes tatar! right........ Just for reference, tatar's best season in GR was 58 points. Emmerton......52. Nothing to see here, please move along......


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:47 PM

Emdog is a regular. Dont knock him.

The idea that tatar, nyquist, andersson, abby, helm, emmerton, janorack (spelling) etc... are going to lead us to the SC is laughable. Worst part, the joke is on us......



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:51 PM

The idea that tatar, nyquist, andersson, abby, helm, emmerton, janorack (spelling) etc... are going to lead us to the SC is laughable. Worst part, the joke is on us......


You're right. We have NOTHING in our farm system at Forward. Its horrible. Im glad we got big, good skating, good puck moving defensemen that are young, but our all umpa lumpa forward team that cant score is super depressing.





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